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post #1351 of 1583
Hey owners,

I'm planning on picking up a Pioneer Elite soon and I'm considering stacking a video component on top of it. It would be a comcast hd dvr, panasonic bd-30 blu ray player, or a xbox 360.

Does anybody stack things on their receiver? Any overheating problems? Would any component be any better/worse to stack?

Thanks for the help!
post #1352 of 1583
^^
No. Not a good idea! The top plate of majority of receivers provides openings and a large surface area for needed ventilation & heat dispersal. Leave at least a few inches of clearance between the rec. and a shelf with another component. Follow the directions in your manual, period!! To stack right on top of the unit means a great potential for overheating, amp shutdown, & premature electronics parts failure.
post #1353 of 1583
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Originally Posted by ss9001 View Post

^^
No. Not a good idea! The top plate of majority of receivers provides openings and a large surface area for needed ventilation & heat dispersal. Leave at least a few inches of clearance between the rec. and a shelf with another component. Follow the directions in your manual, period!! To stack right on top of the unit means a great potential for overheating, amp shutdown, & premature electronics parts failure.

+1+1+1 to that!
post #1354 of 1583
Hey guys,

I'm thinking about ordering a Pioneer Elite from butterflyphoto through amazon in order to get a good price and the financing that I want...

Has anybody ordered through butterflyphoto? Any problems/concerns about doing this? I know that they are not an authorized Pioneer Elite dealer, but I'm honestly not too worried about not having the manufacturer's warranty. Pioneer Elite's have outstanding reliability. As long as it's a brand new unit in the factory packaging I think I'm down.

I'd really appreciate some feedback and advice. PM me if you do not feel comfortable posting or don't feel it is appropriate for the forum.
post #1355 of 1583
Upgraded from the 82TXS to the 94TXH, in order to get TrueHD and DTS-MA, very happy with the unit overall.

However, MCACC seems to want to set my sub (SVS PB12-NSD/2) pretty hot vs. the rest of my system. The 82TXS seems to have set it in a more balanced fashion. Seems to be the same mic.

(I use a Velodyne SMS-1 parametric EQ in front of my sub and REW and a laptop/soundcard combo to look at and adjust my curve...)

While it's easy to just lower the sub about 5.0 via the remote to get it balanced again, was just curious what everyone elses experience was with MCACC...

J
post #1356 of 1583
Hello, I have a few questions about the VSX-94TXH;

1. Can you get firmware upgrades through the ethernet port?

2. Does this receiver decode Dolby Digital +?

3. Does it support all HDMI 1.3 Video features compatible with an XBR4? (Deep Color, 1080/24p, 10-bit video processing, x.v. color, Motionflow 120khz, etc.)

4. After the PS3 decodes the HD audio into LPCM does/can this receiver apply additional processing such as one of the THX processing modes before sending the signal out to the speakers or does it just pass the signal along?

5. Does this receiver matrix 5.1 soundtracks from both music and movies into 7.1 compatible audio?

6. Does this receiver have any known PS3 handshaking/compatibility issues?

7. Has anyone experienced the THX Neural processing featured on the 92/94's? It's supposed to be the ultimate 7.1 surround experience with games and movies, just wondering if the hype is constituted?

Thanks for any insight into this issue, I am getting within a few days of the purchase date and I really need to narrow this search down. THANKS!!!
post #1357 of 1583
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Originally Posted by Jarin View Post

Upgraded from the 82TXS to the 94TXH, in order to get TrueHD and DTS-MA, very happy with the unit overall.

However, MCACC seems to want to set my sub (SVS PB12-NSD/2) pretty hot vs. the rest of my system. The 82TXS seems to have set it in a more balanced fashion. Seems to be the same mic.

(I use a Velodyne SMS-1 parametric EQ in front of my sub and REW and a laptop/soundcard combo to look at and adjust my curve...)

While it's easy to just lower the sub about 5.0 via the remote to get it balanced again, was just curious what everyone elses experience was with MCACC...

