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post #9541 of 10937
Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD? Forgive me for asking this, please don't bash me too much, it's just that 300 pages is way too much to read. Thanks
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post #9542 of 10937
Google Plasma, LCD, DLP and you will find plenty of comparisons.
post #9543 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Tayja View Post

Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD? Forgive me for asking this, please don't bash me too much, it's just that 300 pages is way too much to read. Thanks

You may find some other forums here comparing LCD and Plasma.



-Crackers
post #9544 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Tayja View Post

Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD? Forgive me for asking this, please don't bash me too much, it's just that 300 pages is way too much to read. Thanks

Better blacks, and more realistic colors. Also, better viewing angles.

However, if you have a very bright room, you might want to consider an LCD, which seem to do better. I have a bright room, but am able to control it with verticle blinds, so I bought the plasma, and haven't regretted it for a moment.

Good luck with your choice.
post #9545 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Crackers View Post

I was forced to build one of these by my w.i.f.e. to hold the 50PZ700U. Be glad.

-Crackers



Beautiful job!
post #9546 of 10937
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Originally Posted by FAiello View Post

Nice but not deep enough for most A/V Receivers with all of the cables in the back. This is why I went with BDI they are designed for all the components even the wood ones and some have sliding doors in the back for easy access to the cables.


Plenty deep. I've still got about 3-4 inches of clearance behind my reciever, DVR and Blu ray. But, it's a matter of taste.
post #9547 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Tayja View Post

Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD?

There's pros and cons to each, although you're comparing a newer generation LCD to last year's plasma technology (50,000:1 contrast vs. 5,000:1). Also keep in mind that unless you plan on buying a separate surround sound system, the LCD only has 2 speakers whereas the Panny 700 has 4 speakers and actually sounds quite good on it's own. Both should be available (although Panny is quickly being bought up) at Best Buy to compare the picture quality of each.

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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Plenty deep. I've still got about 3-4 inches of clearance behind my reciever, DVR and Blu ray. But, it's a matter of taste.

I'd be a little concerned of heat buildup with something fully enclosed like that as some components can generate alot of heat requiring 3-4" room on all sides. I definitely would not place a PS3 inside that cabinet.
post #9548 of 10937
Hey guys, I'm about to pull the plug on a Panny TH-42PZ700U... I've seen some really favorable reviews and general love for this series... I will be using the TV primarily for gaming and the occasional BD movie. I had some questions regarding the TV:

- How well will PS3 720p games scale to 1080p?

I currently have a Vizio VU42LF (no I'm not comparing a Vizio to a Panny plasma) that does a solid job of scaling the game but leaves the text looking rather blurry, especially the pop-up messages that pop up on the XMB while In Game.

- What do you guys think of the set for gaming? I understand the premise of the first 100 hours and setting everything to 0 before calibration, etc.

- I plan on using the Break In DVD download to break in the plasma when I'm not gaming on it. Any thoughts on this?

I'm really excited right now guys... can't wait to set this thing up once I get it!
post #9549 of 10937
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Originally Posted by h3ro View Post

- How well will PS3 720p games scale to 1080p?

- What do you guys think of the set for gaming? I understand the premise of the first 100 hours and setting everything to 0 before calibration, etc.

- I plan on using the Break In DVD download to break in the plasma when I'm not gaming on it. Any thoughts on this?

The PS3 does an excellent job of scaling 720p games and the Panny in general is an excellent set for gaming. I did not use the break-in DVD, rather just reducing PICTURE to 0 and watched TV 3-4 hours/day. Although I started out playing games from the beginning, I quickly found I needed a higher picture setting and so used VIVID during my gaming sessions. No problems with IR were ever noticed even well before 100 hours of break-in. An alternative to using the Break-in DVD is just leaving the TV on DiscoveryHD.
post #9550 of 10937
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

There's pros and cons to each, although you're comparing a newer generation LCD to last year's plasma technology (50,000:1 contrast vs. 5,000:1). Also keep in mind that unless you plan on buying a separate surround sound system, the LCD only has 2 speakers whereas the Panny 700 has 4 speakers and actually sounds quite good on it's own. Both should be available (although Panny is quickly being bought up) at Best Buy to compare the picture quality of each.



I'd be a little concerned of heat buildup with something fully enclosed like that as some components can generate alot of heat requiring 3-4" room on all sides. I definitely would not place a PS3 inside that cabinet.

