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post #241 of 486
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Originally Posted by PPGPAUL View Post

Yes , you will get into the service menu by just using 'menu' then '2-4-5-7. By entering '0' you will arrive at the 'Manual Keystone Geometry Alignment' . This will be the third selection down on the list of adjustments. . Press the buttons 2, 4, 5, 7, pause and then press 0 (Data Selection Mode will appear)
Make your adj as indicated in the above post.

Interesting. I'll give this a try when I get home from work tonight. Anything else worth sharing from the SM? Thanks!
post #242 of 486
To Mits 733/PS3 owners: Are there noticeable differences in contrast, brightness and color between 1080p and 1080i/480p BD video?

I have a 732 which I am in the process of replacing because of a weird bug I've experienced. If you calibrate contrast, brightness and color to 1080p, all other resolutions look too dark and a tad oversaturated; if you calibrate to all other resolutions, 1080p looks washed out and dull. I'm hoping that this bug is in last year's models only.

A simple test: play a 1080p BD, like "300," then play one of the extras that are native 1080i or 480p. Does it look too dark, like it has crushed blacks, and requires you to recalibrate? Or does it look the same as 1080p and requires no recalibration? Thanks for your help with my replacement decision.
post #243 of 486


WE love our 733.

Had it for 1 month
post #244 of 486
Quote:


Yes , you will get into the service menu by just using 'menu' then '2-4-5-7. By entering '0' you will arrive at the 'Manual Keystone Geometry Alignment' . This will be the third selection down on the list of adjustments. . Press the buttons “2”, “4”, “5”, “7”, pause and then press “0” (Data Selection Mode will appear)
Make your adj as indicated in the above post.

I finally went into the service menu on my 65734 and did the Manual Keystone Geometry. It made a HUGE improvement. I had a little pincusion on 4:3 and that is now gone. Also, the top right and left were bowed up a little. Not anymore! It looks fantastic. I found it best to focus on one or two areas at a time and make small adjustments. Then just going back in again and again until it looked great.

I noticed too that in the service menu above 'Manual Keystone Geometry' there was an option to 'Restore Keystone Geometry'. I didn't do it, but that would probably restore it to factory right? There was also an option to back up the Keystone Geometry.

Anyway, thanks PPGPAUL. the TV looks PERFECT now!
post #245 of 486
I have a question. I purchased the wd-57733 from a local retailer yesterday ($1202 for the tv brand new!) and so far I'm loving it. However, I also shipped a Toshiba 57hm167 last week from newegg ($1399 + $150 shipping). I can reject the AIT shipping when it arrives next week for a full refund from newegg or I can take the Mitsu back next week when I get the TV from newegg. Any recomendations on this? Which of the two sets would you consider the better of the two? Any input would be appreciated.

the mitsu was $1202 + $399 for a 5 year unlimited use warrenty (covers bulb and in home service). the toshiba was $1549 + $200 for a 3 year mack warrenty that I'd definitely be getting with all the toshiba bulb issues.
post #246 of 486
I would keep the Mit, I think it's a better tv, and $ 150.less over all ,and 2 more years of warrenty
post #247 of 486
I have the following connections

DirectTV HD Reciever -> HDMI -> 65733 -> Coaxial Out -> A/V Reciever
also
XBox 360 -> HDMI -> 65733 -> Coaxial Out -> A/V Reciever

I am not geting 5.1 output to my A/V Reciever from either the DirectTv
box or my XBox.

Can anyone confirm that the 733 Coaxial out will send 5.1 when recieving an HDMI input?

Thx.
post #248 of 486
why would you go out from the tv to the reciever that makes no sense at all ... (to me at least)

i have a direct tv HD & ps3 and both go digital to my reciever and HDMI right to the TV..

with that said it does send PCM digital out the only question i would ask than is your reciever decoding it properly...

what reciever do you have?
post #249 of 486
I've seen a studdering effect while watching movie credits on a 73733. Anyone know what the cause of the studdering would be.
post #250 of 486
Hi all,

This is my first post here :-)

Thanks to the great advice on this forum, I went out and bought a Circuit City WDY657. I have tried it out as follows:

I live in Austin, TX and use only over the air broadcasts. My plain old rabbit ear antenna mounted in my living room in the 78749 zip code pulled in all the Austin HD channels without any trouble. The quality of the picture depends on the quality of the channel and the program being broadcast, and even in the case of sports, the camera/angle being broadcast. It varies from decent in the case of SD broadcasts to FANTASTIC for full 1080p HD. I have never seen such brilliant pictures.