J

I use the auto MCACC for general settings then use manual MCACC for fine tuning. For example the auto settings didn't make my center speaker loud enough to hear dialog clearly. That may be because of the compatibility of my speakers, nice main, cheap center or I'm just getting old and my hearing is going. In any case I believe the auto MCACC does a nice job for general settings, and may be perfect for some, but you may have to make adjustments for personal taste.
post #1358 of 1583
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Originally Posted by bostonbean View Post

I use the auto MCACC for general settings then use manual MCACC for fine tuning. For example the auto settings didn't make my center speaker loud enough to hear dialog clearly. That may be because of the compatibility of my speakers, nice main, cheap center or I'm just getting old and my hearing is going. In any case I believe the auto MCACC does a nice job for general settings, and may be perfect for some, but you may have to make adjustments for personal taste.

Agreed, was just looking for other user comments with this particular unit.

Actually, I almost always have to bump my center too with this unit (not so much as with the 82TXS), and it's timbre/speaker-matched to my mains...

J
post #1359 of 1583
Has anyone played DTS-HD MA 7.1 on Pan's Labyrinth on HD DVD or BD? My receiver is Pioneer 9120TXH (similar to 91TXH), player is LG BH200 combo.

I played the HD DVD, interestingly the beginning part (High Definition) before Menu is shown 7.1 source on receiver and BH200 also shows 7.1, however the movie itself is shown 5.1 source on receiver while BH200 shows 7.1. Anyone has the same issue?
post #1360 of 1583
Quick question with probably quite a complicated answer.

I am getting a full set of 5.1 speakers in mid June and need a quality AVR.

I am debating between a Denon 3808CI and the Pioneer Elite 94.

Any comments and/or opinions on pros/cons of each?

One dealer I respect and trust feels I should get the Pioneer because I'm already getting a 151FD Kuro and also because he thinks the Denons are a bit overpriced.

Thoughts?

Dennis
post #1361 of 1583
Quote:
Originally Posted by TehLeetFanboy View Post

Hello, I have a few questions about the VSX-94TXH;

1. Can you get firmware upgrades through the ethernet port?

2. Does this receiver decode Dolby Digital +?

3. Does it support all HDMI 1.3 Video features compatible with an XBR4? (Deep Color, 1080/24p, 10-bit video processing, x.v. color, Motionflow 120khz, etc.)

4. After the PS3 decodes the HD audio into LPCM does/can this receiver apply additional processing such as one of the THX processing modes before sending the signal out to the speakers or does it just pass the signal along?

5. Does this receiver matrix 5.1 soundtracks from both music and movies into 7.1 compatible audio?

6. Does this receiver have any known PS3 handshaking/compatibility issues?

7. Has anyone experienced the THX Neural processing featured on the 92/94's? It's supposed to be the ultimate 7.1 surround experience with games and movies, just wondering if the hype is constituted?

Thanks for any insight into this issue, I am getting within a few days of the purchase date and I really need to narrow this search down. THANKS!!!

about half of what your asking/concerned about has zero real life application at this time. Why do you need the 94? You mention a TV but no speakers? Why would you want to add "dsp" to lossless hd audio?

start here http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/r...neer-vsx-94txh
post #1362 of 1583
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Originally Posted by dfchang View Post

I am debating between a Denon 3808CI and the Pioneer Elite 94.

Any comments and/or opinions on pros/cons of each?

One dealer I respect and trust feels I should get the Pioneer because I'm already getting a 151FD Kuro and also because he thinks the Denons are a bit overpriced.

Thoughts?

Dennis

Thought: Save some money and get a 2808 or 92 or 91.
post #1363 of 1583
Has anyone heard when Pio will be announcing/releasing the next line of Elite AVRs after the 9X series?
post #1364 of 1583
They already have. Check this forum for the info... the 94 will be staying, but they have four new ones.
post #1365 of 1583
Does anyone know if there is a brick and mortar forum sponsor in the Syracuse / Albany / Newburgh New York area? I'm going on a weekend trip and am thinking of coming back to Canada with a new receiver
post #1366 of 1583
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Originally Posted by bgillyjcu View Post

Is the difference between the 91 and the 92 really only the Video Up-Scaling?