The component shelf is pretty wide. I actually have enough room on each shelf ro put two componants side by side, but I don't, so I'd say I have a good 6-7" on each side of the unit.
post #9551 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Tayja View Post

Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD? Forgive me for asking this, please don't bash me too much, it's just that 300 pages is way too much to read. Thanks

6th Ave has the 58PZ700U on sale for $2,995.
post #9552 of 10937
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

There's pros and cons to each, although you're comparing a newer generation LCD to last year's plasma technology (50,000:1 contrast vs. 5,000:1).

My mistake. In advertising contrast ratio, Samsung uses "dynamic" contrast for that particular LCD which is 50,000:1. Whereas in comparison, the "dynamic" contrast ratio of the new 800/850 series is 1,000,000:1, keeping in mind of course that contrast ratios between mfr's is not a standard comparison. In the end it's going to be a personal choice between prefering the "pop" of the LCD to the more realistic picture of the plasma.
post #9553 of 10937
Originally Posted by citman
"Hardwood floors in a red oak type color, big wall with fireplace that is all oak paneled, dark brown (espresso) leather furniture. Really need to take some pics of the room I guess and post huh?

the w.i.f.e. wants a "real" piece of furniture for the room, no Bush prefab crap (although I like my old bush desk) and she prefers wood as opposed to metal/glass contemporary looks.

I got a TON of links from that other thread. Off to surf."



i went with this for my 58. it looks very nice. i mounted the tv on the wall just above it. http://www.ashleyfurniture.com/Showr...atPageNumber=4
post #9554 of 10937
I'm getting my 50" Panny mounted today! It will be on a regular wall. I'll take a pic and post it when it's all done.
post #9555 of 10937
I have a tale to tell, but I'll make it brief.
My TH-50PX60U 50 inch Panasonic Plasma stopped working about 3 months out of warranty. The power light would flash 7 times. I called Panasonic, no luck there. I went to one of their recommended service providers, and they said multiple boards had tested bad. They quoted me a price to fix it ABOVE what I paid for it. I asked them for the esitmate in writting, and paid them for the info, but I did not want to pay that much.
I found a Panasonic technical training manual on-line (I haven't been able to find it since), pulled the back and replaced 5 boards ($600). Upon starting it up, I discovered lines across the top. Eratic and oddly spaced. I undid the ribbon connectors that went from the SC and SU boards to the plasma screen, and made sure they were seated properly. And, lo and behold, the TV was working almost completely. I say almost because it still has one tiny problem, and, I can't find a post that says anything like this.
A single black bar, one inch from left to right, and halfway down the screen, in the right hand upper corner. It's more of an annoyance than anything.
I redid the ribbon connectors on the left side (in the back), and I also redid the ribbon connectors on the right. No change.
I can't find a way to eliminate it. I checked many of the connections I touched, but no change. It does not change it's size, shape, or location when changing the Aspect ratio.
Can anyone tell me what this is?
post #9556 of 10937
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Originally Posted by kevin6430 View Post

Can anyone tell me what this is?

Nope. But what a great example for purchasing an Extended Warranty! No matter what happens over the next 4 years ... strange bars ... bad pixels ... it will either be repaired or replaced .. all for a few hundred $$$. Talk about peace of mind!
post #9557 of 10937
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Nope. But what a great example for purchasing an Extended Warranty! No matter what happens over the next 4 years ... strange bars ... bad pixels ... it will either be repaired or replaced .. all for a few hundred $$$. Talk about peace of mind!

Well that really helps him out, doesn't it?

Are you sure it is not a grounding problem?
post #9558 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

I heard the more expensive cables have built in air fresheners.

Really?
post #9559 of 10937
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Really?

That's strange, I can't seem to find that post in this thread. I'm sure you feel better about your extended warranty expense though.
post #9560 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

I'm sure you feel better about your extended warranty expense though.

You bet! At only 15 cents a day it's the smartest purchase I've made next to the Panny itself.
post #9561 of 10937
TV is mounted! It took the guys about 4 hrs cause they ran across a crossbeam stud in the wall and it took much longer to work around it. But all is well. The mount I purchased is a Peerless SD-660 tilt.

post #9562 of 10937
So the tech showed up today to fix my TH-42PZ700U, ended up replacing some circuit board, claiming the 7 blinking lights was not a power supply issue (though it seems others on this board said they had the PS replaced). Even showed me a service memo from Panasonic stating what to do. The new board didn't help and the thing still shut off after 30 minutes, now they want to give me a loaner so they can take the TV back and figure out what's wrong. Now I'm starting think it would have just been easier to take the thing back to Costco and get a new one.

