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post #301 of 5974
Is anyone out there placing the set on its stand on a console or is pretty much everyone wall mounting? I'm planning on putting it on a console (don't have it yet), but in reading the owners manual it is recommended that you screw the stand into the console w/ brackets and then run a pair of stabilizing wires to the studs in the wall behind the set. Can anyone comment on how unstable the set is w/ out these measures? I don't mind the brackets into the console bit, as that won't be too noticeable, but running wires to the wall behind the set is a bit of an eye sore. I'm sure Panasonic is playing CYA to some extent, but since I don't live in an earthquake zone, I'm hoping to avoid it looking like I've built a suspension bridge behind the set. I'd appreciate any feedback from those who've placed this panel on a console and whether they've felt the need to follow Panasonic's precautions.

Thanks!
post #302 of 5974
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Originally Posted by swandog1 View Post

Is anyone out there placing the set on its stand on a console or is pretty much everyone wall mounting? I'm planning on putting it on a console (don't have it yet), but in reading the owners manual it is recommended that you screw the stand into the console w/ brackets and then run a pair of stabilizing wires to the studs in the wall behind the set. Can anyone comment on how unstable the set is w/ out these measures? I don't mind the brackets into the console bit, as that won't be too noticeable, but running wires to the wall behind the set is a bit of an eye sore. I'm sure Panasonic is playing CYA to some extent, but since I don't live in an earthquake zone, I'm hoping to avoid it looking like I've built a suspension bridge behind the set. I'd appreciate any feedback from those who've placed this panel on a console and whether they've felt the need to follow Panasonic's precautions.

Thanks!

I have it standing on a console and it is solid as a rock. No wobble, perfectly balanced...you would have to really yank it or push it with significant weight to get it to topple over (but a toddler could do it if he or she tried!).
post #303 of 5974
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Originally Posted by swandog1 View Post

Is anyone out there placing the set on its stand on a console or is pretty much everyone wall mounting? I'm planning on putting it on a console (don't have it yet), but in reading the owners manual it is recommended that you screw the stand into the console w/ brackets and then run a pair of stabilizing wires to the studs in the wall behind the set. Can anyone comment on how unstable the set is w/ out these measures? I don't mind the brackets into the console bit, as that won't be too noticeable, but running wires to the wall behind the set is a bit of an eye sore. I'm sure Panasonic is playing CYA to some extent, but since I don't live in an earthquake zone, I'm hoping to avoid it looking like I've built a suspension bridge behind the set. I'd appreciate any feedback from those who've placed this panel on a console and whether they've felt the need to follow Panasonic's precautions.

My 42PX75U is sitting on a console using the stand only; I don't use the stabilizing straps. It's an old apartment, so the top of the console isn't even level and the TV tilts forwards down a few degrees. It's a little wobbly, but I'm not worried in the least bit about it falling over. The installer said he'd never seen anyone use the straps. It's possible the 50" model might be less stable due to it's height and weight, but I don't know if the 50" model uses a larger stand.
post #304 of 5974
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Originally Posted by swandog1 View Post

Is anyone out there placing the set on its stand on a console or is pretty much everyone wall mounting? I'm planning on putting it on a console (don't have it yet), but in reading the owners manual it is recommended that you screw the stand into the console w/ brackets and then run a pair of stabilizing wires to the studs in the wall behind the set. Can anyone comment on how unstable the set is w/ out these measures? I don't mind the brackets into the console bit, as that won't be too noticeable, but running wires to the wall behind the set is a bit of an eye sore. I'm sure Panasonic is playing CYA to some extent, but since I don't live in an earthquake zone, I'm hoping to avoid it looking like I've built a suspension bridge behind the set. I'd appreciate any feedback from those who've placed this panel on a console and whether they've felt the need to follow Panasonic's precautions.

Thanks!

I agree with the other comments. Mine is on a console, no straps or wires, and its very stable. Of course, you wouldn't want a toddler hanging from it . . .
post #305 of 5974
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Originally Posted by FishKepr View Post

Thank you. I put my hand on a 77U at Costco and it was pretty warm, almost hot. The active fans on the 60U on the other hand kept it comfortably cool.

Keep in mind that the heat produced is directly proportional to how bright you are running the panel. Normally the display units in stores are set to Vivid, and are pumping out maximum brightness and maximum heat.
post #306 of 5974
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Originally Posted by ROXGenghis View Post

Regarding Sharpness: I haven't noticed the "clayface" that seemed to plague the 60 series, so there's been no need to reduce sharpness like folks used to. However, I notice no difference, whether I set sharpness to -30 or +30...the picture always looks the same to me. Have others noticed this? Does anyone have any pointers on what kind of content would best highlight differences in sharpness setting?

