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post #31 of 611
I agree about the Wii,Xbox360 and PS3.I couldn't return my TV by now and I'd be pissed if it turns out there's a real lag problem with those.I gave away my N64 years ago but I plan to get one of the new consoles
post #32 of 611
Another thing that I've noticed is that most of the complaints about the "popping" or "cracking" sound comes from 42u owners, not 43u owners. Is this something that every set has or do some people own the 42u/43u and have not noticed any popping sounds?
post #33 of 611
does the d43u line have the banding problems that plague the higher end sharp models?
post #34 of 611
I've only had the set about five days but have noticed no banding problems. I've seen a little color leak in the corners but it's only noticeable in low lighting.
post #35 of 611
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Originally Posted by pickitup13 View Post

Another thing that I've noticed is that most of the complaints about the "popping" or "cracking" sound comes from 42u owners, not 43u owners. Is this something that every set has or do some people own the 42u/43u and have not noticed any popping sounds?

I haven't notice any popping or cracking. I have the 42U since last Saturday
post #36 of 611
Good to see a thread like this for owners of D42U/D43U. I have the LC37D43U from Costco and I love it. While the Aquos remote has 1 input button to switch between inputs, I was happy to find that my harmony 880 remote database has discrete codes for inputs, allowing me to directly go to TV, Input1-Input5 and PC. I tested these and Input1-Input5 codes work fine, but for some reason, I can't get TV (InputTV) and PC (InputPC) to work. I got around TV input by programming it as Next Channel, becoz one of the posters mentioned that you can get to TV input from any other input by changing the channel. However, this leaves the PC input still unresolved. Anybody got this problem? How did you resolve it?
post #37 of 611
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Originally Posted by pickitup13 View Post

Well, whenever you move the ps3 or 360 and use it with the Sharp, then let us know if there was any lag

Also, why do you think that the composite cables had lag, but the component didn't? Would using composite cables on a crt produce lag? I have a wii and I'm using it with a crt and I don't see any visible lag. I'd hate to get the lc37d43u and find out that playing older consoles like the N64 will lag way more than on a crt. Also, do you think even the gp1u would lag a lot with only composite cables?

none whatsoever...just got the 32" version. Oh my god! It's amazing. I played a few rounds of Gears online and there was no lag. None in the dashboard either. What are some good setting that people are using for normal sd content and for their 360s?
post #38 of 611
Thread Starter 
Q: "why do you think that the composite cables had lag, but the component didn't?"

A: Like I say in the summary post, perhaps it's because of the extra deinterlace step. Composite is always interlaced; component can be progressive; the display is inherently progressive.

Q: Is the sound popping limited to 42U sets?

A: Good question, I added a query about that to the summary post.

Q: "does the d43u line have the banding problems that plague the higher end sharp models?"

A: That's a loaded question. If you look for flaws, you will find them. The 92U/higher end guys are spending way more money than us and as a result are being very picky. I don't see banding on my set (even with the service grey screen) and I don't want anyone to point it out to me.

I updated the post with a bit more weird videotape behavior, I'm sure I'm the only one who cares
post #39 of 611
I'll just re-post my general settings for the 37D43U which I use with everything and I haven't changed for a month:

In a relatively dim room:

AV MODE :USER(or any mode that turns Enhanced Picture Contrast OFF)
OPC On Range -5 to -6(TV) and -11 to -10 (DVD)(I would go as low as -10 for TV if it wasn't for the backlite interfering with my cablebox remote at certain brightness ranges).Low backlight =better contrast ratio
Contrast +28
Brightness +12(lower you lose shadow detail)
Color +2
Tint :0
Sharpness -5
Color Temp:Middle
Black Extension:On or Off,whatever
Digital Noise Reduction:Low

I tend to keep my backlite lower and brightness higher than other settings I've seen.Seems the best compromise for blacks and shadow detail.

Oh there ARE popping noises from the cabinet with the 37D43U after you turn it on or off ...I just never really cared about that since they don't bother me.

