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post #31 of 225
I convert the files to MPEG-2 using Nero Vision 4. Those I can edit with Ulead's MSP 7. MSP itself can't handle the QT AVC1 file and VS 11 Plus doesn't work right either. You can also edit the MPEG-2 files with VS 11 though.
post #32 of 225
I meant to mention that a search shows that Aiptek PR has been busy this week and a lot of blogs, news sites (like CamcorderInfo) have articles on the camera. Perhaps this is a push to get them into the stores rather than just available online.
post #33 of 225
I've got the camera and was actually impressed with the build quality, but the cover over the USB port is rather flimsy. Concerned about the video playback reported earlier. I'll put it through the paces this week, but don't anticipate playing from the camera to the TV all that often (will edit as video files).
post #34 of 225
ib8 - Sorry about the problem you are having. The only thing I could suggest for the playback problem is to try a different SD card, Can you post the brand, type, and size? Has a different BRAND card been tried?

I am fairly happy with performance so far. The zoom motor is loud. My wish list would be for a microphone in. Low lighting isn't too bad for video, but not good for stills (there is a good flash strobe though).

Docking station [called "Instant Theater" is for the most part a boxing stuffer. This doesn't really integrate well with this camera as it is designed for the lower end Aipek cams with mp3 function (this doesn't have that). It was hope that you could charge the battery or cam and it doesn't. You can only charge one battery at a time (there are 2 batteries in the box, last 30 minutes each) with either USB or DC adapter.

I ordered an 8GB SDHC card and it hasn't arrived yet so using a 512 MB card for now. The manual doesn't address the SDHC (at least the printed one), but I believe the web site at Aiptek does.
post #35 of 225
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Originally Posted by ib8 View Post

1) freezes once in a while when connected to a TV for playback. Has to be reset by removing / reinserting the battery.

2) started randomly loosing date/time. All of a sudden (two days in a row) the camera looses correct date/time setting and resets to some date in 2006 ...

3) started to randomly record without audio. Yesterday I shot several dozen short clips and was surprised to find out that about a dozen clips in the middle of the sequence got recorded without audio.


There are different "speed classes" for SD cards, if you are using a Class 2 this would mean 2 megs per second. This would possibly lead to the problems you specify. I highly recommend a Class 6 card from either SANDISK or TRANSCEND or at least read whatever brand you buy. I am using this one (an 8GB SDHC card which will hold about 4 hrs of video:

TRANSCEND SDHC TS8GSDHC6
post #36 of 225
I agree about the class 6 cards. I ordered mine on Wendsday but Costco online still hasn't shipped it. Just wondering how fast they are at sending out orders.

I ordered a Kingston class 6 8gb card from Newegg and it's already on the way.

Also I was wondering if there is any way of downsampling the HD video to 853x480 for a NTSC dvd. Ideally for Mac but at this point anything will do.
post #37 of 225
Okay, so I'm a Luddite, using (well, not really, that's the problem) a 10 year old camcorder.

How does the Aiptek compare?

Thanks.
post #38 of 225
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

I convert the files to MPEG-2 using Nero Vision 4.

I do get 2 vertical bars when converting with the Nero Vision 4, and vid is slightly squized. Any other converter?

BTW Premiere CS3 will import aiptek mov's but the playback is choppy
post #39 of 225
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Originally Posted by xsherlock View Post

I do get 2 vertical bars when converting with the Nero Vision 4, and vid is slightly squized. Any other converter?

BTW Premiere CS3 will import aiptek mov's but the playback is choppy


Download the free K-lite codecs I posted in a link earlier - don't install the included codec with the camera. This works with PE 3. If you did install the Aiptek one, do a manual uninstall as they don't like each other. After you copy the files over, manually change the file extension from *.mov to *.avi and you should be able to edit away - it is a bit of a pain to do these steps, but it works. Also, the files play fine in WMP too. Wish they would have included the K-lite codecs on the disk, but the documentation in general is completely sparse to begin with. I don't see any artifacts in the video (wavy complaints) with this codec.
post #40 of 225
Two vertical bars where? The video of course is 16:9 so the display on Nero Vision being 4:3 is going to have vertical bars at the top and bottom to display 16:9. The conversion to MPEG-2 or their Nero Vision MP4 are both okay. The video is not 4:3 letterboxed.
post #41 of 225
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Originally Posted by kculp View Post

Download the free K-lite codecs ......