I just got a PE77U last night and kind of noticed the same thing, though setting way to the negative end of the scale did seem to make things a tad blurry and way into the positive scale seemed to introduce noise around lines. I left mine at 0.


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Regarding Color: I'm surprised that people are boosting their color even a little above zero. Even at -5 I find that some colors on Discovery HD are unrealistically bright. Are the positive color settings maybe just a personal preference for the "froot loop" pop it gives, despite being unrealistic?

I completely agree. I tired going higher and couldn't it didn't look real. I think I finally settled around -7.

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Regarding Tint: I and others have observed that faces often appear a bit too red or tan, perhaps attributable to a bit of a red push. But I see that folks are adjusting their tint into the negatives (magenta). Wouldn't this aggrevate the problem with the faces?

If your seeing too much red try taking your temp setting off of warm, that tends to add more reds, personally I think that the warm setting looks best though, I have my tint around -3 if I remember correctly.

What I'm trying to do now if figure out which I like better. Running black at light with the settings dialed down a bit to still give good blacks or running black at dark with settings dialed up a bit so dark scenes aren't too dark. Personally I'm trying to find that happy medium. i.e. I love the dark setting on bright scenes and the light setting on dark scenes. Any suggestions?
post #307 of 5974
rob,
Light vs Dark blacks:
Is this cable/OTA viewing, or dvd-based? Have you done a calibration?
I didn't go the whole ISF cal route on my PX75, but I used a THX optimizer routine found on any dvd with the THX logo (thx.com/home/dvd/search.html). It really helped me set my picture and brightness levels so that I could see all the ranges of black.

Note that your settings will depend on the input type (tuner, component, HDMI) etc since where the +-30 user adjustable range falls within the TV's 0-100 (full) range varies for each input. For my recent DVD player, settings at Picture +18, Sharpness at -15, normal color temp, and light blacks, HDMI and component had very different brightness settings to resolve the different shades of black: +9 for HDMI but -16 for component (also the player could have some effect on this, too). Also, note that different Pic settings will require different Brightness settings to achieve the same result. YMMV
post #308 of 5974
I picked up the 77U on Memorial Day weekend, online for sub $2k with no tax, free shipping and 18 months no payment or interest. I think I got a killer deal. I am extremely impressed with the set. The anti-glare coating was the clincher for me. My set sits across from 3 5x5 windows with shutters on them. Even with the shutters closed, light seeps through and could be seen on my old Sony Wega 36" CRT. This set practically eliminates it. The built in speakers sound great, although I plan to primarily use my Yamaha receiver. Overall, I am very satisfied!
post #309 of 5974
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Originally Posted by blding_THX View Post

Does anyone have their 77U hooked up to the DirecTV HR20-700?

The picture on my local HD is just incredible over HDMI. Sometimes there is a sync issue, but if there is - it's very hard to notice. My wife can't tell if it's there or not. For listening with the Sony ES, I tweaked the center channel delay to 14ms.

Also, what video settings are you using with the HR20?

I have it connected to Vip622 from Dish and picture is as good as OTA. knowck on wood I have not had single sync problem so far on either.
post #310 of 5974
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Originally Posted by chrisb0 View Post

rob,
Light vs Dark blacks:
Is this cable/OTA viewing, or dvd-based? Have you done a calibration?
I didn't go the whole ISF cal route on my PX75, but I used a THX optimizer routine found on any dvd with the THX logo (thx.com/home/dvd/search.html). It really helped me set my picture and brightness levels so that I could see all the ranges of black.

Note that your settings will depend on the input type (tuner, component, HDMI) etc since where the +-30 user adjustable range falls within the TV's 0-100 (full) range varies for each input. For my recent DVD player, settings at Picture +18, Sharpness at -15, normal color temp, and light blacks, HDMI and component had very different brightness settings to resolve the different shades of black: +9 for HDMI but -16 for component (also the player could have some effect on this, too). Also, note that different Pic settings will require different Brightness settings to achieve the same result. YMMV

Thanks for your info. Yes, I kind of half a**ed calibrated it last night with some test patterns from my DVE disc, I plan on spending more time on it later. As for my content, it's a mix of Sat/OTA content via a couple of ViP622s and an Oppo 981 upscaling DVD player, all over HDMI. I currently have my Wii on the component but that will be going downstairs onto my now old Pioneer plasma as soon as I mount it up on the wall down there.