I am just going to be running 2 HDMI cables in and 1 out.

IN is my ps3 and my HD Cable box.

OUT to my projector.

Is the 91 the better choice for me knowing I don't need any video upscaling? I just want HD AUDIO and 100% pure pass through of FULL HDMI video.

Why would I need to step up to the 92?

PS...where can i get a 91 or 92 VERY CHEAP!! PM me if you have a good trustable site!

tweeter.com VSX-92TXH on sale thru Memorial Day!
post #1367 of 1583
hi all,

shopping for either a 92 or 94 with a target date of mid-June (ala IRS rebate).

as i have read much of this thread and also done other research, it seems that the only real difference between the 92 and 94 that i am concerned about is the presence or lack of ethernet connection.

i can use the USB inputs on my PS3 or my Pioneer 5070 plasma so that doesn't matter to me. also the wattage difference is moot, as i will be powering the front stage with a seperate amp (B&K), and both the 92 and 94 seem to have plenty of juice to run the surrounds, especially since the internal amp won't be working to power the fronts.

so, my question is, how many of you here have utilized the ethernet capabilty of the 94, and what is the consensus on it's usefulness?

i do have quite a bit of music in m4a (apple lossless) on my laptop, and we have a wireless network in the house, so i was thinking it would be nice to be able to connect the 94 to my router and wirelessly stream music from my laptop.

has anyone used a similar setup, and if so, how well does it work? what kind of audio quality are you getting?

thanks in advance for any and all replies!

-d
post #1368 of 1583
PLEAS HELP!

Well I've had my VSX-94TXH receiver for about 6 or 7 months now and I am very happy with it. BUT i just recently ran into a problem!!! My HDMI input 1 is not working at all! I tried hooking up other components and different cables. Its been working fine every since I first bought it. Last night I did some major wire clean up and untangled every wire back there and then I set everything up and now HDMI 1 is not working. Could it be something broke on the inside of the input? Or could it be it just died out on me? I do notice that that input seems to be the most loose when I stick a HDMI cable in it compared to the others. When I put the HDMI cable in the other inputs it kinda snaps in but in this one it feels very loose and doesn't snap in at all. Any advice? Would I have to send it out to Pioneer? I really don't wanna wait 2-3 weeks for them to fix it! I need my receiver!

Thanks
post #1369 of 1583
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Originally Posted by donovanhebard View Post

hi all,

shopping for either a 92 or 94 with a target date of mid-June (ala IRS rebate).

as i have read much of this thread and also done other research, it seems that the only real difference between the 92 and 94 that i am concerned about is the presence or lack of ethernet connection.

i can use the USB inputs on my PS3 or my Pioneer 5070 plasma so that doesn't matter to me. also the wattage difference is moot, as i will be powering the front stage with a seperate amp (B&K), and both the 92 and 94 seem to have plenty of juice to run the surrounds, especially since the internal amp won't be working to power the fronts.

so, my question is, how many of you here have utilized the ethernet capabilty of the 94, and what is the consensus on it's usefulness?

i do have quite a bit of music in m4a (apple lossless) on my laptop, and we have a wireless network in the house, so i was thinking it would be nice to be able to connect the 94 to my router and wirelessly stream music from my laptop.

has anyone used a similar setup, and if so, how well does it work? what kind of audio quality are you getting?

thanks in advance for any and all replies!

-d

Great question. I have been wondering the same thing. I hope you get some replies. Anyone???
post #1370 of 1583
I have the VSX-94TXH receiver and I am having problems running Dolby TrueHD with my receiver. I am playing National treasure 2 via my PS3 using Bitstream via HDMI. In the BD disc set up menu I have set it to Dolby True HD. On the VSX-94TXH i cannot get the DolbyTrueHD icon to display on the screen. I have tried every setting possible. How do i get this to work?
post #1371 of 1583
Quote:
Originally Posted by ibis View Post

I have the VSX-94TXH receiver and I am having problems running Dolby TrueHD with my receiver. I am playing National treasure 2 via my PS3 using Bitstream via HDMI. In the BD disc set up menu I have set it to Dolby True HD. On the VSX-94TXH i cannot get the DolbyTrueHD icon to display on the screen. I have tried every setting possible. How do i get this to work?