I'm going out of town so I don't really mind them taking the TV I just hope they can service it properly.

My splendid luck with recent electronics purchases continues, sigh...
post #9563 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Crackers View Post

I was forced to build one of these by my w.i.f.e. to hold the 50PZ700U. Be glad.

-Crackers


That backlight makes that setup look out of this world. nice
post #9564 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Tayja View Post

Forgive me for asking this, but I am considering buying the Samsung LN52A650 LCD.
My neighbor just bought the Panny 58pz700u. What made you all decide to buy Plasma over LCD? Forgive me for asking this, please don't bash me too much, it's just that 300 pages is way too much to read. Thanks

SD content looks about 1000% better. (That is not a typo)

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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

Better blacks, and more realistic colors. Also, better viewing angles.

However, if you have a very bright room, you might want to consider an LCD, which seem to do better. I have a bright room, but am able to control it with verticle blinds, so I bought the plasma, and haven't regretted it for a moment.

Good luck with your choice.

Even in a bright room I would rather have a plasma display What is the point in seeing a picture when the quality is not up to par, espesially SD content.
post #9565 of 10937
I just ordered a TH-42PZ700U from the costco.com deal which is going on right now...

It looks like I will need a DVI -> HDMI adapter to connect PC to HDMI because the PC input only supports 1280x1024, which is stupid but oh well.

Also I will need an HDMI cable for my 360 because the component video input only supports 720p/1080i and not 1080p.

I'll connect the Comcast DVR of Suck and the PS2 via the component video inputs I guess and save the 2 HDMI inputs for the PC and 360.

Sorry I only read up to page 20 of this 300+ page thread before giving up, but am I correct in this?
post #9566 of 10937
After much research, and considering the great reviews on this forum, I took advantage of the Costco deal today and brought home my 42PZ700U today. Dish Network will be out next Tuesday, 4-1-08, to install my HD-DVR.

I had thought about leaving everything boxed up until then. Would it be worth my while to go ahead and hook it up to my non-HD receiver now. I'm not sure about the tv upscaling any of the content it would get from my current receiver.

Your thoughts appreciated.
post #9567 of 10937
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Originally Posted by raleighfirewall View Post

After much research, and considering the great reviews on this forum, I took advantage of the Costco deal today and brought home my 42PZ700U today. Dish Network will be out next Tuesday, 4-1-08, to install my HD-DVR.

I had thought about leaving everything boxed up until then. Would it be worth my while to go ahead and hook it up to my non-HD receiver now. I'm not sure about the tv upscaling any of the content it would get from my current receiver.

Your thoughts appreciated.

That's way too long to wait. Hook it up and try out a DVD.
post #9568 of 10937
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Originally Posted by raleighfirewall View Post

I'm not sure about the tv upscaling any of the content it would get from my current receiver.

Keep in mind the majority of your programming (depending on what you watch of course) through your HD DVR is still going to be SD so you might as well get it out of the box and start getting to know the new set as well as make sure it's working okay considering the recent posts. Also, after letting the Panny do the upscaling for a week, you'll be better able to judge which does a better job, the Panny or the HD DVR.
post #9569 of 10937
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Originally Posted by Faceless Rebel View Post

It looks like I will need a DVI -> HDMI adapter to connect PC to HDMI because the PC input only supports 1280x1024, which is stupid but oh well.

Also I will need an HDMI cable for my 360 because the component video input only supports 720p/1080i and not 1080p.

I'll connect the Comcast DVR of Suck and the PS2 via the component video inputs I guess and save the 2 HDMI inputs for the PC and 360.

You might also want to consider a 3 or 4 port HDMI switch which will allow you to use HDMI for everything. The Oppo HM-31 switch available from the Oppo forum sponsor (top of page) will even save you from having to buy a DVI-HDMI adapter. You can also get your additional HDMI cables from them as well all for a very reasonable price.
post #9570 of 10937
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Originally Posted by hifi View Post

I'm going out of town so I don't really mind them taking the TV I just hope they can service it properly.

You still have the option of returning the set to Costco if you're not satisfied with the repair work. Did they give you a "new" 42PZ700 as a loaner? If so, you could probably talk them into letting you keep it if they can't fix the Costco one, although I'd check with Costco to see whether that would invalidate the additional year warranty or not.
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