My point with the original post about light vs. dark black was which should I use as a starting point.
post #311 of 5974
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Originally Posted by gscavezze View Post

I picked up the 77U on Memorial Day weekend, online for sub $2k with no tax, free shipping and 18 months no payment or interest. I think I got a killer deal. I am extremely impressed with the set. The anti-glare coating was the clincher for me. My set sits across from 3 5x5 windows with shutters on them. Even with the shutters closed, light seeps through and could be seen on my old Sony Wega 36" CRT. This set practically eliminates it. The built in speakers sound great, although I plan to primarily use my Yamaha receiver. Overall, I am very satisfied!

I think I found the same deal as you did....ordered it on Memorial Day and checked the same site the following day and the price was $400 higher and the best 0% financing was only 12 months.

I ended up getting the same type of price on this 50" as I would've on the 42" at BB or CC after sales tax would've been added, etc.

Got in at the right time, and LOVE the TV!
post #312 of 5974
I picked up a 42px75u yesterday. I first bought the Toshiba 42hp66 and truth be told it was a horrible. So, I exchanged it for the panny. I found this site by accident and thanks to you guys I know I made a good choice. Picture Quality is awesome. It's such an improvement over the Toshiba. Anyways I just wanted to say thanks.
post #313 of 5974
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Originally Posted by swandog1 View Post

Is anyone out there placing the set on its stand on a console or is pretty much everyone wall mounting? I'm planning on putting it on a console (don't have it yet), but in reading the owners manual it is recommended that you screw the stand into the console w/ brackets and then run a pair of stabilizing wires to the studs in the wall behind the set. Can anyone comment on how unstable the set is w/ out these measures? I don't mind the brackets into the console bit, as that won't be too noticeable, but running wires to the wall behind the set is a bit of an eye sore. I'm sure Panasonic is playing CYA to some extent, but since I don't live in an earthquake zone, I'm hoping to avoid it looking like I've built a suspension bridge behind the set. I'd appreciate any feedback from those who've placed this panel on a console and whether they've felt the need to follow Panasonic's precautions.

Thanks!

I live in L.A., earthquake country. We get a major quake every 20 years or so, and are expecting another soon. The last quake in 1993 was strong enough to cause my refrigerator to tip over and empty all the contents onto the floor. My 19" tv was knocked onto the floor. I now anchor everything down, especially a $2,000 TV.

I used the hooks on the back of the set and anchored it to the wall with wire, as per the owners manual. Without them, however, the TV is pretty stable. In fact, I don't plan on securing the base to my cabinet, just the two wires.
post #314 of 5974
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Originally Posted by dw0827 View Post

I agree with the other comments. Mine is on a console, no straps or wires, and its very stable. Of course, you wouldn't want a toddler hanging from it . . .

Okay, no toddlers. What about pugs? We have two and I guess if they worked together they would weigh as much as a toddler...that's a frightening thought.

Probably should worry more about all the hair they shed clogging up the vents.
post #315 of 5974
discussing this in another post, how do you 77U owners like the antiglare coating. Did you side-by-side vs the 75U prior to purchasing? Are their any adverse effects on picture quality that make the 77U more LCD'ish?
post #316 of 5974
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Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post

discussing this in another post, how do you 77U owners like the antiglare coating. Did you side-by-side vs the 75U prior to purchasing? Are their any adverse effects on picture quality that make the 77U more LCD'ish?


I was just posting about this on another thread, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=843402.

I just picked up the PE77U from Costco thinking it had the antiglare, got it home and realized it did not. Wanting to see what I was missing I headed over to my local Magnolia Hi-Fi and checked out the PX77U and frankly I don't think I want the antiglare screen. To me it made the plasma look like an LCD, which I don't like. I'm going to keep the PE77U for a bit and see if I like it, if not I can return it and get the PX77U for the same price direct from Panasonic through their EPP store.
post #317 of 5974
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Originally Posted by blding_THX View Post

I have my 50PX77U hooked up the Oppo DV-981HD, set to 720P. I've tried 1080p, but there is no difference, so I have it set to what allows the 77U to do the least amount of processing - make sense??


ok. I may be an idiot for asking this but...

how do you change the resolution output setting while using the oppo?

i don't know what mine is set to or how to change it.

is it something in the menu on the plasma, or something that i need to do on the dvd player itself?
post #318 of 5974
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Originally Posted by clos101 View Post

ok. I may be an idiot for asking this but...

how do you change the resolution output setting while using the oppo?

i don't know what mine is set to or how to change it.

is it something in the menu on the plasma, or something that i need to do on the dvd player itself?

You change it from the DVD Player. On the Oppo 981 you need to make sure the DVD playback is stopped then you hit the HDMI button to cycle through the different resolutions until you find the one you want.
post #319 of 5974
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Originally Posted by offdee View Post

Same issue for me...turn it to "analog" and the sound should work.

