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post #181 of 486
My Sony set has the split screen option.

I admit that after trying it out the 1st week I had the set, I've never used it again.
post #182 of 486
Split screen or PaP is a VERY important feature if you live in Los Angeles (which I do). When there is a freeway car chase you can get TWO helicopter views from two different stations! It is critical here! I really do!

It is AMAZING how many features were removed from the new 734 from last years 732 compared to what they added. It's sad, 2 steps forward 5 steps back.
post #183 of 486
post #184 of 486
I hope the 833 has this feature or I will have to consider something else. I have used it while watching something and someone else playing the PS2 or going through the draft and free agency on Madden.
But mostly I use it a lot during the NFL season I can watch both games at the same time.
post #185 of 486
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Originally Posted by SGRSBSKIER View Post

I hope the 833 has this feature or I will have to consider something else. I have used it while watching something and someone else playing the PS2 or going through the draft and free agency on Madden.
But mostly I use it a lot during the NFL season I can watch both games at the same time.

looks like the 833 will have split screen with second aux source.
post #186 of 486
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Originally Posted by mr stroke View Post

I ended up taking mine back too, I tried listing to the one in the store but its so noisey in there you can't here anything...I just can't see this being a problem with ALL dlp's because my old one sounded fine, but I don't want to go through any more exhanges again so smaller plasma it is I guess

I noticed the noise too. I think the frequency makes it worse- it being high pitched.

But-- I put a sofa pillow on the right, and left behind the tv. These fit between the back of the set and the wall. The noise dropped significantly- and there is still ample air flow from bottom to top (heat rises anyway). I think I can live with the noise now. The picture is great- excellent black level compared to my LCD projection Sony.

You can't find out about noise in a store- and these sets are so big it's a hassle to exchange them... plus my HD Tivo makes noise-- I think it worth a try muffling the sound before dumping the set. John
post #187 of 486
I have a 65733 that has the screech. I wonder if the fact that I have wood floors contributes to the sound? Mitsubishi is sending out a repair person today to have a look (Listen).

I will report what they have to say.


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Edited to say,

The guy just left. He said that he heard a bit of a noise, but it was normal. Mitsubishi has not had any reports of the problem.

I guess that I just need to take the TV back. I am quite sad, it was the best picture I have yet seen.
post #188 of 486
Uh oh. I'm having my 65734 delivered today and I hope the problems don't come along with it.

I though it seemed to good to be true.....a brand new model for less than last years models.

I will have to listen out for the humming sound and the split screen doesn't really bother me that much. I had pip on my old tv (of 8 years)and can count the times I used it on one hand. Also I think Dish Network has a feature that will allow you to do a split screen if your using the DVR that controls 2 tvs.

I will check tonight.
post #189 of 486
If anyone is hearing the sound, please let us know if you have wood floors, stone, tile or carpet.

Just to make clear from my last post, I have wood.

Thanks.
post #190 of 486
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Originally Posted by steinfire View Post

Uh oh. I'm having my 65734 delivered today and I hope the problems don't come along with it.

I though it seemed to good to be true.....a brand new model for less than last years models.

I will have to listen out for the humming sound and the split screen doesn't really bother me that much. I had pip on my old tv (of 8 years)and can count the times I used it on one hand. Also I think Dish Network has a feature that will allow you to do a split screen if your using the DVR that controls 2 tvs.

I will check tonight.

I didn't read any 734 owners having the problem. The majority of the problems with noise I've heard are coming from the 733 owners.

I started a new thread here specfically for 734 owners if you want to post your findings there when you get your new set it will be helpful.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=866494
post #191 of 486
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Originally Posted by Ralf the Dog View Post

If anyone is hearing the sound, please let us know if you have wood floors, stone, tile or carpet.

Just to make clear from my last post, I have wood.

Thanks.

I heard the whine such that it bothered me- with carpet- until I put pillows to the right and left. I think I'll make this more permanent by putting in foam that will go tight to the back of the TV and against the wall- again right and left.


Sound waves diminish greatly when they can't reflect on something hard- and when not "line of sight"... so some other ideas would be

1. metal dryer ducting- make a 90 degree elbow blowing down??

2. pulling the TV away from the wall- or putting carpet or foam on the back wall

3. of course- you probably wouldn't hear it if this were in "AV furniture"

4. if on wood or tile- absolutely putting something on the floor like a welcome matt

I just checked what else is available on Amazon though, near this price and size, and there doesn't seem to be a good substitute. Perhaps the Samsung HLT6187S LED DLP- but it is smaller (61")-- ?? It'd be nice if we could work this out.
post #192 of 486
My TV is too far back from the wall to get a pillow to sit behind it. I will try something on a temporary basis just to see if it works. I like your idea of sitting the TV on a rubber mat to insulate it from the furniture.