Ok I did have a codecs from K-lite instaled and it is coreAVC for h.264 decoding.
It renders the file nicely in any player but in Premiere Pro it is choppy. Could there be a diffrence in Premiere Pro and PE3 on how they handle the video?

Can you load Aiptek file at Gspot to verify what exactly codec do you use when rendering the avi file?
post #42 of 225
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Originally Posted by Brian Conrad View Post

Two vertical bars where? The video of course is 16:9 so the display on Nero Vision being 4:3 is going to have vertical bars at the top and bottom to display 16:9. The conversion to MPEG-2 or their Nero Vision MP4 are both okay. The video is not 4:3 letterboxed.

My Nero Vision 4 is adding 2 vertical black bars on the sides of the video !!!!
16 pixels each side, and changing a small bit aspect ratio.
post #43 of 225
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Originally Posted by xsherlock View Post

Can you load Aiptek file at Gspot to verify what exactly codec do you use when rendering the avi file?


I don't render the file to AVI, I change the file extension manually from mov to avi before I start the editing and rendering. I've not had any problems, but if you have the codec installed it might be best to get the "mega pack" of codecs just to be on the safe side (still free). When it installs it will prompt you to do an update (I know this sounds like lots of steps, but like you I wanted to use the adobe solutions for editing) - Probably no one else will care:

K-Lite Mega Pack Link
post #44 of 225
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Originally Posted by xsherlock View Post

My Nero Vision 4 is adding 2 vertical black bars on the sides of the video !!!!
16 pixels each side, and changing a small bit aspect ratio.

I'm not getting those and I have the latest version of Nero Vision. Nero Recode though does have an option for cropping and letterboxing which you'll want to turn off.
post #45 of 225
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Originally Posted by kculp View Post

I don't render the file to AVI, I change the file extension manually from mov to avi before I start the editing and rendering.

I got that that you just change the extension. By "rendering" I meant rendering it to the screen for display. Correct me if i'm wrong but I understand Adobe Premiere uses windows DirectShow for display of the files you edit so this must be the codec that you use which is well compatible with Premiere. I just want to double check that it is the codec from K-lite pack. Gspot evokes the file the same way Premiere does so this the way to confirm it. Load to Gspot orginal Aiptek file just with the changed extension


Brian >
my Nero Vision version is 4.9.6.6- I use export template MPEG-2
Video mode - Custom
30 FPS
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Size 1280x720
SmartEncoding ON
Fast Encodin (1-Pass)
Sample Format - Progresive

The same at your side?
post #46 of 225
I see what you mean. I was looking at the display on my HD set played using the AVeL Linkplayer2 which will seems to crop the image somewhat (a topic of discussion elsewhere on this forum). We should knock Nero for that. It does it worse if you save in Nero Digital format.

VS 11+ will render an MPEG-2 correctly without the crop but they seem to have the audio interleave messed up. I rendered it both with their HDV and a Custom setting where I could drop the bitrate to 12 mbps and the audio 192 kbps. Also in Nero I use the NTSC setting so the audio stays in sync at 29.97 fps. I also set the bitrates there to those I mentioned (about the same as broadcast streams). I do that to assure smooth playing on the AVeL.
post #47 of 225
Ok I got a way to get proper MPEG2's from Aiptek in more or less automated way.

First I do extract audio to PCM Wav with Easy Video to Audio Converter.

Then I use Media Concept Encoder to create MPEG2 files. Media Concepts creates nice quality video but somehow cant find audio in the aiptek's files. Lucky it has an option to add audio track from the separate file.

This can be batch scripted as it works at 1/10th of realtime on my dualcore Athlon64 @ 2.4 Ghz.

10h later I have a dir full of HD MPEG2 files.

So far this is the only way I found to work with the Aiptek files.
post #48 of 225
xsherlock -

Can you send me one of your scripts in a PM, or post here? This sounds exactly like what I've been looking for.

I'm assuming you're burning to HD-DVD. How is the quality? How does it compare to viewing it played back from the Aiptek to your display?
post #49 of 225
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Originally Posted by rickforrest View Post

Can you send me one of your scripts in a PM, or post here? This sounds exactly like what I've been looking for.

