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post #19111 of 19590
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Originally Posted by axmode View Post

Wow, it has been a really, really long time since I have been in here and my 4661 which is now almost 2 1/2 years old, has suffered from this very exact fate

It had also happened a few month ago, but it finally came back on after a few minutes of messing around. This time, it has been an overnight affair and still no video (image) but there is audio (sound).

I will unplug it for a few hours to see as to if this hocus-pocus would work, but if it does not, I may have to call the repair facility. The TV is mounted on a TV console thingy, but if you guys think that I should bring it down and inspect the Caps first, I'd take a chance on that before I delve into the more expensive repair options!. I am relatively good with light electronics repairs and maybe able to swap out boards too.

Bottomline: Currently no picture, but have sound. Never had the random flashes of any of the primary colors.

TIA...

I think it would be worth your time (and money) to check the caps first. Seems to be the one thing consistent through all our problems .... it can't hurt anyhow, at least you'll rule it out and it won't take all that long.
post #19112 of 19590
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Originally Posted by black_macleod View Post

I think it would be worth your time (and money) to check the caps first. Seems to be the one thing consistent through all our problems .... it can't hurt anyhow, at least you'll rule it out and it won't take all that long.

Yes, since I have to dismount it, I may as well open it up and check the capacitors first Thank you...
post #19113 of 19590
After reading the thread I finally decided to open my 5265, and lo and behold...
Bad Caps. 3 are bulging. I'm sure it's what's causing the magenta/pink dots I noted a couple of pages back. I ordered some KZE 16v 1000uf 105c caps from Digikey and plan to operate Saturday. Wish me luck..
post #19114 of 19590
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Originally Posted by mdreyno View Post

check samsungparts.com
I think they're official, and their rates appear to be somwhat reasonable. IDK if you'll be able to get the exact version of the board you're looking for through their site, but it'll give you a good price guess.

I wound up buying from them. I pulled off the tv and replaced the board myself. The board I got from them looks like it was rebuilt or so and had a sticker on it that said has 1037 firmware. After replacing and hanging the tv back on the wall, I checked the board number and it said 1004! The same number as my previous board. I was pissed that I had pulled the tv off the wall and did all that work for the main board numbers to be the same.

I think the letters after the "1004" are different and the part numbers on the board are different in the last letter.

So far, I have had no pink or green flashes with my hdmis and xbox 360. So, I think I got a refurbed board, but it works no complaints here.
post #19115 of 19590
I have the exact same issue with my LN-T4061F, I have replaced the capacitors and still is black or blinking, while the audio is fine. Did you get an inverter? Did you solve your problem?
post #19116 of 19590
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Originally Posted by corkst View Post

Hello all - PLEASE HELP,

I own a 46" samsung lcd tv (LN-T4661F) which just turned 20 months old. Til now, it was watched very infrequently (maybe 6 hrs per week). When powered on, it functions normally for about ten minutes before the picture goes black, but continues with the program's audio. Changing source/powering the set off and back on again does not rectify the issue, black screen with sound continues. I uplugged the television from the power outlet overnight, plugged it in and powered it on the next day, when it again functioned correctly for 25 minutes before it again reverted to black screen with sound. Additionally, I can immediately power the tv off and back on again, and the picture will again come back for a minutes before again going to black screen with audio.

As the tv is out of warranty, Samsung was not willing to do anything nor would they admit to this being a known issue despite the multitude of people reporting/blogging about their same experiences. They say to call tv repair and provided me with contact info to their samsung authorized repair center.

I have done much reading and learned that faulty capacitors have proven to be the cause in many cases of other LCD Samsung televisions.

Although the capacitors appeared fine, we changed the the five commonly found to be the issue for others. Unfortunately, our problem remains, power the tv on, we get picture and sound for 10 - 20 minutes before the picture goes black and sound continues.