I connected the set to my Onkyo A/V receiver and my non-HD DVD player and am very pleased with the picture there as well. As a bonus, the Circuit City Y657 comes with IR emitters so the TV remote can control both my A/V receiver and DVD player. Very cool.

I did experience some bowing, but thanks to the good directions in this thread on performing a Manual Keystone Geometry Alignment, I was able to greatly improve it. Thanks again for this good information.
post #251 of 486
So the Circuit City Y657 comes with a USB port to which you can connect a USB stick with JPG pictures.

I have a Canon 7 megapixel digital SLR and I loaded up a few pics to see how they would display on this great 65" screen. The results are mixed:

Pics in portrait mode: Resolution: 2592 wide x 3888 high: They display occupying all the screen real estate from top to bottom with black bands on the sides. No problem here - the pic looks great.

Pics in landscape mode: Resolution: 3888 wide x 2592 high: The pic looks good but the TV seems to scale this downwards for some reason. There are wide black bands around all four sides.

Also, since these pics are much larger in size than the TV can display, it takes about 10 seconds to read each picture. Most of the image data is going to waste.

So I thought: No problem - I will downsample / resize these pics so they fit exactly in the usable HD resolution of 1920 wide x 1080 high. Here begin all the problems:

I resized the pics in Photoshop and saved them as JPGs. The TV doesn't display recognize or display these at all. I tried a couple of different JPG options to no effect.

I tried the fine convert program of ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org). This is a command line program that resizes images. I resized the landscape and portrait pics, verified that they were the correct sizes on my PC. The TV displays them, but displays them greatly shrunken, almost as thumbnail size.

I have played around a fair amount with different options, but without much success. I would greatly like to get this to work well, as this 65" display is terrific for sharing pics with family and friends.

Any ideas with what will hit Mitsubishi's sweet spot?
post #252 of 486
Quote:
why would you go out from the tv to the reciever that makes no sense at all ... (to me at least)

I have an older reciever (Denon 2801) which does not have HDMI inputs.
So I was hoping to go HDMI to the TV and then a single digital out to the A/V.

Instead, from the XBox I have to use the Component Cable in conjunction w/ an optical cable to get 5.1.

Quote:
with that said it does send PCM digital out the only question i would ask than is your reciever decoding it properly...

It was my understanding that PCM = stereo w/ dolby pro logic which is what I am getting.
I can't seem to get Dolby 5.1 output from the 65733.
post #253 of 486
the tv only sends out PCM 2 channel digital..(from what i have read)

i think the reciever you mentioned has 1 coax in and about 3 digitial optical in

you can still go HDMI to the TV for video and than just run the audio to the reciever..
post #254 of 486
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Originally Posted by chelle2nines View Post

I have a 65731 in my gameroom that I bought a year ago and there's no pincushion issue with it. It's got one beautiful picture. But.....on Saturday I bought a 57733 for downstairs and I thought I was loosing my mind because my tv sides looked warped, the bottom sides are straight and the top sides are curved outward. Thank god I found this forum...I thought I was the only one with this problem. I'm definitedly exchanging this tv tomorrow...it's sad because the picture is beautiful but the warp is annoying. Has anyone had this problem with this model yet? I bought the TV at Conns (San Antonio) for 1299.00 Hopefully the exchanged one is going to be okay.


Are you talking about the actual TV is warped or just the picture?
I was thinking about getting this TV. (57733)
post #255 of 486
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Originally Posted by Nalow View Post

Are you talking about the actual TV is warped or just the picture?
I was thinking about getting this TV. (57733)

He's talking about the pic, some bowing on sides, a easy do it your self fix in service menu,in 734 and 833 threads, tells how to do it!
post #256 of 486
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Originally Posted by DUlrich1227 View Post

the tv only sends out PCM 2 channel digital..(from what i have read)

i think the reciever you mentioned has 1 coax in and about 3 digitial optical in

you can still go HDMI to the TV for video and than just run the audio to the reciever..