The PS3 doesn't bitstream the lossless formats, but is does decode it and send via PCM. So you want it set to PCM not bitstream on the PS3 and it will show up as PCM on the receiver. The only way to have TruHD show up on the receiver is to have a standalone player that bitstreams the formats.
post #1372 of 1583
Hey all, are there any issues with the 92txh with passing btb and wtw? Any black crush issues when upconverting from component source to the hdmi out? I will mostly be using this as an hdmi switch and want the best possible video along with the newer BR codecs. Thanks in advance.
post #1373 of 1583
Quote:
Originally Posted by donovanhebard View Post

hi all,

shopping for either a 92 or 94 with a target date of mid-June (ala IRS rebate).

as i have read much of this thread and also done other research, it seems that the only real difference between the 92 and 94 that i am concerned about is the presence or lack of ethernet connection.

i can use the USB inputs on my PS3 or my Pioneer 5070 plasma so that doesn't matter to me. also the wattage difference is moot, as i will be powering the front stage with a seperate amp (B&K), and both the 92 and 94 seem to have plenty of juice to run the surrounds, especially since the internal amp won't be working to power the fronts.

so, my question is, how many of you here have utilized the ethernet capabilty of the 94, and what is the consensus on it's usefulness?

i do have quite a bit of music in m4a (apple lossless) on my laptop, and we have a wireless network in the house, so i was thinking it would be nice to be able to connect the 94 to my router and wirelessly stream music from my laptop.

has anyone used a similar setup, and if so, how well does it work? what kind of audio quality are you getting?

thanks in advance for any and all replies!

-d

anyone?

-d
post #1374 of 1583
slow, and slow.... the new models are addressing this. i feed mine through hmg on the 1150 display and its about the same

better off with the ps3 or another device doing it
post #1375 of 1583
Quote:
Originally Posted by bandphan View Post

slow, and slow.... the new models are addressing this. i feed mine through hmg on the 1150 display and its about the same

better off with the ps3 or another device doing it

thanks bandphan! this is VERY helpful as i can get a 92 instead of a 94 and save myself $300! as you suggest, i will use my PS3 for streaming of music and video instead, then go straight from the hdmi on the PS3 to the 92.

of course the only rub now is that as i understand it there's still no way to effectively stream m4a apple lossless music files from a pc to the PS3, at least not without transcoding and an extra layer of rather clunky software.

-d
post #1376 of 1583
Im interested in upgrading to either the 92 or 94txh. My 2 front speakers each have 15 subwoofers in them, so with my current receiver I have 2 subs connected to the Preouts.

The 92 and 94 receiver only has one sub preout. Would a Y-splitter work for this, and is there any drawback to doing this(loss in quality or overheating)?
post #1377 of 1583
It will work just fine with no negative effects what so ever. No loose in sound quality, overheating or anything else. Your just splitting the signal.
post #1378 of 1583
Thank you for your quick reply Legairre
post #1379 of 1583
Has anybody been able to find a local (non Pioneer) SR+ cable? I saw someone purchased one from radio shack and they said it works but I am not sure which one to purchase. Thanks!
post #1380 of 1583
Can anyone offer any suggestions? I've had my Elite 84 for about 2 years with no problems and loved it.

All of a sudden today (for no apparent reason) it keeps shutting itself off after only being on for a few seconds. After it turns off the "Phase Control" red light is blinking even though the receiver is off.

This happens whether my projector is turned on or not and no matter what source I select. The only time it didn't turn off right away was on Tuner, but that might have been a coincidence?

I'm hoping this is a simple fix as I really don't want to get a new receiver right now!

FYI, the unit is on the top of a shelf and has plenty of ventilation around it and does not feel even mildly warm when it is shutting off.

Thanks!
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