Called the samsung certified repair guy who thinks that if it was a power board issue, the tv would likely not come on with picture at all, he seemed to think it may be related to an inverter issue. He quoted the costs associated with the repair would amount to $240 labor (according to him was a $20 discount, since Samsung would pay him $260 for in warranty repair labor) plus the cost of the parts ($100 per inverter). I scheduled a pickup with him, which was to take place either Monday or Wednesday of last week, however, he 'no-showed' either day, nor called to advise/reschedule.

Can anyone offer any advice of which way I should go, not really interested in spending alot of $ to repair the tv which will still be substandard, when I can purchase a new, better quality tv for not much more. I can order an ip board for approx $120, but am reluctant to throw good money after bad if in fact the board is not the problem.

I have the exact same issue. Did the guy ever show up, did you get it fixed? If so how did you solve the problem
post #19117 of 19590
Is the TV plugged in via HDMI? It sounds like an HDMI handshake problem which I had with the 4665 and a Comcast Motorola cable box. The picture would drop out randomly after random amounts of time. However, connected via DVI to my HTPC or HDMI to a DVD player did not have the problem.

It was fixed by replacing the main logic board, not the power supply board.
post #19118 of 19590
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Originally Posted by taphil View Post

Is the TV plugged in via HDMI? It sounds like an HDMI handshake problem which I had with the 4665 and a Comcast Motorola cable box. The picture would drop out randomly after random amounts of time. However, connected via DVI to my HTPC or HDMI to a DVD player did not have the problem.

It was fixed by replacing the main logic board, not the power supply board.

Where can I buy the Main Logic board? Is that the same as the "mother board"?
post #19119 of 19590
Yes, same as motherboard. The TV has two boards, one is the power supply board (many pics posted in this thread) and the other is the logic board (which runs the TV). I think I've read that on some TVs the metal cover for the power supply board is removed (it's present on my TV in the pic below, which BTW is still functioning fine since I bought it when the model was first introduced).

I don't know where to find the boards, but I'd do a forum search to be sure that it's the logic board causing the problem. I remember reading about it before which is how/why I got my board replaced years ago. Basically, what would happen is that the picture would randomly drop out due to a HDMI handshake problem, which I think occurred for me only with a Comcast Motorola cable box but not other sources.
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post #19120 of 19590
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Originally Posted by taphil View Post

Yes, same as motherboard. The TV has two boards, one is the power supply board (many pics posted in this thread) and the other is the logic board (which runs the TV). I think I've read that on some TVs the metal cover for the power supply board is removed (it's present on my TV in the pic below, which BTW is still functioning fine since I bought it when the model was first introduced).

I don't know where to find the boards, but I'd do a forum search to be sure that it's the logic board causing the problem. I remember reading about it before which is how/why I got my board replaced years ago. Basically, what would happen is that the picture would randomly drop out due to a HDMI handshake problem, which I think occurred for me only with a Comcast Motorola cable box but not other sources.

Thanks for the information. I will search as you suggested.
post #19121 of 19590
The operation was a success!! I actually replaced 5 Caps instead of three. The TV turned on faster than ever. I also notice that changing channels was a bit more fluid. Could bad Caps slow the changing of channels?
post #19122 of 19590
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Originally Posted by dante07 View Post

The operation was a success!! I actually replaced 5 Caps instead of three. The TV turned on faster than ever. I also notice that changing channels was a bit more fluid. Could bad Caps slow the changing of channels?

I don't think that the capacitors would have any impact on channel changing but I am not 100% sure. I do know that replacing the capacitors was extremely easy and I did it in under an hour and it is working great now.
post #19123 of 19590
It's impossible to predict all the effects that may arise from noisy power lines, which is what a power supply with bad electrolytics will produce (if it produces any at all).
post #19124 of 19590
ARRRGH! Add me to the list of victims..... LNT-4665 Purchased thru Fry's electronics Jan 2008!
Same issue: delayed start / pink pixels on some occasions when first turned on.

I think it's total B.S. that Samsung won't stand behind this product.