My question is, why does "digital" and "auto" not work? If you're veiwing High Def channels shouldn't you be able to listen in "digital"?

The sound still is OK on analog, but wondering if that is just what it is or what do I need to do to make "digital" or "auto" work?

I'm guessing that "digital" turns off the internal speakers and routes the sound to the digital output on the back of the set.
post #320 of 5974
thanks rob !
post #321 of 5974
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Originally Posted by badmeng View Post

Just bought the 42px75u, my 1st plasma for my bedroom and I want to thank AVS members for their help. I bought last week the Toshiba 37hl67 LCD and it is a nice set and does SD very good but the shadow detail in dark scenes for movies bothered me. I returned the set and I got the plasma for only $125 more and I love it . I've had the set on for the past 24 hours and this set is barely even warm. I also noticed there is less glare and reflection than last years models. Will I be ok breaking this tv in on discovery hd? I took it out of vivid mode and turned the picture and brightness down to -15.

I'm currently breaking in my 77U using Discovery HD. They broadcast 24-7 in HD so you don't have to worry about the black bars. I put all settings on 0, per the panny web site.
post #322 of 5974
Does anyone know the box dimensions of the 75u? I am trying to see if it will fit in my suv. I was so angry tonight at CC. I found a discontinued 60u brand new for cheap (I know we can't talk about pricing but think of the word "grand" ) so I immediately bought it. I got to the counter to pick it up and the plasma box was laying down! So the employee says that isn't a problem and stands up the box upside down! LOL, I couldn't believe it. They let me test it and of course the screen was messed up...........grrr. Oh well, I found out later that it would of been a quarter of an inch to tall for my cabinet anyway so I guess it didn't matter. I can't believe how some of these B&M places handle tv's!
post #323 of 5974
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Does anyone know the box dimensions of the 75u? I am trying to see if it will fit in my suv. I was so angry tonight at CC. I found a discontinued 60u brand new for cheap (I know we can't talk about pricing but think of the word "grand" ) so I immediately bought it. I got to the counter to pick it up and the plasma box was laying down! So the employee says that isn't a problem and stands up the box upside down! LOL, I couldn't believe it. They let me test it and of course the screen was messed up...........grrr. Oh well, I found out later that it would of been a quarter of an inch to tall for my cabinet anyway so I guess it didn't matter. I can't believe how some of these B&M places handle tv's!

I'm not sure what size you want. My 42PX75U box is 18.5x32x47"
post #324 of 5974
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Originally Posted by ROXGenghis View Post

I'm not sure what size you want. My 42PX75U box is 18.5x32x47"

Sorry, I want the actual shipping box dimensions. Is that the dimensions you posted?
post #325 of 5974
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Originally Posted by YOTR View Post

Sorry, I want the actual shipping box dimensions. Is that the dimensions you posted?

Yep, that's the box it was in when it was delivered. I meant I wasn't sure if you wanted the dimensions for the 42" or 50" version.
post #326 of 5974
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Originally Posted by ROXGenghis View Post

Yep, that's the box it was in when it was delivered. I meant I wasn't sure if you wanted the dimensions for the 42" or 50" version.



Oh, sorry about that . It looks like I might be able to just fit it in my suv. Thanks!
post #327 of 5974
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Originally Posted by ROXGenghis View Post

My 42PX75U box is 18.5 x 32 x 47"

Wow that box is short - the box for my 42PX50U was 38" tall. Does the PX75U come with the table stand already installed? That would be a nice touch.

On my PX50U, the stand was packed separately in a box located below the panel, thus the tall height. I had to help the CC delivery guy assemble the stand then lift the TV over the posts and lower it onto the stand.
post #328 of 5974
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

Wow that box is short - the box for my 42PX50U was 38" tall. Does the PX75U come with the table stand already installed? That would be a nice touch.

On my PX50U, the stand was packed separately in a box located below the panel, thus the tall height. I had to help the CC delivery guy assemble the stand then lift the TV over the posts and lower it onto the stand.

Nope, the stand for my PX75U was not already installed. I don't remember where in the box it was packaged, but it's just a flat piece of plastic. I think the stand itself was disassembled so didn't take up much room. But my installers did have to lift the TV over the posts and lower it onto the stand just as yours did.
post #329 of 5974
Same with the 42px77u ...
Stand came ...in box ..flat ..manually added the 2 pegs to hold the plasma ...I lifted the plasma onto the pegs ..

Does the 42px77u show hours of usage? ...I think I am ready to tweak it up a little ...lol
post #330 of 5974
hours of usage are in the service menu
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