Panasonic 42pz700, 50pz700u, 50pz750u, 58pz700u and 58pz750u Owners Thread! - Page 170

Originally Posted by Aaron1017

I am about to buy the 42PZ700U and it will be used primarily for gaming.

Is there a delay/lag issue with this TV at all, concerning inputs? I cannot deal with ANY delay/lag what-so-ever.

Originally Posted by Christopher_H

I'm right there with you. I went to Best Buy and brought my own PS2 and Guitar Hero to test on the 50PZ700U. To me this was the one game where lag would be inexcusable. I was still able to play Guitar Hero without any problems although I could see a slight delay. I just ordered the 42PZ700U and it should be in my hands on monday.

Originally Posted by Rob_G

Sadly, I just finished boxing mine up to return tomorrow. The picture was good, but not as good as the sony bravia lcd (in my opinion). There was also noticeable noise on component input that was not there with the bravia as well. I tried both the xbox360 and my cable box and both showed noise. Where I was impressed was watching SD content which looked much better than any lcd. However the kicker for me was the fair at best display from PC (even on hdmi) and the green ghosting. I think for the requirements I want that LCD is still my best option.

Oh well

Rob

Originally Posted by gamelover360

After much foolin around I have found what I think is the ideal servic menu settings to maximize black level while retaining shadow detail. I found that by adjusting "sub-bright" AND "all cut" in the service menu plus the brightness setting in the normal picture settings, I was able to suck a lot of the white out of the blacks while not crushing black detail. I will post all the exact settings later tonite. Try them (write your s down first!!!!) and see if you are happy...

...The blacks are now closer to flat blacks without a noticeable white or bluish hue. Of course the blacks will not blend into the jet black bezel, but they are a very comendable dark shade of black. Not true black of course, but a darker shade. I realize that is an unrealistic wish. Even the Pioneer Kuro doesn't blend in. All flat panels have a soft whitish glow to their blacks (to some degree or another). But I have it very much minimized.

I am extremely happy with my tweaking, because it has paid off. The picture looks phenomenal out the box, but now I feel that I am "pulling" the best black performance out of the set possible.

Originally Posted by Macfan424

There are several possible explanations for this. Panasonic could easily reset the timer at the factory. More likely, IMO, is that they "age" the panels before the set is assembled.

Panagurl isn't known for passing along bad information.

Originally Posted by explorher64

I was just wondering the same thing. If they didn't do the break-in at the factory, then just reset the counter to "0".

I'm sure there are a lot of people that buy these tv's on a whim and don't do as much research as we do here, and I can imagine the complaints they would get from someone buying a "new" tv with 100-hours of use.

BTW...I just ordered the 50PZ700U yesterday through my EPP, now the waiting game begins...

Originally Posted by gamelover360

After much foolin around I have found what I think is the ideal servic menu settings to maximize black level while retaining shadow detail.

I will post the settings later when I get home.

Originally Posted by explorher64

And speaking of (yes, I'm quoting myself), without searching through 170 pages, is there somewhere (that I'm overlooking) where owners have posted their settings?

I know everyone has a different preference, but I like to see others settings to get a good POV compared to mine.

Thanks

Originally Posted by apmonte

Agree - I'd like to see your original settings (from->to) as well.

Thanks,

Aaron

Originally Posted by jsonmc

Can someone please tell me what offers a better picture over 1080p signal.. a 42" screen or 50? I am currently trying to decide between the TH-42PZ00U and the TH-50PZ00U and am getting some conflicting info from BestBuy store employees.
Also, while I'm asking is one better than the other over standard 720/1080i? I have the room for any screen up to 60" funds are a different story..
I'm sorry if this question has been asked before, I'm sure it has and probably somewhere is this thread but I have limited internet time (home with 3 girls one 2 and two 8 months) and this thread is just crazy big!
Thanks.

Originally Posted by mzbagel

Here's a quick shot of Marus from the GOW commercial. This is 1080i being fed via component. It's a little blurry but looks great in real life.

Here's the scene with the broken statue in the opening of the commercial. Again, somewhat blurry but that's my shaky hand with the camera in a dark room

Originally Posted by dalancroft

José de Jesús Vallejo, man...and everyone pronounces it "Vuh-LAY-O" instead of "Vuh-LAY-Ho," which I find a bit weird.

Originally Posted by BodegaBay

Funny, I've always pronouned it with the "H." Kinda strange hearing it with the "O.".

Originally Posted by He Save Dave

Does anyone have any pics of gaming on this set? I'd love to see some.

Originally Posted by Hal900x

My TH-50PZ750U is en route as I write this!

Originally Posted by bbben

What does some of you experts think?

Originally Posted by apmonte

Agree - I'd like to see your original settings (from->to) as well.

Thanks,

Aaron

Originally Posted by ajs800

sorry to hear the panny didn't work out for you. unless you're comparing it to the XBR4/5, there's no comparison, IMO. My neighbor has the xbr4 and other than the clouding issue it's a nice set. Best of luck!

Originally Posted by He Save Dave

Does anyone have any pics of gaming on this set? I'd love to see some.

Originally Posted by He Save Dave

That is so awesome! Thanks Chris! Looks great!

Originally Posted by gamelover360

Here they are. After hours I think I have it perfected....... I used the 24 steps of grey I got from the 81 series LCD thread (saved it on a thumb drive), as well as BR disc material dark stuff.

Picture settings:

Picture Mode: Custom
Picture: 30 (26-30 is doable, but I like 30)
Brightness: 0
Colr: -6
Tint: -2
Sharpness: -25
Colro Temp: warm
Black Level: light
HD: Size 2


Service menu settings (select custom by hitting 9 on the remote (you will se the instructions for that in the service menu) so you can see how the custom picture will change since you will be viewing in custom mode):

Contrast: 00
Sub Brt: 80A
Tint: FF
Color: 37
All Drv: E5
All Cut: 92



Thats it. If I didn't say it don't touch it in the service menu. Just the things I mentioned. There are more adjustments like B-cut, G-cut, etc. But by changing the "All drv" and "All Cut" they all change in concert. Also, write down all your values before you adjust them. It is on you if you choose to enter the service menu. It is basically fine adjustments that the average Joe doesn't care/know enough to use. Not really scary if your careful.

I had the set calibrated, but wasn't happy with the black level after some time with the new calibrated set. i decided that I really don't care about what the numbers say on equipment (which can be flawed as well), I wanted real world performance. So I used the service menu and after much effort I think I have it performing optimally in trems of maximum black level without sacrificing detail.

If you try these settings see what you think.

First adjust the basic picture menu settings. Then find a good scene where there is a black suit with plenty of wrinkles in it. Pause it, then pull up the service menu. Make the adjustments I noted and watch things improve!


Happy tweaking!

Post results.

Originally Posted by eridarda

i`ll wait for the lasertv. Wij throw away many dollars when a new, better and cheaper technology is coming. They say it`ll arrive at christmas or at the beginning next year.

Originally Posted by RandyWalters

OK you've pasted the same message in 5 different threads so far. If we wanted a Rear Projection TV we'd have one. Laser, DLP, LCD, whatever it's still an RPTV and that's not what we like or want. If you want it that's fine, but go tell your homies in the RPTV forum.

Oh and that webpage you linked is the worst webpage i've seen since 1996