I don't see banding and backlight bleed is very minimal.
post #40 of 611
As far as this popping noise goes, I wouldn't really mind if you only hear it for a few minutes after turning on/off the tv. But I think it would bug me if it lasted for like 30 minutes. How long does it usually take for the popping noises to completely stop after turning it on/off?
post #41 of 611
A few minutes,it's more like creaking noises not pops.Unless I pay attention to them I don't hear them if there's sound comming out of the speakers.

Saw that costco canada re-stocked on the 37D43U in stores today.

I also stopped by a Future Shop and they had a 1080p 37D62U next to a 37D43U showing the same HD demo.I couldn't tell any difference in the picture quality(other than different color temperatures) and I stayed 15 minutes to make sure.Yes,2 months later I'm still trying to make sure I made no mistake.This contradicts a previous post I made where I thought the 62U had better blacks.They seemed the same this time.
post #42 of 611
Thanks king mark. I guess I assumed that they were really loud noises that you would hear over the sound, but you're saying that you can't even hear it if you have some sound on. That's good news. And the fact that it goes away after a few minutes, then I guess I don't care much.

I guess its not something to jump ship on getting this tv for. Plus, other people reported not hearing any creaking. So, who knows, maybe I'll be one of the lucky ones.
post #43 of 611
If you listen carefully and pay attention you can hear it sometimes.It's occasionnal small creaking noises like some plastic parts are flexing .I bet it exists to some degree on any plasticky electronic equipment that heats up, like a plastic car dashboard.I think my old CRT TV did that also .

I also noticed in the store that the cabinet of this TV is much thinner and generally smaller than models from other brands for a 37 inch.Maybe this compactness means that heat from the lamp and circuits has less space to dissipate and heats up the plastic parts more causing those noises.

Last years 40U Sharp which I also tried had a high pitch hum from the backlite,now THAT was annoying to the point of beeing a dealbreaker.
post #44 of 611
When you say that you can hear it if you pay attention, do you mean just in the first few minutes after turning on the TV? Or do you mean that it does it all throughout watching it?

I think my old CRT does the same thing and I've never really cared. Do you think this is something that I wouldn't hear unless the sound was muted? My only other option for a TV right now is the LG 37lc7d and I know some people mention a humming noise from the backlight, which seems even worse than this problem. This creaking thing is now the only issue I can find with this TV, since many people have confirmed that gaming on this TV is fine.
post #45 of 611
Now that I'm paying attention I hear it occasionally through out watching it.Anyways this is really a non issue to me .I was bothered by far worst things on other sets.A backlite hum is much worse as it is constant and high pitched.I bet these creaks are on every LCD's if you listen close enough
post #46 of 611
I've been away for a bit and am happy to see that your thread has been a success, ChrisC47. Nice job!
post #47 of 611
Got a quick ?...I've been playing gears of war online and i recently tried the forza demo...and in gears. The character I'm playing with looks awesome, but the building in the far off distance don't seem straight. The top of the building seems to be crooked like _____
________. The distance between these lines isn't that far obviosly. But the buildings just dont seem very sharp, and I don't remember this on my 55" Mitsibuishi. The same problem occures with the forza demo. The car's outline is not sharp at all. It's raggedy like the buildings? I'm running default game settings right now? Any help would be appreciated
post #48 of 611
You may have the sharpness up too high. Have you calibrated the game input? I had a much better pict after calibrating my game input for my ps2. Many folks put the sharpness up way too high on their sets, especially if they are calibrating by eye. Just a thought.
post #49 of 611
i have it at +2...i've screwed around with it. and it didnt make a dif. It may be jaggies though...at least for the forza demo, as i read so on the xbox forums. I'll screw around with it. I wish someone would post settings for movies, games, sd content etc. in an organized manner. Also...If I use the VGA cable for my xbox 360, how do get the sound to work, as I plugged in the audio cables into the seperate slot, and heard nothing?
post #50 of 611
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Jose G View Post

I've been away for a bit and am happy to see that your thread has been a success, ChrisC47. Nice job!

Thanks Jose. I've been away myself for a few days (hammered at work) but I'll continue to update the post, eventually, as people post specific lessons here.

