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post #31 of 10937
Which Fry's in the bay area?? I might head out there after work...

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Originally Posted by suren20 View Post

Yeah....what's the EPP

I went by Fry's (SF bay area) saw the TH58pz700u, man it looks good.....now the price tag is pretty high. now I'm back to square one......weather to go for the 50" 720p or the 58" 1080P.
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post #32 of 10937
This place claims to have the TH-50PZ700U and TH-58PZ700U in stock...

fotoconnection.com
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post #34 of 10937
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Originally Posted by jakuta View Post

This place (foto connection) claims to have the TH-50PZ700U and TH-58PZ700U in stock...

It's common practice among scammy e-tailers to advertise something that has not even been released yet to be "In Stock" when in fact they're not. The ResellerRatings low score speaks volumes. I also notice lots of fake planted reviews from "Satisfied" customers mixed amongst the tons of horror stories from irate customers.
post #35 of 10937
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Originally Posted by GaryZ06 View Post

What is EPP ? Thanks

EPP stands for Employee Purchase Program. The program is offered to various companies, and allow their employees to purchase products directly from Panasonic at a discounted price.
post #36 of 10937
Check this out before you do business with fotoconnection!

http://www.newyork.bbb.org/reports/b...age=1&id=79450
post #37 of 10937
Anyone know what are the diferences between 50pz700u and the 50pz750u?
post #38 of 10937
First off, this looks like a fantastic set. I'm looking forward to making it the centerpiece of a great system.
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Lets see some pictures!

Yes!!! Pics or STFU!!!
post #40 of 10937
Never mind ! I stopped at the Fremont Fry's, and there it was. It was sitting with no markings whatsoever. My guess is they just put it up.

Initial impressions -

Resolution: 1080p looked good. They had a samsung blu ray hooked up which was playing Superman Returns. I'm not sure if the movie is 1080p, but it looked great even as close as 3 feet.

Contrast: Looked fine to me, although there was some black crush I thought. I put it into Standard mode from Vivid, which helped. Perhaps Cinema mode, or User mode will help more.

Colors: Very smooth. Skin tones looked great. Processing had a very film like look.

Overall, it looked fine. I was impressed, but not particularly blown away. Perhaps I was expecting too much. Please take this all with a big grain of salt, since I am by no means an experienced / skilled videophile. Hopefully, others will have more to add soon.


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Which Fry's in the bay area?? I might head out there after work...
post #41 of 10937
I'm thinking of getting a Sammy LCD T4665F or the Panni 50pz700. I saw the first one at UE connected to some 1080p content that showed artifact noise created I think by the splitters they have...anyhow it is a pretty nice set with bunch of extra features. I couldn't find the Panny but I saw one from last year and it looked great so I my expectations for the pz700u are high. Then I saw the Pioneer Pro-FHD1 connected to a BR player and I was like...no wonder a tuner and speaker "less" set is as high as 6k. Stunning!!! Then I saw HDguru
review of the 50pz750u and a comparision to the Pro-FHD1 with the panni being declared the winner.......I just can't believe it ...for less than 4k and all the features that will have........any thoughts?
post #42 of 10937
Can these Panasonic screens display a 24 fps signal from Blu Ray/HD DVD's correctly?
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No they cannot display 24 fps. It is still unknown whether the Panasonic's can even accept 24 Hz and convert it to 60 Hz. The manual has no info about 24 only 1080P60.
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No they cannot display 24 fps. It is still unknown whether the Panasonic's can even accept 24 Hz and convert it to 60 Hz. The manual has no info about 24 only 1080P60.

Thanks for the info. So when you connect a Blu Ray/HD DVD source to it that can output 24 fps - what would happen - you get "Judder"

Sorry I'm new to all this - have tried doing research but it is quite a difficult area to understand!

If you were to buy a current Blu Ray/HD DVD player that does output 60 HZ and you watch a 24 fps decoded movie - what would happen?
post #45 of 10937
24 fps and 24 Hz is the same. As 60 fps and 60 Hz. So I don't know what would happen. My assumption is you cannot view it. You need a tv to support it like the Pioneers, the 720p TV's will accept it then convert it to 1366 x 768 60 Hz. Usually, the judder occurs between two components that support the resolution , but have a handshake issue.
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If you were to buy a current Blu Ray/HD DVD player that does output 60 HZ and you watch a 24 fps decoded movie - what would happen?

If the Players output is 60fps it will make the 2:3 pull-down on his own. So your Pana will just take the 60fps and display it. The situation is a little different with the Pio 6 & 7G. At least in Europe they did only accepted 1080p with 24fps. So if your player only outputs 1080p/60fps the Screen was black. Of course you you change it to 720p where the Pio accepted both 24/60fps (you could even do a 3:3 back pull-down here). Should have been the same with the US models.
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Did anyone tryed the playstation 3 on it ? is it ok or does this plasma mark ?
does anyone got some pics of this screen ?

thanks
post #48 of 10937
I have used my panny 9UK pasma with 360, ps3, and my computer for very long hours and never have had burnin....todays plasmas dont burn like old days. No different than the crts ith atari's hooked them. Just dont freeze the screen and go shopping for hours on end and you'll be fine.
post #49 of 10937
Pulled the triggger today....will be delivered on monday. BB didnt match visualapex.com price but they came close enough. 50pz700u in da house!
post #50 of 10937
epp= EMPLOYEE PURCHSE PLAN
post #51 of 10937
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Originally Posted by scsnospam View Post

Which Fry's in the bay area?? I might head out there after work...