I guess that I could hide some strange carpet sculpture behind my TV. Do you think that stacking a bunch of cat condos would help?
post #193 of 486
Well, after another night and morning of experimenting- I've decided I don't want to live with this. The pillows can't be a good long term solution. I called Mitsubishi- "do a reset" or call for service. Instead- I called Amazon- which remains a spectacular company. They're coming after it- and giving me a full refund.

The picture is gorgeous and big- but I think I'll look at that LED Samsung one more time and buy it instead. Except for a fan- its completely quiet. Anyway best of luck to you guys... the set is mostly great... with just one flaw I can't live with. John
post #194 of 486
I know this is for the 733 owners but I just had the 734 delivered last night and I noticed a sight humming noise with the volume turned all the way down but cannot here it when the tv is even at a low volume(carpet floors). I went to the back of the tv where the fan is and could hear it more but since I casnnot hear it when the tv is turned up above 5 I don't think it will bother me.

By the way the picture is outstanding.
post #195 of 486
Any further word, or explanation of how it works of the Smooth120Hz feature?
post #196 of 486
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Originally Posted by LesMoss View Post

Do these new sets accept Dolbly Digital 5.1 on the HDMI inputs? If so, do they swich it out to the Digital Audio output?

Since I didn't see this questions answered yet, I would also like to know if anyone has any thoughts on if the sets can output 5.1 audio from an HDMI input.
post #197 of 486
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Originally Posted by bgartz View Post

Since I didn't see this questions answered yet, I would also like to know if anyone has any thoughts on if the sets can output 5.1 audio from an HDMI input.

This is a good question. Their spec sheet doesn't mention it and last years model did not support it.
I checked their website, but they don't have the manual posted yet, so the only way to know is to try.
...but even if it works for 1 device, doesnt mean it will always work for that device or on all devices.
post #198 of 486
what can I do to see if it will accept the 5.1?


I have it hooked up to my DVD player through HDMI and the dvd player does not have a coaxial input so I'm running a optical cable from the dvd player to the reciever. I also have a coaxial cable running from the tv set to the reciever.

When I play movies on the HD-DVD player they sound good but for some reasons the volume needs to be turned up more than with mt SD-DVDs. The reciever says dd and dts on it but it just sounds weaker.
post #199 of 486
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Originally Posted by steinfire View Post

what can I do to see if it will accept the 5.1?


I have it hooked up to my DVD player through HDMI and the dvd player does not have a coaxial input so I'm running a optical cable from the dvd player to the reciever. I also have a coaxial cable running from the tv set to the reciever.

When I play movies on the HD-DVD player they sound good but for some reasons the volume needs to be turned up more than with mt SD-DVDs. The reciever says dd and dts on it but it just sounds weaker.

If you are running a cable from the AC3 output (orange) to your reciever and it is reporting DD then that means it can output 5.1 from the HDMI source.
post #200 of 486
Well, if anyone in SoCal is interested in the 65733, you might want to take a look at Frys. They have this set for A LOT cheaper than I've seen it anywhere else. The price is good until 7/3. Also, I went to Best Buy and was able to have them price match, plus 10 percent of the difference, plus 36 months no interest financing, plus the RewardZone points. I think I made out okay on this one (actually, I think I did pretty freakin' good). Now I just have to wait until Thursday for delivery!
post #201 of 486
Is anyone still having noise issues with the 65733?

When I was at Best Buy purchasing my set, they had a 65733 on display, and I got right up next to it, walked behind it, put my ear up to it and couldn't hear anything in particular. The store was a little noisy, but I would think that if there was a problem with the noise I would have still heard it due to my proximity to the set.
post #202 of 486
I returned the Mits 65733 for the toshiba because of the whining noise that is unbearable. Hard to believe for a set of this price range. I am sitting 9' away. So when on a AV stand with the already built in stand the mits sits too high. It makes the screen look more square. I got the toshiba 65hm167 that I am overall happy with. The picture was much better on the mits and I saw no sse. I can see the SSE on the toshiba however. The Toshiba sits more flush with the stand and is aesthetically more pleasing. The screen seems wider because it is not as high. It is 2 inches lower and that seems to make the difference. I would have liked to keep the mits but with the height problem and whining noise that is not acceptable. The colors on the mits seemed more real and vibrant compared with the toshiba which seems more dull. I am hoping that professional calibration will improve the picture. Not that the toshiba is bad in any way. It is very good but just not as good as the mitsubishi 65733.
post #203 of 486
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Originally Posted by RMLewis View Post

Is anyone still having noise issues with the 65733?

When I was at Best Buy purchasing my set, they had a 65733 on display, and I got right up next to it, walked behind it, put my ear up to it and couldn't hear anything in particular. The store was a little noisy, but I would think that if there was a problem with the noise I would have still heard it due to my proximity to the set.

