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post #1291 of 1583
Just got my 94 hooked up and wow. Does anybody know of a online coarse I can take to learn how to set this monster up? This is one complicated animal. There are more bells and whistles than you can shake a stick at. I have a Sony BD S301 and a Pioneer DV-58 for source thru HDMI and a Epson Powerlite 1080 projector on a Da-LITE 110" Cinema Contour for a display. Intital results are awsome. I am running the audio into my Kliptch Legend series 5.1 system with a 15" Velodyne sub. The 94 drives me into the next county with the high effiency Kliptch. The DTS on CEO3RDKind BluRay will blow your socks off and anything else you have that is loose fitting. The video is handled with perfection thru the 94. 1080P is soooooo nice. So crisp you would think you are looking at a postcard. I highly recommend the 94 but be prepared to READ the manual so you can set it up properly. The MCACC auto setup with the supplied mike is very thorough and did a decent job of tweeking my room accoustics. I have yet to figure out full band phase control. Again just read the manual.......
post #1292 of 1583
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Originally Posted by joshbish View Post

I just tried Live Free or Die Hard and same thing --- the receiver is just displaying "DTS", so I guess I'm just getting the core. Any other ideas? I guess I'll start with exchanging the BD30 and if that doesn't fix it, then I'll exchange the receiver.

Did you ask in the BD30 thread in the BD player area? I have a Pioneer BD player so I don't have much insight on what to look for setup wise.
post #1293 of 1583
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Originally Posted by clarkbar911 View Post

Did you ask in the BD30 thread in the BD player area? I have a Pioneer BD player so I don't have much insight on what to look for setup wise.

Nope, I was pretty sure it had to be the receiver that was screwing up, but it turns out it was the player. I did a factory reset on the player and then went back and changed everything to bitstream and boom ... DTS-HD MSTR. What a relief. Thanks everyone.
post #1294 of 1583
I'm looking at getting either the 92 or 94 ... can anyone recommend a good place for price $ and service to purchase one of these ??? PM me please !
thanks
post #1295 of 1583
Xbox 360 owners with HD DVD: I'm curious about the WMA Pro output for TrueHD. How does it sound compared to DD, DTS, or even a pure TrueHD stream?

I've been looking at new receivers, and one benifit of Pioneer is the WMA Pro support. Though, I notice there's not much discussion about it, so it may not even be much of a benifit. But I'm still curious.
post #1296 of 1583
When using the Mccac setup on the vsx92, what would one want to set the frequency of their sub to? Does the vsx92 set the sub at the right frequency or is that something that needs to be done manually. I usually have it set to around 80 hertz for the type of speakers I have, but I would think you would want it all the way up so that the vsx92 can have the entire range to find the optimal settings, does this sound right?
post #1297 of 1583
Hi everyone,

I'm getting ready to order my 92 and the cheapest price I've found is from a company called TheCameraProfessionals.com. Does anyone know anything about them, good or bad? Their price is $789 + $25 shipping. Does anyone know of a better deal?

Also, I have a question about the player. Can anyone recommend a BR player? My projector is the JVC RS2 onto a 110" studio tek 130. Until I get a Blu ray, I would like to have something to play all of my kids dvds on (Cars, Monsters Inc., etc..) My current dvd player is over six years old. Does a dvd player that says it upconverts to 1080 improve the picture of these SD dvds? My kids have a lot of these dvds and I would like to have something to get the best performance out of them. Do you guys just use your BR player for these sd dvds, does that even work?

Sorry for all the questions. This is probably pretty basic stuff for you guys, but it's my first real HT. I bought my FP and 92 after reading these forums. Thanks for the help.
post #1298 of 1583
Hey guys, I have a question. I'm using surround back as speaker B. The speakers are in the same room but placed differently; they are my computer speakers. Thing is that I still want my subwoofer to come on with them. Can I do this? I don't want to have to wire them through the subwoofer if at all possible.
post #1299 of 1583
I just got my 94 and it is a beast. Setting up the inputs was not overly complicated, but definitely not intuitive at all.

I do not have high-end speakers in the least, that will be next years big purchase, and I am surprised by the MCACC results. The receiver set up my all my speakers as large, even though only the front are floor standers. My speakers are Yamaha 125', rated at 6 ohms, 120 W (40 W nominal), Sensitivity of 86 db, and a freq. response range of 70 Hz to 35 kHz (60 Hz on the floor standing speakers). All have 2 x 3 1/8” woofers and 7/8” tweeters. The MCACC set my crossover at 80 Hz.

Does this sound correct to anyone? I plan on experimenting a bit, but I still have so many other options to fiddle with and I was hoping for some guidance before jumping in. The sound is good – clear and crisp – but with a slight echoy/hollowish sound at times and I think the lip sync may be off just a hair (even though the speaker distances were spot on).

Thanks,
Mark
post #1300 of 1583
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Originally Posted by the Crow View Post

So do i really need a receiver like this for DTS-HD MA when i can get Bitstream thru my optical out on my blu-ray player to the receiver i have now ?