This TV has suddenly made me a NASCAR fan.
post #51 of 611
Thread Starter 
Has anyone figured out how to MANUALLY add a digital channel?

I adjusted my antenna to get a particular ATSC OTA station to come in, and used the "channel strength" menu option to get that station's signal up (it happened to be RF channel 39). The tuner locked onto that channel ("channel strength" went up to a non-zero value) but then there was no way to manually add that channel to the lineup. I poked around the manual and menu but found nothing.

I eventually gave up and did another channel scan ... the problem with that is that by repeating the scan, it may now MISS channels I had previously. I want to add all known channels in my market (manually if necessary) and THEN move the antenna to get them all to come in well.
post #52 of 611
I thought that there was and option in the same menu screen to manually add channels/run the scan? I have only messed with it a little bit so not 100%.
post #53 of 611
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Originally Posted by stlpedder721 View Post

If I use the VGA cable for my xbox 360, how do get the sound to work, as I plugged in the audio cables into the seperate slot, and heard nothing?

When I use vga (xga) for my mac, I use a male to male mini plug to get the sound to the PC audio in. I don't have an xbox, but I imagine, you would need to get an adapter to go from rca (white/red) to a mini stereo jack (like a mini headphone) plug. You can get this at radio shack. This then can go to the pc audio in by the vga in. You can also always send the sound right to your receiver instead, if you have that set up. I prefer to send sound to both my set and to my receiver, so my daughter can play with the receiver on or off. I use a digital connection to send sound to my receiver and the rca to send it to the set for my game set up.
post #54 of 611
By the way, I saw the 37" 43U in the store side by side with a 1080p sharp set- I think it was the 62U. I could not see the difference between 720p and 1080p. The sets weren't calibrated, and I would be the first to tell you that they needed to be for a true side by side, but in any case, I could not tell them apart, motion from basketball and all.
post #55 of 611
yeah i couldn't tell them apart either
post #56 of 611
I have actually seen both the D43U and D62U side by side at Best Buy, and the D43U actually looked better. Mind you that the sets were not calibrated, and the signal source was probably of poor quality, but that convinced me that there's no need to go 1080p for a 37 inch LCD.
post #57 of 611
the 62U would have cost me 500$ more in the best deal possible at this point,and considering the PQ looked identical...

I'm a bit weary about 1080p LCD's..they are rather new and more prone to unresolved issues and bugs as I've been reading in other threads
post #58 of 611
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Originally Posted by Jose G View Post

When I use vga (xga) for my mac, I use a male to male mini plug to get the sound to the PC audio in. I don't have an xbox, but I imagine, you would need to get an adapter to go from rca (white/red) to a mini stereo jack (like a mini headphone) plug. You can get this at radio shack. This then can go to the pc audio in by the vga in. You can also always send the sound right to your receiver instead, if you have that set up. I prefer to send sound to both my set and to my receiver, so my daughter can play with the receiver on or off. I use a digital connection to send sound to my receiver and the rca to send it to the set for my game set up.


You can set the audio source in the menu. Its default is video only, I think.
post #59 of 611
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Originally Posted by jjtsl1 View Post

I have actually seen both the D43U and D62U side by side at Best Buy, and the D43U actually looked better. Mind you that the sets were not calibrated, and the signal source was probably of poor quality, but that convinced me that there's no need to go 1080p for a 37 inch LCD.

That's funny, b/c the truth is I thought the 43U looked a little better also, but then I thought it could be my bias.
post #60 of 611
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jose G View Post

When I use vga (xga) for my mac, I use a male to male mini plug to get the sound to the PC audio in. I don't have an xbox, but I imagine, you would need to get an adapter to go from rca (white/red) to a mini stereo jack (like a mini headphone) plug. You can get this at radio shack. This then can go to the pc audio in by the vga in. You can also always send the sound right to your receiver instead, if you have that set up. I prefer to send sound to both my set and to my receiver, so my daughter can play with the receiver on or off. I use a digital connection to send sound to my receiver and the rca to send it to the set for my game set up.

thx ill try that for dvd's(upscaling), but i still prefer component for normal gaming
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