I saw it too at Frys in Palo Alto. Looked good, although I saw some micro blocking in fast moving scenes. Then I checked and I noticed it on all the TVs that was connected to the same source.
It's priced at 1k hight than Cleveland Plasma price. The depth is a little more than I expected(5.4").
Hope 750 is little slimmer.
post #52 of 10937
700 vs 750= plain Jane vs Gizmos ??
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Thread Starter 
I'm hoping the greyscale is a touch better on the 750u, as this black crush is a bit LCD-ish.
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I am new to HDTV - today is my first day.

Having a heavy background in photography, I loathed the picture quality in almost all the floor models HDTVs I viewed - so expensive and so "not there" in image quality. The lack of a "clean" image in the plasma's and the pixelization/compression interaction in the LCD's combined with those high prices made me want to throw up. Last year, when I was in the Sony building in Tokyo (Ginza), I saw the first 50+ inch 1080p Bravas and thought we might be making some progress finally.

Just recently, I noticed prices fell through the floor ($500 in one week), so I went looking around. Some of the 1080i's are dirt cheap in comparison to what they had been selling. I noticed recent discussions on a 1080p Panasonic 50" Plasma. It seemed to be something I should check out. Compared to the 2006 models, it's 25% brighter, 2x more pixels (1920 wide), energy star, anti-glare, QAM tuner for cable.

Nobody had them in stock. But I got lucky at our nearby, non-glamorous humble department store at the "teenager hangout" mall. They just received a 1080p TH-50PZ700U, but it was to be the floor model. I wanted to see it on display, but if they opened it up and displayed it, the store mgr would not want to sell. We agreed for my sales rep to sell it to me "by accident", but this meant we could not open it up and see it in the store and tip off his manager. I decided to take a chance and purchase it after negotiating a discount similar to the best online/delivered rates. His sales manager actually signed off on the discount without knowing it's the destined floor model. I loaded it and left the store premises before the boss could figure out what just happened, like I can't wait to see Casino Royale or any other films with chase scenes like this. But, I'm sending that sales rep a fruitcake.

At home, I sat it up front of my fireplace and went to work.

I hooked it up to SD Cable. Oh my! It looks very good, that horrible analog snowy signal never looked so good! CNN, Fox, MSNBC might worth watching now, even with endless re-runs of Paris-goes-to-jail, not to mention "24" action scenes (but not the storyline.)

I played VHS (no high Def). Woooah Nelly! Even better. All my wife's exercise video's I never watched - now I just want to jump and shout ! I think I don't need to spend any more money on anything else now - I am happy as is and I'll loose weight. Who needs more than this?

......but I needed to try my older DVD player. I hooked it up, carefully. S-Video cable, interlaced. I switched it on. .........Shazaaaam! I called my family, neighbors, friends, old school buddies, Aunt Norma wake-the-kids! This was so good! When I got close, I saw a few compresion artifacts, like poor JPG photo's with speckles around small objects, but from 5 or more feet back, I can't see 'em.

.......wait, my DVD is progressive scan - I've never used that feature on my old 32" CRT. I hooked up the component cables, made sure I made all the micro adjustments on the DVD player to optimize it to Plasma, aspect ratios, blacks, etc. When I felt safe, I flipped the input over to Component 1 input. OMG! (Jaw dropping twice, speechless - wish they had this motion icon). Now, this is so good, I'm calling my local newspaper, TV stations, The History Channel, and internet forums like this one. This image is like constant moving artwork and "we are not worthy!" I really have a hard time seeing any defects in 480p. For audio, I have it hooked up to a properly powered set of 901's as the front speakers. Finally, a big quality picture that goes with the big quality sound! And I'm just watching Chocolat! It's film theatre in my opinion. Okay, I did see some Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon scenes for motion and really noticed both the smooth motions and the quality in all the dark shadows which I like very much.

This is the big cigar I've desired, an artwork machine, and I have not even seen a 1080i video image on it yet, let alone a 1080p, so 2 more levels of "shock and awe" to go. Seriously, I think the large number of pixels is really helping it display all the older formats so well and smoothly. I'm used to SD Cable snow blizzards, so anything is a giant leap for mankind for me, but this is much better than what I've seen displayed in stores.

