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post #61 of 4325
i saw this tv in person it does look amazing compared too the panasonic TH-50pz700u the sammy puts the panny to shame , and yes we are talking about the Samsung FP-T5084
alto their seems to be a big confusion in many online retailers and researched info as that the Samsung HP-T5084 is exactly as the Samsung FP-T5084 so only diffrense is H / F

im suprised theirs no reviews or anything it been out for a while
post #62 of 4325
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Originally Posted by gus738 View Post

i saw this tv in person it does look amazing compared too the panasonic TH-50pz700u the sammy puts the panny to shame , and yes we are talking about the Samsung FP-T5084
alto their seems to be a big confusion in many online retailers and researched info as that the Samsung HP-T5084 is exactly as the Samsung FP-T5084 so only diffrense is H / F

im suprised theirs no reviews or anything it been out for a while

I agree. I saw the 5084 next to the Panny 700U yesterday and the 5084 was a clear winner. I can't wait to read a review.
post #63 of 4325
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Originally Posted by bgates22 View Post

I agree. I saw the 5084 next to the Panny 700U yesterday and the 5084 was a clear winner. I can't wait to read a review.

can you take any pictures to compare them ?
thank you
post #64 of 4325
Amazing with the price drop the 5084 had it is priced exactlly about the same as the 50PZ700U making the choice even harder.
post #65 of 4325
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Originally Posted by ANTHONY06 View Post

can you take any pictures to compare them ?
thank you

I had to take a looong lunch break to drive to Sears and see them. I likely won't be back there. I'm waiting for the Circuit City (which is 5 blocks away from my apartment in Manhattan) to stock the 5084 (they already have the 700U). Once Circuit City gets them, I can take a picture.

Other than the plastic on the frame looking cheaper on the Samsung compared with the 700U (the plastic on the Samsung looked like it had waves and didn't look completely flat), I liked the physical design of the Samsung much better. The top part of the frame is very narrow and the tv has a very low profile, which makes it look streamlined and unobtrusive. Also, I loved the Samsung's stand. The rectangular stand juxtaposed against the rectangular frame is visually appealling.

The HD content on the Samsung looked fantastic. I would love to see it running standard definition programming to see how it handles that.
post #66 of 4325
Well, the Circuit City near my apartment just put a 5084 on display. They had "Happy Feet" playing off of a Blu-ray disk. My first response was "wow." I was talking to the worker at Circuit City and he said all the workers there had the same reaction when they turned on the tv. That Circuit City also has a 700U on display and it just looks dull in comparison. Mind you, I've seen the 700U in 3 different places and while I think it's a solid tv, it just doesn't provide the "wow" factor. I'm waiting for at least a couple of reviews of the 5084, but I'm pretty eager to purchase one now that I've seen it in action in 2 different stores.

The great thing about the 5084 is that because the frame is so sleek, the 50" set actually looks fairly small. In other words, I don't think the tv will overwhelm my living room.
post #67 of 4325
I'm curious to know if this 5084 has the same 'judder' issue that I've been reading about in the 54/64 thread. If someone happens to see a 5084 in a store, ask if they can change the channel to something with a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen. Look closely and see if the ticker skips a beat every 4-5 seconds. Even though it may not be 'that' big a deal, for a $3k tv it would probably be a dealbreaker for me.
post #68 of 4325
to the people that have seen this set in person do you think the black levels are as good as the samsung 65 lcd series??
post #69 of 4325
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Originally Posted by jasonviper04 View Post

to the people that have seen this set in person do you think the black levels are as good as the samsung 65 lcd series??

Put is this way: I can't imagine the black levels being any better than they are on the 5084. For the past month, CC had "Happy Feet" running on the 46" Samsung 1080p LCD, and I thought it looked unbelievable on that, with the exception of significant amounts of glare. On the 5084, "Happy Feet" looked just as incredible (same black levels) and the glare was MUCH less on the 5084. Even so, I was amazed at the brightness of the 5084.
post #70 of 4325
thanks that is good to know.^
post #71 of 4325
How does the Samsung 5084 compare to the new Pioneer 5080?
post #72 of 4325
i am going to check with my local stores again on saturday
post #73 of 4325
Are you guys talking about the CC in Union Square? When I stopped by they were playing "Night at the Museum" with Ben Stiller on Blu-Ray on the 5084. Not the best movie to show off the picture quality of this TV. I'm eager to read a review somewhere on the internets. I'm trying to decide between this TV and the LCD 4665/4661 series. Glare is an issue for me, so I might end up going with the 4661.
post #74 of 4325
Ditto! I would like to know too.

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Originally Posted by Tag66 View Post

I'm curious to know if this 5084 has the same 'judder' issue that I've been reading about in the 54/64 thread. If someone happens to see a 5084 in a store, ask if they can change the channel to something with a scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen. Look closely and see if the ticker skips a beat every 4-5 seconds. Even though it may not be 'that' big a deal, for a $3k tv it would probably be a dealbreaker for me.
post #75 of 4325
Very interested in this set - please post links to any reviews you see, etc.!
post #76 of 4325
yeah i'm hoping cnet will take a look at this set in the next month.
post #77 of 4325
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Amazing with the price drop the 5084 had it is priced exactlly about the same as the 50PZ700U making the choice even harder.

Chris have you seen the new sammy in action and if so, how does it compare to the new panny 700u, cuz im returning my 700u and may be getting the sammy.
post #78 of 4325
Is anyone familiar with the burn in possibilities of this tv. Is there any new technology on this tv that prevents the burn in.

matt
post #79 of 4325
it's supposed to have anti burn-in tech, but they all should be pretty good now.
post #80 of 4325
I think my store must have gotten a dud set. We put the sony BDPS1 on it with POTC DMC and it looks grainy as heck with the skin tones way off. I have the same setup at home except with the sony 46xbr3 lcd and my setup looks a million times better. I am a plasma fan and was hoping for the best out of this tv but it just isn't that great in my eyes. From my experience so far the Panny 700U is the best consumer display I have seen yet
post #81 of 4325
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Originally Posted by bokes View Post

How does the Samsung 5084 compare to the new Pioneer 5080?