I'm not very confident about trying the DIY "replace the capacitors" thing myself-- but hate to get ripped off for what should be a simple repair. I think I'll try to locate the parts and pay a TV repair person to do the job. Wish me luck. Thanks for a great thread!!
post #19125 of 19590
It really isn't a big deal at all. I purchased the right capacitors online for about $11.00 and paid a TV repair shop to de-solder the bad ones and solder the new ones. I took them just the board and I was charged like $30 to do this.

Spending less than $50 to fix a $1,700 two year old TV was well worth it.

Regards,

BA...
post #19126 of 19590
I started having problems with my LN-T4065F tv. At first it would take 2 - 3 tries before it would power on completely. Once warmed up however, it would turn on right away after shutting it off. A few weeks ago, I had left the TV on for the whole day and went to to turn it off but when I hit power, it just kept on cycling/clicking. I had no choice but to pull the plug. I left the plug out for the night and plugged it in again in the morning. Now everytime I turn on the TV, it turns on immediately but has thin vertical lines of different colors. I attached a picture. Audio has no problems. Is this still fixable by replacing the capacitors or am I looking at a more complex issue?
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post #19127 of 19590
After reading through this and similar threads we quickly figured out that capacitors are the issue. The back was popped open and the culprits identified and pulled. The next issue though is where to get properly sized replacements. The local electronics suppliers don't carry what we're looking for, even the official Samsung repair shop (they say they've never received any parts from Samsung). It looks like I can get the same models from Digi.com, but if I pick those up I assume the TV will fail again in another two years.

If anyone has suggestions on good supply sites, I'm all fingers!

TV Model: 460PXN
Capacitor 1: 450wv (increase to 900), 150 uf, 105º C
Capacitor 2: 25v (increase to 50), 1000 uf, 105º C
post #19128 of 19590
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Originally Posted by Hennepin View Post

After reading through this and similar threads we quickly figured out that capacitors are the issue. The back was popped open and the culprits identified and pulled. The next issue though is where to get properly sized replacements. The local electronics suppliers don't carry what we're looking for, even the official Samsung repair shop (they say they've never received any parts from Samsung). It looks like I can get the same models from Digi.com, but if I pick those up I assume the TV will fail again in another two years.

If anyone has suggestions on good supply sites, I'm all fingers!

TV Model: 460PXN
Capacitor 1: 450wv (increase to 900), 150 uf, 105º C
Capacitor 2: 25v (increase to 50), 1000 uf, 105º C

MCM Electronics.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/
post #19129 of 19590
Thanks much! I also found some good candidates on eBay.
post #19130 of 19590
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Originally Posted by JediRob View Post

So just to follow up my repair was successful.

I would urge anyone experiencing these symptoms to try taking care of it yourself and saving you tons of money and aggravation. And also getting quite the sense of satisfaction!!!

This was the symptom, along with the looping startup.



Blown capacitors along with new ones.



Successfully installed. First time soldering.



TV is currently moving along just fine.

Hey thanks for the pics--First image is EXACTLY what my set (Samsung LNT 4065f) is doing (just without quite as many pink pixels). My TV is still under warranty (bought the extended warranty from Sears where I picked up the TV, so I called them and they are sending a repair tech. out.).

I intend to print out this post to show it to the tech (although I think they're replacing the whole board). This is really helpful! Thanks!
post #19131 of 19590
I have a 4665F with HDMI issues that is no longer covered by the warranty. I would like to try upgrading the firmware before paying a technician to come fix it. Can anyone please tell me if the firmware files are still available? The links at the top of this thread do not work anymore and Samsung help line was a dead end. Google didn't find it either.

I would like to try 1037, but I think any one of the later update will be good.
post #19132 of 19590
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Originally Posted by shadowlock View Post

Hey thanks for the pics--First image is EXACTLY what my set (Samsung LNT 4065f) is doing (just without quite as many pink pixels). My TV is still under warranty (bought the extended warranty from Sears where I picked up the TV, so I called them and they are sending a repair tech. out.).