In my sleepy, backward small town on the central California coast (I may be the first one to have an HDTV here let alone a recent model PC), there is no sign of Blue Ray players for sale. I'll need to drive to the Bay area tomorrow to get a Blue Ray to see 1080p, but in the meantime, I am getting phone numbers for the White House, Presidential Candidates, Foreign Heads of State, Ben Bernanke, and even the still almighty Alan Greenspan - this thing may be so good, so influential *others will no doubt follow* with spinoffs and related infrastructure, that this could all just change the world economy!

-Crackers
post #55 of 10937
Wow, great first post! Almost enough to make me go out and buy one of these 50" 700s, sight unseen! (But I can wait a month, since the room where it's going to end up isn't finished yet.) I really can't wait to get my little dedicated home theater finished.
post #56 of 10937
Anyone has a link to donwload the manual for 50pz700u? I poked around on panasonic.com, but could not find it and it does not come up in the search. EDIT: found it! Just wanted to see where the mounting holes are located relative to the top and the bottom of the TV. Anyone could measure that for me? I would really appreciate it!

This TV has weird profile. It's mostly slim, except the bottom portion which is quite deep. Because of that heavy bottom, wall mounting will likely require use of some pretty long spacers. Does this TV come with wall mounting spacers? I wonder why the bottom has to be so deep. Which specific modules does it house?

Got this set at BB yesterday after returning my two weeks old 50px75U, which went kaput (started dislpaying huge amount of noise and shifted picture towards red spectrum, on all inputs, after one week of use). Got BB to price match 50pz700u to EPP price, so I am not too dissapointed now The 50pz700u is on order, so I will have to wait until the 10th to pick it up.
post #57 of 10937
I went through that manual and see no indication of the version of HDMI used. I know some have said it's 1.3, but it's odd they don't mention it.
post #58 of 10937
Hi All... (Nice first post, Crackers - can't follow that...)

I'll be ordering / purchasing a 58" 700 or 750 soon, but I need some help to choose and purchase wisely. This will be my first flatscreen of ANY technology, I've just been waiting on the right time - device availability and price point.

In exchange, I commit to bring value to this thread by researching, testing, adjusting and reporting as requested by y'all. I appreciate what I've read from y'all and the existence of this forum and thread.

1. After hours reviewing threads in this forum, I can only surmise that the 750 only has the benefit of being able to be better "calibrated" for color and PQ. I'm tempted to wait on it, but don't know if the "value" is there - the money isn't the issue...I want the best overall (value and PQ), but I don't to waste time or money.

2. I haven't found any inroads to the panny EPP site to show me if I have any opportunities to take advantage of the EPP pricing. Can you provide a link to the EPP site, EPP pricing, or a link to a list of EPP "qualified" companies I might qualify to "come under"?

3. Lastly (for now), what is the Avia disk (software...), should I plan to get and use it (for better PQ), and if so, how and where do I do so?

I'm fully capable of doing calibrations, soft and firmware upgrades, and other technical stuff, following procedures to an end, etc. Looking forward to getting the absolute most out of whatever I purchase, and the associated "playing" hardware.

As soon as I can (intelligently) choose between the 700 and 750, and identify the least expensive (& quickest) path to a purchase, I'll "Git-r dun".

Thanks To All, John
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Originally Posted by John P Carroll View Post

Hi All... (Nice first post, Crackers - can't follow that...)

I'll be ordering / purchasing a 58" 700 or 750 soon, but I need some help to choose and purchase wisely. This will be my first flatscreen of ANY technology, I've just been waiting on the right time - device availability and price point.

In exchange, I commit to bring value to this thread by researching, testing, adjusting and reporting as requested by y'all. I appreciate what I've read from y'all and the existence of this forum and thread.

1. After hours reviewing threads in this forum, I can only surmise that the 750 only has the benefit of being able to be better "calibrated" for color and PQ. I'm tempted to wait on it, but don't know if the "value" is there - the money isn't the issue...I want the best overall (value and PQ), but I don't to waste time or money.

2. I haven't found any inroads to the panny EPP site to show me if I have any opportunities to take advantage of the EPP pricing. Can you provide a link to the EPP site, EPP pricing, or a link to a list of EPP "qualified" companies I might qualify to "come under"?

3. Lastly (for now), what is the Avia disk (software...), should I plan to get and use it (for better PQ), and if so, how and where do I do so?

I'm fully capable of doing calibrations, soft and firmware upgrades, and other technical stuff, following procedures to an end, etc. Looking forward to getting the absolute most out of whatever I purchase, and the associated "playing" hardware.

As soon as I can (intelligently) choose between the 700 and 750, and identify the least expensive (& quickest) path to a purchase, I'll "Git-r dun".

Thanks To All, John

The report from CES was that the 750 had better skin tones/rendering than the 700. I believe the poster did say that the 750 had been calibrated?

bob
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The report from CES was that the 750 had better skin tones/rendering than the 700. I believe the poster did say that the 750 had been calibrated?

bob

Afirm...just not sure if the difference will be worth it. Waiting on a "side by side" report like the rest of us...

Wondering if the 700 will be able to acheive the same quality through tweaks or Avia adjustments. Tnx, jc
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