I saw the new Sammy 5084 at BB , they had it right next to the new Pio 5080 and the picture was equal if not better, I really don't get all this Pio Kuru stuff "better blacks thing", the blacks where equal, real good but not close to CRT quality. They also had the Panny 700u playing a bluray loop and the picture looked smooth vibrant with a nice punch to it, the processing to me compared to the Sammy or Pio seemed a bit better. All these sets are good PDP's and you can't go wrong with any of them, and to the earlier poster saying that the 5080 was miles ahead of the 700U should get his eyes checked, and put his Fanboyism in check, I am NOT a FANBOY like most posters in here "since I do not own any stock in any of these companies" I could care less, I tell it like my eye see it, and my 20/20 vision says Pio is again hyping the crap out of their sets, to justify their ludicrous pricing, peace.
post #82 of 4325
^^^^ I agree. Do not get me wrong, I think the Pioneer PDP-5080HD is a great set that is 720P. Compared the PDP-5080HD unit to the 700U and the 5084 and they are all about the same, AWSOME !! The 5080 will not take a person into the future like the 1080P units will and they are about the same price .

When 1080P is just about the same price as 720P, I'll take it for just about free everytime !!


Last note: The Pioneer PDP-5080HD is $1000 more overall delivered on the street compared to the Panasonic TH-50PX600U, both 720P sets. The Pioneer PDP-PDP-507CMX monitor is $1100 less on the street too

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Originally Posted by Techtonic View Post

Chris have you seen the new sammy in action and if so, how does it compare to the new panny 700u, cuz im returning my 700u and may be getting the sammy.

Samsung makes a great set. Very similar to the 700U. Seems to have a tad bit more color pop.
post #83 of 4325
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^^ I agree. Do not get me wrong, I think the Pioneer PDP-5080HD is a great set that is 720P. Compared the PDP-5080HD unit to the 700U and the 5084 and they are all about the same, AWSOME !! The 5080 will not take a person into the future like the 1080P units will and they are about the same price .

When 1080P is just about the same price as 720P, I'll take it for just about free everytime !!


Last note: The Pioneer PDP-5080HD is $1000 more overall delivered on the street compared to the Panasonic TH-50PX600U, both 720P sets


Samsung makes a great set. Very similar to the 700U. Seems to have a tad bit more color pop.

Thanks for your insight Chris, this is making my decision that much easier to make.
post #84 of 4325
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^^ I agree. Compared the PDP-5080HD unit to the 700U and the 5084 and they are all about the same.

Maybe i look different, but I think the Pio is much better in dark objects detailling.
post #85 of 4325
Once someone gets this TV in hand- I would like to hear feedback on SD quality.
I read the processing of the 1080p sets makes for a horrible SD image.

The Samsung 5084 has been on my radar since March. I was waiting on the 5084 to be released- but after hearing a rumour that it was delayed and wouldn't be out until Sept/Oct- I went for the Pioneer 5080 (for much less $$) No regrets-
Still- I am a little worried to go check out the Samsung since 1080p would have allowed me closer viewing options.
post #86 of 4325
Best Buy and Circuit City in my area both have this TV, although BB doesn't have one on display yet.

I saw it yesterday (at CC obv) and it (5084) looked comparable to the Panny 700u - although it's possible that the Panny had a slight edge. I debated buying, but I wanted to wait to make sure there are no widespread problems with these sets since there are with the latest Samsung LCDs (HDMI problems, which I don't believe are inherently linked to the LCD tech, hence my concern).

I'll be following this set closely, because (as I've mentioned ad infinitum) the Panny does not support 1080p over VGA. The Panny also has a disappointing 2 HDMI ports, btw.
post #87 of 4325
By the way, prices for these sets (and all HDTVs) are in a freefall at the moment; great time to be a buyer! Many stores, including BB, will negotiate on price (I have done this). The *lowest* price will often be some place on the net you've never heard of with a terrible resellerratings.com score (if any), but there should be no problem talking BB or CC down to, say, Amazon's price.

And make sure you know what kind of 30-day, etc. price guarantee whoever you buy from offers, because at the rate prices are moving you will almost certainly have some money coming to you - make sure you know the terms and how you have to contact them to take advantage of that!
post #88 of 4325
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Originally Posted by bgates22 View Post

...That Circuit City also has a 700U on display and it just looks dull in comparison. Mind you, I've seen the 700U in 3 different places and while I think it's a solid tv, it just doesn't provide the "wow" factor.

Considering that proper caliberation can make a lot of difference at individual home settings and that those TV's on display are probably not set up properly, I stopped giving any importance to the PQ on the retailer's showroom and instead compare the physical aspects of the TVs side by side.

I am still torn between Sammy's new LCDs (4065) and the new plasmas by both Sammy and Panny. God knows when I will pull the trigger...
post #89 of 4325
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Originally Posted by NYCPatsfan View Post

I am still torn between Sammy's new LCDs (4065) and the new plasmas by both Sammy and Panny. God knows when I will pull the trigger...

I'm in exactly the same boat. Waiting for 5084 reviews with bated breath here.
post #90 of 4325
The 5084 has pixel shift which is supposed to be burn-in resistant. However, I just saw this tv on display at Circuit City, and it showed severe burn-in. I spoke to to the sales rep there about the burn-in. He told me some jackass left the dvd player on pause all day. So, burn-in is still a factor.
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