No HDM player, HD DVD or Blu can bitstream the Advanced audio codecs over either the optical or the coaxial connections. The only options are decoding within the player and outputing PCM on HDMI or analogs, or bitstreaming the undecoded data over HDMI.
post #1301 of 1583
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Originally Posted by cmarkmyers View Post

I just got my 94 and it is a beast. Setting up the inputs was not overly complicated, but definitely not intuitive at all.

I do not have high-end speakers in the least, that will be next years big purchase, and I am surprised by the MCACC results. The receiver set up my all my speakers as large, even though only the front are floor standers. My speakers are Yamaha 125', rated at 6 ohms, 120 W (40 W nominal), Sensitivity of 86 db, and a freq. response range of 70 Hz to 35 kHz (60 Hz on the floor standing speakers). All have 2 x 3 1/8” woofers and 7/8” tweeters. The MCACC set my crossover at 80 Hz.

Does this sound correct to anyone? I plan on experimenting a bit, but I still have so many other options to fiddle with and I was hoping for some guidance before jumping in. The sound is good – clear and crisp – but with a slight echoy/hollowish sound at times and I think the lip sync may be off just a hair (even though the speaker distances were spot on).

Thanks,
Mark

Just set all the speakers to small, and 80 hz is good for the crossover. THX expects 80 hz for its processing.
post #1302 of 1583
All, I just purchased a Sony XBR4 52 LCD. I need to change my receiver to match this new tv. The Magnolia High Fi sales folks recommend both the 1908 and DSX 90 for the same price. I'm a helo pilot for 35 years so hearings shot...so fine tuned sound is not as important as the receiver matching my tv re technology and hook ups etc. I plan on using my existing Bose 401s and Bose model 100 side and back speakers.

Any advice on which receiver is the best or are they equivalent.

Thanks, Alaskasar
post #1303 of 1583
Alaskasar - I listend to both and found them to be distinctly different. Even if your hearing is shot you should listen to both to see if you could tell a difference. As far as hookups, they both have about the same - 2 HDMI inputs, 3 component, 2 digital coax. The Denon has 2 digital optical inputs to the Pioneer's 3. The Denon has a XM hook up and the Pioneer has that plus an iPod input and Sirius. So definitly a slight edgue to Pioneer here (unless you have an iPod and/or Sirius radio, then it is a huge edge). Neither do Audio over HDMI.

Whichever you get make sure you have enough inputs for all your A/V needs. If you want to use a Blu-Ray player, Cable/Sat Box, and Gaming Console all with HDMI then neither of these will accept all 3 (only the 2 HDMI inputs) and you may want to wait until your budget allows for something that will take care of everything you want it to.

Also, if you like the Pioneer sound then you may want to wait for the upcoming 1018, which is cheaper than the Elite and will come with tons of inputs. That is, if you can wait until June. I have no idea if/what Denon has due in the immediate future.

Jerry - Setting the speakers to small took care of the hollow sound, and after playing the sub portion of the THX optimizer on my Pirates of the Carribean DVD I decided to bump up the crossover to 100 Hz. Everything is about as good as I can get it now and I am quite pleased. Thanks for the advice.
post #1304 of 1583
Thanks...very helpful. Unfortunately I live on an island and will be buying by internet. Alaskasar
post #1305 of 1583
Well if you can't listen before hand and if your hearing is a bit wonky from years behind the stick of you heli-vehicle then my endorsement would be for the Pioneer. It has a couple more inputs which even if you don't need today you might tomorrow. Or like I said, you could wait for the 1018 which will be cheaper and have more inputs. I am sure it won't have better sound than the Elite 90, or as many sound processing options, but it sounds like those don't matter all that much to you.
post #1306 of 1583
I am looking into getting the VSX-92TXH. Will this model matrix a 5.1 PCM signal comming from a PS3 so I can get full 7.1 HD audio? I know some other receivers can not alter a raw LPCM signal coming over HDMI. Can anyone confirm if this receiver can do that?
post #1307 of 1583
Just bought the VSX92...My god what a flippin' beast! I had a 7 year old Pioneer Rec before buying this and my god what a difference!
post #1308 of 1583
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Originally Posted by BrianEK View Post

I am looking into getting the VSX-92TXH. Will this model matrix a 5.1 PCM signal comming from a PS3 so I can get full 7.1 HD audio? I know some other receivers can not alter a raw LPCM signal coming over HDMI. Can anyone confirm if this receiver can do that?

I have an older VSX-72TXV and it can matrix a 5.1 signal into 7.1 -- the display reads "DD PLIIX MS", so I'm sure the 92 can as well. I confirmed this in the VSX-92's Operating Instructions manual (can be downloaded from Pio's web site). See page 90 for info on surround sound formats.
post #1309 of 1583
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Originally Posted by skipsterut View Post

I have an older VSX-72TXV and it can matrix a 5.1 signal into 7.1 -- the display reads "DD PLIIX MS", so I'm sure the 92 can as well. I confirmed this in the VSX-92's Operating Instructions manual (can be downloaded from Pio's web site). See page 90 for info on surround sound formats.