My 65733 is being picked up to go back to Amazon today because of that whining noise... I'm getting the Samsung LED DLP.

I share your frustration RM. I went to Best Buy to see if their display whined. It did- but I had to get *behind* the set to hear it. At home, it's a completely different story. At 11' away- I hear that color wheel spin up, and grow fatiqued until I turn the set off. Turning it off, I hear the wheel spin down. But with all the noise at a Best Buy- plus the fact the set is in a warehouse like setting- I wouldn't have discovered this there.

Maybe it won't bother you- but I couldn't live with it. (I also returned a refrig a few years ago because it was too noisy too... noise pollution is a gripe of mine). John
post #204 of 486
Last Friday night, we took delivery of a 65734. After setting it up, I did notice a whining noise. The next morning, it was very noticeable -- so much so that my wife and I talked about returning it. We talked with our salesperson (at HH Gregg), and she suggested waiting a week or so to see if the sound goes away.

Much to my amazement, by Monday, the sound has subsided to the point to where it is almost imperceptible even when the house is completely quiet. It is analogous to the sound that the flyback transformers make in CRTs. Overall, we are extremely happy with the 734
post #205 of 486
Can anyone tell me if the 733 and/or the 734 will allow you to see closed captions via component and hdmi? I have a DishNetwork 622 receiver that is hooked up to my Hitachi via hdmi converted with adapter to the Hitachi's dvi input. I have no problem seeing CCs with this set up as I have the captions enabled on the 622. I am wondering if these Mits models will display them the same way.
post #206 of 486
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Originally Posted by milacqua View Post

Can anyone tell me if the 733 and/or the 734 will allow you to see closed captions via component and hdmi? I have a DishNetwork 622 receiver that is hooked up to my Hitachi via hdmi converted with adapter to the Hitachi's dvi input. I have no problem seeing CCs with this set up as I have the captions enabled on the 622. I am wondering if these Mits models will display them the same way.

NO
post #207 of 486
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Originally Posted by milacqua View Post

Can anyone tell me if the 733 and/or the 734 will allow you to see closed captions via component and hdmi? ...

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Originally Posted by trapperjohnMD View Post

NO

Actually if you have your satellite receiver or your cable box generate the Closed Captions, then you should have no problem. If you are viewing the content from your box via component/HDMI and expect to be able to turn on the CC on your TV and view them, then you will see nothing. The CC relies on a tuner to be able to decode and display the captioning. When you view the content via the component, the TV is not doing the tuning, therefore, there is nothing for the TV to decode and display. However, if you turn on CC on your set top box, it will decode the CC and display it on the signal being transmitted to your 733 or 734 (or any other set) via component or HDMI.
post #208 of 486
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Originally Posted by Mavic914 View Post

Actually if you have your satellite receiver or your cable box generate the Closed Captions, then you should have no problem. If you are viewing the content from your box via component/HDMI and expect to be able to turn on the CC on your TV and view them, then you will see nothing. The CC relies on a tuner to be able to decode and display the captioning. When you view the content via the component, the TV is not doing the “tuning”, therefore, there is nothing for the TV to decode and display. However, if you turn on CC on your set top box, it will decode the CC and display it on the signal being transmitted to your 733 or 734 (or any other set) via component or HDMI.

Thanks, that is what I needed to know.
post #209 of 486
I just got my 65733 delivered yesterday morning. Great set! I must say though, that as expected, the settings out of the box were EXTREMELY bright. They had the contrast jacked all the way up, the main picture 'mode' set to 'Brilliant', they lamp turned to the bright setting. Man, I thought is was going to burn the retinas right out of my eyes! Not to mention, with it tuned that brightly, the SSE was VERY apparent in almost all scenes.

However, a little tuning with DVE (what little I can do with my limited knowledge) with gray scale, tint, contrast, color, etc, and WOW! what a great TV! It's really quite stunning, for HD OTA, HD via Sattelite and of course HD DVD! The colors are very natural, the resolution is fantastic. Once tuned, I could not even detect SSE.

For those interested in the noise, I did hear the 'whine' of the colorwheel, but it was really nothing distracting. In fact, it was a bit quieter than my previous 50" DLP TV. With the volume on (any sound), I couldn't hear it any longer. No other noises that I could hear.

For those interested in ideal stand height - with my couch, which sits just a little lower than most couches (and of course seating heights differ from couch to couch), I have the TV at just about the perfect height with a 20" high stand.


So far, my initial impressions are that I am very pleased, and that it's very important to do some adjustments to the set before you can get a good idea of what it's capable of.
post #210 of 486
Well, if anyone is interested in the 65733, there's another unadvertised special at Fry's here in the SoCal area. They have it for the best price I have seen anywhere, even better than last week's price. I went back to Best Buy and had them price match mine (plus 10% of the difference) again! The price ithey're selling it for is $1999.00.
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