I read an excerpt in the manual about the HDMI ports only able to receive "Dolby Stereo" and that you must run individual digital outs for Dolby Surround to the A/V, then in the hookup section the manual says to do exactly why he is trying to do. SatBox/XBox/DVD player --> HDMI port on the TV. Then you run the digital out from the TV to the A/V receiver. I am a bit confused. I went back and forth last Thursday while watching "Bobby" and I couldn't discern a difference either way.
post #257 of 486
I figured out how to get the JPGs to display properly. It appears that the Mitsubishi TV examines the EXIF tags as follows:
The EXIF tags must exist or the pictures won't display at all.
The TV appears to examine the EXIF tags PixelXDimension and PixelYDimension to calculate scaling. If these are not set properly, the pics won't display properly scaled. The TV also appears to examine the tag Orientation to determine whether to rotate the pic.

I wrote a script as follows:
1) Uses ImageMagick (www.imagemagick.org) to rescale the pics to 1920x1080, adding black bars on the sides as necessary so the pics are exactly 1920x1080 in resolution. This has the side benefit of making them faster to display.
2) ImageMagick passes the EXIF tags through unchanged, so I used another program libexif which comes with a command line executable exif to change the values of the EXIF tags PixelXDimension and PixelYDimension to 1920 and 1080 respectively.

After this, the pics display beautifully on my WDY657

I can pretty up the scripts and post them if anyone is interested. I ran them on Windows using Cygwin but they should work on Linux. They have potential - I am contemplating making them more general so that they could resize photos for display on standard TVs, iPods, etc.
post #258 of 486
Just pulled the trigger on a wd65733 to replace my pos Toshiba 72hm195 ( i will never buy another tosh tv again). For me it came down to the mits or the sony a2020...since i was already going from 72" to 65" i couldnt go down to 60". The tv will show up on friday as bb was out of stock. I cannot wait. My Tosh has been in and out of the shop for the last several months and i have only had the tosh for a little ov er a year. Anyway, after reading this thread, it looks like i made the right decision. Anything else i should be aware of as far as problems with this set are concerned? Thanks in advance.
post #259 of 486
Bump, would like my previous question answered.
post #260 of 486
Tommy,

I am not sure on this one. I will be able to tell you soon though. I would say that HDMI 1.3 will pass 5.1 over HDMI then to the coaxial output. I know there are some issues with the samsungs but as far as I am aware this will work on the diamonds and other Mits dlps. Hope that helps a little.
My TV got delayed till tomorrow.

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post #261 of 486
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Originally Posted by TommyDeVito View Post

I read an excerpt in the manual about the HDMI ports only able to receive "Dolby Stereo" and that you must run individual digital outs for Dolby Surround to the A/V, then in the hookup section the manual says to do exactly why he is trying to do. SatBox/XBox/DVD player --> HDMI port on the TV. Then you run the digital out from the TV to the A/V receiver. I am a bit confused. I went back and forth last Thursday while watching "Bobby" and I couldn't discern a difference either way.

not sure what your question is here ? discern a difference betweeen what ? what signal does your reciever say it is recieving ?


I guess it just seems unnatural to me to use the audio in the tv as it is just AWFUL sounding. I run all my audio via my reciever.
post #262 of 486
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Originally Posted by nc88keyz View Post

Tommy,

I am not sure on this one. I will be able to tell you soon though. I would say that HDMI 1.3 will pass 5.1 over HDMI then to the coaxial output. I know there are some issues with the samsungs but as far as I am aware this will work on the diamonds and other Mits dlps. Hope that helps a little.
My TV got delayed till tomorrow.

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No problem and thank you very much for the reply. I went back and forth last night between running the Digi-coax out from the TV to my Yamaha receiver, then straight from the DVD player to the receiver while watching 'Zodiac'. It seemed like there was more volume running the DVD player audio direct into the receiver but I would like someone elses take on the deal to confirm. I think it passes it like you said because my sub was firing but I want to confirm with someone on here. Until there is a good receiver on the market that accepts 1.3, has at least 3 ports, and is priced competitively I'm going to keep using my Yamaha. For reference sake My Mitsu set is the 73733 and I'm running a NXG HDMI cable from the upconverting (1080i) Samsung DVD player. Tomorrow night the "Cable Guy" will be by the house to drop off my HD DVR and it'll be hooked up HDMI as well, just need to figure out if I need to run the optical out on it directly to the receiver or let the TV do it via the coax out.
Either way hopefully we can keep this thread a little more active. I'm ordering a test DVD tomorrow on payday
post #263 of 486
Frys has the WD-XX733 on sale today. Unsure if it's online only, or instore price as well.