+1, I can also confirm. I have both the VSX-72 and have just updated to the 94 model.
post #1310 of 1583
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Originally Posted by joshbish View Post

I just tried Live Free or Die Hard and same thing --- the receiver is just displaying "DTS", so I guess I'm just getting the core. Any other ideas? I guess I'll start with exchanging the BD30 and if that doesn't fix it, then I'll exchange the receiver.

I have a 92THX and a BD30 and I have successfully got DTS MSTR to light up. On your BD30 do you have bitstream set up AND no secondary processing?
post #1311 of 1583
Is there any benefit to purchasing the IPOD Universal Docking Station other than the mounting convenience? I can hook my IPOD directly to the supplied cable, and it seems I have all screen functionality on my 92TXH using the remote. Just seems a bit expensive for $80 or so if the only benefit is as a stand. Unfortunately, the supplied Apple IPOD dock plugs in to Pioneer's cable, but does not work.
post #1312 of 1583
Tried posting this as its own thread, but someone suggested that I post it in this forum.


I had gotten a Pioneer Elite VSX-90TXV for Christmas and recently exchanged it for a VSX-91TXH since I wanted HDMI switching and the ability to convert other inputs to output over HDMI.

I just hooked up everything today and things seem okay, except for my Wii.

I have the Wii connected to the receiver via component inputs on COMP-1. The audio cables are plugged into DVR/VCR1. I set up the DVR/VCR1 input to OFF for the digital audio input and COMP-1 for the component video input. Video conversion is on.

The TV is connected to the receiver only via the HDMI out.

I switch over to the DVR/VCR1 input and start up the Wii.

First problem: Even though the Wii is configured for 16:9 widescreen, my TV displays it as if it were 4:3 ratio with panels on the side. The Wii picture looks squished.

Second problem: The TV (Philips 47PFL7422D/37) keeps losing sync. My television will switch to black with "No video" then it will go to what looks like video snow, then it goes green, then it comes back to the Wii. Then it repeats over and over.

It doesn't have any problems with HDMI sync with the TiVo connected to HDMI1 or the PS3 connected to HDMI2 in the little I tried it out.

Anyone seen this before? Any idea what is happening and if it can be resolved?
post #1313 of 1583
I saw a 92 at Best Buy as a open box item priced at $999, they say its complete with everything, even the box........Is it a good deal?
post #1314 of 1583
Offer BB 899.99 cash , my bet is they will take it.

Good luck

Gary 
post #1315 of 1583
If your subwoofer has a "phase" control knob, where should it be set at during MCACC? I'm pretty sure the receiver takes care of everything with the "standing wave" auto-cal but just in case, any opinions?
post #1316 of 1583
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Originally Posted by misterjetpilot View Post

Hi everyone,

I'm getting ready to order my 92 and the cheapest price I've found is from a company called TheCameraProfessionals.com. Does anyone know anything about them, good or bad? Their price is $789 + $25 shipping. Does anyone know of a better deal?

Also, I have a question about the player. Can anyone recommend a BR player? My projector is the JVC RS2 onto a 110" studio tek 130. Until I get a Blu ray, I would like to have something to play all of my kids dvds on (Cars, Monsters Inc., etc..) My current dvd player is over six years old. Does a dvd player that says it upconverts to 1080 improve the picture of these SD dvds? My kids have a lot of these dvds and I would like to have something to get the best performance out of them. Do you guys just use your BR player for these sd dvds, does that even work?

Sorry for all the questions. This is probably pretty basic stuff for you guys, but it's my first real HT. I bought my FP and 92 after reading these forums. Thanks for the help.


check resellerratings.com off the top of my head i think that company is a typical bait and switch company. go with nextag.com. the companys they search through have a better rating.
post #1317 of 1583
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Originally Posted by crOwcaine View Post

If your subwoofer has a "phase" control knob, where should it be set at during MCACC? I'm pretty sure the receiver takes care of everything with the "standing wave" auto-cal but just in case, any opinions?

The phase control should be in the position that gives you the most bass. The position should be set before you run the calibration routine...
post #1318 of 1583
If there is a better place to post this question, please tell me.

All of my equipment is enclosed in a glass front rack, but we have recently hung black velvet curtains framing our 110' st130 for that "theatre" look. (very cool). The part that isn't so cool is that the rack is now blocked from all IR commands.
I've started shopping for an IR repeater system and would appreciate any suggestions. I've noticed that they all use flashers that you stick on the front of your components or they use a blaster that just showers your whole stack at once. My question is (and I've never used these before) is what the heck is the IR "in" jack on the back of all these components for if we're supposed to just stick these flashers on the front? Are there systems that use these plugs instead of flashers? As usual, I got no help from my local CC or BB "expert". Am I to assume all of you guys have flashers stuck on the front of you $$$$ equipment. I would appreciate any help or suggestions.
post #1319 of 1583
does anyone know what the 2009 Elite lineup will be?
post #1320 of 1583
I have the 91 and can't seem to adjust the bass and treble manually. The manual says to press the "Tone" button and toggle w/ the knob on the unit, but when I do this the receiver just flashes and when I twist the knob nothing happens. What's going on? How can I increase the bass on my front speakers?
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