It is hard to send as Mainconcept stores this script in multiple files one for each video file and aditional one master file. It is easier to create it yourself then edit my scrits. Here is how I do it:

Create a Dir that you will use for Aiptek conversions. In mainconcept setup a sample conversion to MPEG2 with desired bitrate.

Video source = D:\\aiptek_conv_dir\\FILE0001.MOV
InFileAudio = D:\\aiptek_conv_dir\\FILE0001_OUTPUT.wav
OutFile = D:\\aiptek_conv_dir\\FILE0001.mpg

"Ins" sends it to the batchlist (you can bring the batchlist window with "F2")

Now the boring part. Increment file names by one and "Ins" Populate the list with the number of entries equal to numer of shots-files you usualy have in one shooting sesion with camera (20-30 in my case)

Now you have a batch that makes the conversion. Mainconcept never deletes this script from the Batchlist window so you can reuse it many times. The bad thing is you have to ofload the card each time so the files name start from "zero" each time.

Extracting audio from the orginal files has to be done manualy, I so far has not found a piece of software that would handle Aiptek and had batch option. week.

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Originally Posted by rickforrest View Post

I'm assuming you're burning to HD-DVD. How is the quality? How does it compare to viewing it played back from the Aiptek to your display?

I just use for PC viewing and for embending movies on my cooking blog.
Sorry no HD disc player nor Aiptek is compatible with my HDTV's component input. (I get out of sync garbage)
post #50 of 225
I am having trouble getting 2 different machines to recognize the camera when I plug it in via cable (I've been taking the SD card out and putting it in the reader directly previously). Anyone else having this trouble? I am talking about the USB cable to the Aiptek. One machine is a Vista and the other is the Win XP.

Any suggestions?

I go into the device driver and scan for new hardware. USB Device Not Recognized.
post #51 of 225
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Originally Posted by xsherlock View Post

It is hard to send as Mainconcept stores this script in multiple files one for each video file and aditional one master file. It is easier to create it yourself then edit my scrits. Here is how I do it:

Thanks!!!
post #52 of 225
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Originally Posted by kculp View Post

I am having trouble getting 2 different machines to recognize the camera when I plug it in via cable (I've been taking the SD card out and putting it in the reader directly previously). Anyone else having this trouble? I am talking about the USB cable to the Aiptek. One machine is a Vista and the other is the Win XP.

Any suggestions?

I go into the device driver and scan for new hardware. USB Device Not Recognized.

If the Aiptek comes with a CD, did you install the software prior to plugging in the USB cable?

(I get my Aiptek Thursday, which is why I don't know).
post #53 of 225
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Originally Posted by rickforrest View Post

If the Aiptek comes with a CD, did you install the software prior to plugging in the USB cable?

Thanks, I finally got it to work on the Vista machine (shows up as a drive - didn't want the codec installed so nope on the software - but "walked" the driver update over to the Aiptek folder.) Still having trouble with the WinXP machine, it didn't pick it up so on that machine the software was installed. Now I am thinking it needs to be plugged directly into a USB 2 port from the motherboard, but I don't know.

The more I use this camera though, the better I like it. It is terribly simple to use from an operational point of view.

Anyway, I'll figure this out somehow.
post #54 of 225
I pulled the trigger and ordered the GO-HD from CircuitCity. If I keep it, I'll sell my Panasonic SV-AV100. I love camcorders that record to SD cards, and I'm sure that the GO-HD will have a lot better picture than my old Panny.

I'll miss the great OIS and the 10X zoom of the Panny, but getting HD footage will be worth it!
post #55 of 225
I think you will like it, the SD thing gets me too - can't believe no more tapes! I am cautiously safeguarding my memory though - protect it from heat (battery).
post #56 of 225
I'm having trouble putting the files on disc, can someone give me a heads up? Its writing it but it wont play the disc.
post #57 of 225
Looks like circuitcity has a price mistake on their GO-HD. Add it to your cart to see what I mean. This coupled with the AAA coupon will make it pretty cheap!
post #58 of 225
just returned mine, I had a hard time putting it on a dvd for playback. I went and bought a panasonic sd1 with the aaa coupon
post #59 of 225
nice cam, any pic/still samples are wellcomed though.
post #60 of 225
This thing looks pretty good on a tripod

um.. since I can't post links search for

Aiptek at mininova
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