MITSUBISHI WD-57733
MITSUBISHI WD-65733


My nitch is 55" wide, so my only options is the 57" TV. What concerns me is all the talk I've been hearing about the humming noise from the 733. I've been holding out, but I've got this serious HD itch that eventually I'm going to have to scratch.

GREAT FORUM!!

~Rich

[mod please no pricing, other than MSRP Thanks]
post #264 of 486
I seached this thread but did not find any info on sunlight. I have an older rear projection Mits set and we have to keep all blinds closed in order to be able to watch TV during the day and the wife is weary of this. So she has given the green light to get a new set. Can anyone comment on the impacts of sunlight on a these Mits DLPs? We have a few windows 20' from the screen that we have to close and one side window. It would be nice to be able to watch TV without having to close these. I have heard DLPs don't have the same light reflections issues as older rear projections sets. Can anyone comment if they have a set in a sun lit room? Or point to another thread.
Thanks,
Bryan
post #265 of 486
I have the 65733 and have been waiting for comcast to setup my hd cable before giving a full review and hooking my upscaling dvd player to it. I have been watching hd over the air and the PQ is awesome on this set. The blacks are inky and the color pops on HD channels, standard def is alright for a 65" set. My Mit 65733 was built in May and has no whining problem, the tv is dead silent, not even fan noise, I love it! Right now I have the tv setup in a room with sunlight and it does fine, not as well as LCDs I have seen but very well. The tv is plenty bright to overcome the sunlight but there is a little glare depending on the angle the sunlight is hitting it.
The Frys.com price is most likely only online, with tvs they usually do not match their online prices in store, I have tried but no luck. Always worth a shot.
Amazon is selling the set for the same price I paid at my local audio/video store, a really great price, if you are considering buying this tv, try hangling at CC or BB and see if they will match amazon's price. It will be easier to return incase your set does whine or buzz.
Just wanted to let people know there are ones that do not make whining noises. For the size and PQ this tv is a great! I am really happy with this tv, the sound is only alright but who cares, if you buy a tv this size you will most likely be running it through a sound system.
Can't wait for next week when I hook up the stereo and cable!
post #266 of 486
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Originally Posted by bryankeithg View Post

I seached this thread but did not find any info on sunlight. I have an older rear projection Mits set and we have to keep all blinds closed in order to be able to watch TV during the day and the wife is weary of this. So she has given the green light to get a new set. Can anyone comment on the impacts of sunlight on a these Mits DLPs? We have a few windows 20' from the screen that we have to close and one side window. It would be nice to be able to watch TV without having to close these. I have heard DLPs don't have the same light reflections issues as older rear projections sets. Can anyone comment if they have a set in a sun lit room? Or point to another thread.
Thanks,
Bryan

The mit 734, does a better job with glare than the older mit, the 833 does even better as it has a anti glare screen that does make a different, but is about $500.more(top-of-line) We have a 65833 in a room with lots of light and it handles it very well. now if your talking about sunlight right on the screen, i don't know of any tv that is going to handle that very good!
Might want to read up on the 734 and 833 threads!
post #267 of 486
Does anybody know the time it takes for the WD-65733 to get to normal operating temp?
post #268 of 486
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Originally Posted by tlbowerts View Post

The mit 734, does a better job with glare than the older mit, the 833 does even better as it has a anti glare screen that does make a different, but is about $500.more(top-of-line) We have a 65833 in a room with lots of light and it handles it very well. now if your talking about sunlight right on the screen, i don't know of any tv that is going to handle that very good!
Might want to read up on the 734 and 833 threads!

Thankyou for the fast reponses!
The sunlight is not directly on the screen. But with the RP Mits we have now it does not matter. Just have to have the blind open and you get horrible glare with indirect sunlight. What you both posted in encouraging. I think I am going to have to do some shopping.
post #269 of 486
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Originally Posted by liltalkm View Post


I would really like to see the 120 hz.


Later

What is the 120 hz for and where can I find the setting?
post #270 of 486
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Originally Posted by mikegaudiello View Post

What is the 120 hz for and where can I find the setting?

120Hz ,to minimize motion blur in fast moving action scenes, it's a feature on the 833 only!
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