I intend to print out this post to show it to the tech (although I think they're replacing the whole board). This is really helpful! Thanks!

Yep, my Sears warranty did the same thing. Replaced the entire board, although the tech came prepared to just put new capacitors in. He didn't know Sears had sent me a new board beforehand.
post #19133 of 19590
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Originally Posted by sprowe View Post

I have a 4665F with HDMI issues that is no longer covered by the warranty. I would like to try upgrading the firmware before paying a technician to come fix it. Can anyone please tell me if the firmware files are still available? The links at the top of this thread do not work anymore and Samsung help line was a dead end. Google didn't find it either.

I would like to try 1037, but I think any one of the later update will be good.

Good luck Sprowe. I've been looking for the same thing, the firmware, but have been unable to up to this point. If you can find the firmware, I would truly appreciate it if you PMed me to let me know and provide it for me. I have the HDMI issues as well.
post #19134 of 19590
I have the 1032 and 1037 firmware files I used to upgrade my 4665 with a 1008 board (both referenced in first post of this thread).

I can upload them somewhere if someone gives me instructions. I know nothing about public uploading sites and don't want to register or anything.
post #19135 of 19590
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Originally Posted by taphil View Post

I have the 1032 and 1037 firmware files I used to upgrade my 4665 with a 1008 board (both referenced in first post of this thread).

I can upload them somewhere if someone gives me instructions. I know nothing about public uploading sites and don't want to register or anything.

taphil,

That is absolutely awesome! I haven't really uploaded files either so I'm not sure if there are any that you don't need to register for. I contacted the original author of this thread quite a while ago about this problem (I forgot about it up until now, that's why I didn't mention it in my previous post) and he had said that the green flashing issue can only be rectified with a board change. In any case, it would be great to have the firmware in this thread again.
post #19136 of 19590
Hi again taphil,

I don't know what kind of quality download this will offer, or what the restrictions are, but if you go to http://www.mediafire.com/ you can click the big green button to upload a file immediately without registering. I know WilliamG, the original author said the first post won't be updated anymore, but having access to the files somewhere would still be great.
post #19137 of 19590
Ok, here's 1037

http://www.mediafire.com/?ry3tnltu1oz

Beware, as the post #1 mentions, of the risks. Also, sets produced later on have a different board which were entirely different and don't use the above firmware.
post #19138 of 19590
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Originally Posted by taphil View Post

Ok, here's 1037

http://www.mediafire.com/?ry3tnltu1oz

Beware, as the post #1 mentions, of the risks. Also, sets produced later on have a different board which were entirely different and don't use the above firmware.

Awesome! Thanks very much taphil. I have a 1005 mainboard with 1022 firmware so I believe I'm in the clear. However, from everything I've read, the only way I'll fix the green flashing and HDMI signal dropping is with a mainboard swap. Unfortunately my warranty ran out almost a year ago. I still think Samsung should honor this considering it's a fault from the factory, but I haven't been able to get anywhere with them.

Anyway, thanks again, I really appreciate it and I know Sprowe will as well. I first started looking for the firmware about a year ago and haven't been able to get it until now.
post #19139 of 19590
O.K my LNT4665FX has the HDMI issue with the picture cutting out. Tried to download the firmware on the first page and no good.. Tried searching and nothing. Anyone still have the firmware/download available? Thanks.
post #19140 of 19590
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Originally Posted by avneebie View Post

O.K my LNT4665FX has the HDMI issue with the picture cutting out. Tried to download the firmware on the first page and no good.. Tried searching and nothing. Anyone still have the firmware/download available? Thanks.

You should look at the two posts directly above yours

However, as I said (and I believe it even says in the first post) the HDMI signal dropping issue, as well as the green/pink flashing can only be fixed with a mainboard replacement.

I'm still going to give the firmware update a try but I'm quite positive it won't help.
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