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Anyone heard what's happening with Fox?

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They delayed every single title they announced earlier this year and so far haven't re-announced any updates on when we can expect them. I was looking forward to quite a few of the mentioned titles.

Anyone heard anything by chance?
post #2 of 181
There are rumored release dates begining June through August floating around the net for titles like:

Mr and Mrs Smith
Thomas Crown Affair
Master and Commander
Man On Fire
Cast Away


.... however nothing official from Fox yet.
post #3 of 181
Depeding on who you believe, Fox and Disney have taken a wait n' see approach due to attach rates being low, esp. on catalog titles. We'll see newer titles and maybe some catalogues like Potc1and2 to coincide with a series movie release but the rest of the titles they'll likely wait util either more players are in circulation or attach rates go up enough. In the end, the overall volume of disc sales is slow compared to the number of players (including PS3) out there.
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As high def fans may have noticed, 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment has pretty much pulled out of the high definition race by indefinitely postponing all their previously scheduled Blu-Ray releases and offering up only the occasional one or two day and date discs, such as last week's 'Night At The Museum.'
The studio has repeatedly cited delays in the production for these postponements but to be honest, I do not believe that for a minute. Of course, the studio will never publicly admit to pulling high definition support - after all it is a publicly traded company - and thus production delays are the typical damage-control excuse that have been used by studios for decades.
My take on this situation is that Fox is taking a wait and see stance here, that could have two reasons.

continued...

http://www.dvdreview.com/
post #5 of 181
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Originally Posted by Wesker View Post

They delayed every single title they announced earlier this year and so far haven't re-announced any updates on when we can expect them.

Technically Fox has released several titles that they announced early this year but most of them have been delayed with no new dates given for when they will be released. There were a few exceptions to that though such as Eragon and Night at the Museum.


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Originally Posted by Wesker View Post

Anyone heard anything by chance?

The most likely explanation is that the successful hacking which occurred with several software players for both HD formats caused Fox to delay many of their Blu-ray titles until they can start using the new AACS keys and BD+. The new AACS keys will require updates to the software players that were hacked and BD+ is supposed to improve the copy protection on Blu-ray discs. Also Fox is not alone in caring about copy protection and Studio Canal, a HD DVD supporting studio in Europe, delayed many of their HD DVD titles to wait for the new AACS keys as well.
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They better hurry up and give us From Hell and X-Men 1 and 2 already!!!
post #7 of 181
Its the copy protection being updated. Among other things.
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post

They better hurry up and give us From Hell and X-Men 1 and 2 already!!!

Predator... Alien...
post #9 of 181
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Originally Posted by RobertR1 View Post

I'm just foreshadowing Richard.

I support BR also. Wanna come over and watch Pirates 1 and 2 when they come out?

Sorry about that than. Last I checked you were an exclusive HD DVD supporter so I jumped the gun on what I thought you were saying with your earlier post.
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Originally Posted by Richard Paul View Post

Sorry about that than. Last I checked you were an exclusive HD DVD supporter so I jumped the gun on what I thought you were saying with your earlier post.

Its' cool. I've had a PS3 since last Nov. The delayed fox and disney titles really annoy me as I was REALLY wanting The Rock.
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So does anyone know if any releases on either format have used the new AACS keys yet? I trust they never fined cyberlink or windvd? In that last sentence "they" is whichever body would levy the fines; would that be AACS LA?
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I heard they might be going format neutral. They released that movie PATHFINDER:
LEGEND OF THE GHOST WARRIOR, which had a $60 million + budget, over a month ago and it has not been able to even break the $10 million dollar mark. IMHO they are probably hurtin in the bank and they probably are going to try to sell their company. The fact that this one movie is flopping like a fat chick in a pool means that potential buyers will not be interested in buying them. With that said, it is likely that they will start selling movies on HD-DVD to generate a revenue. Even a modest revenue of $50 million dollars would make their company much more appealing to shoppers.

IMHO, FOX releasing on HD-DVD is clearly in their future.


Hope this isn't considered plagerism
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Originally Posted by nickoakdl View Post

I heard they might be going format neutral. They released that movie PATHFINDER:
LEGEND OF THE GHOST WARRIOR, which had a $60 million + budget, over a month ago and it has not been able to even break the $10 million dollar mark. IMHO they are probably hurtin in the bank and they probably are going to try to sell their company. The fact that this one movie is flopping like a fat chick in a pool means that potential buyers will not be interested in buying them. With that said, it is likely that they will start selling movies on HD-DVD to generate a revenue. Even a modest revenue of $50 million dollars would make their company much more appealing to shoppers.

IMHO, FOX releasing on HD-DVD is clearly in their future.


Hope this isn't considered plagerism

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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

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I'm sure it was a joke about somebody making assumptions like that about Universal, based on "Georgia Rule" doing poorly. I thought it was pretty funny in light of the other thread.

--Darin
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Originally Posted by nickoakdl View Post

I heard they might be going format neutral. They released that movie PATHFINDER:
LEGEND OF THE GHOST WARRIOR, which had a $60 million + budget, over a month ago and it has not been able to even break the $10 million dollar mark. IMHO they are probably hurtin in the bank and they probably are going to try to sell their company. The fact that this one movie is flopping like a fat chick in a pool means that potential buyers will not be interested in buying them. With that said, it is likely that they will start selling movies on HD-DVD to generate a revenue. Even a modest revenue of $50 million dollars would make their company much more appealing to shoppers.

IMHO, FOX releasing on HD-DVD is clearly in their future.


Hope this isn't considered plagerism

Fox are doing rather better than Universal in recent years:

From 2006:

Night at the Museum Fox $250,603,633
X-Men: The Last Stand Fox $234,362,462
Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $195,330,621
Borat Fox $128,505,958
The Devil Wears Prada Fox $124,740,460

And Universal?

The Break-Up Uni. $118,703,275

Oh dear. Your argument is weak old man!
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Originally Posted by jkcheng122 View Post

Predator... Alien...

I don't really think I like the Alien movies enough to rebuy them unless Fox removes their stupid SPECIAL EDITION watermarks from the extended versions of Aliens and Alien 3. Oh, and they need to fix some audio issues with Alien 3. As for Predator, I'd probably buy them depending on the video quality.

Oh, and ID4 would look fantastic on HD.
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post

They better hurry up and give us From Hell and X-Men 1 and 2 already!!!

That's all that matters.
post #18 of 181
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Originally Posted by Xylon View Post

Its the copy protection being updated. Among other things.

I believe this. The story I heard is that Fox is the most paranoid studio regarding piracy, which is why they insisted on BD+ being included in the specs. I wonder if the AACS crack from last December made them hit the panic button.
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post

I don't really think I like the Alien movies enough to rebuy them unless Fox removes their stupid SPECIAL EDITION watermarks from the extended versions of Aliens and Alien 3.

What watermarks?
post #20 of 181
I just want Aliens.
post #21 of 181
All I want is Man on Fire... I could care less for everything else.

I also want the Die Hard movies, but that can wait.
post #22 of 181
They're paranoid for a reason...
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Originally Posted by Hottdiggiddy View Post

They're paranoid for a reason...

a pointless reason, no matter how hard studios try, it's only a matter of time, and short time at that, before hackers break the anti-piracy barrier.

in the meantime all these delays only hurt the ppl who actually spend the money to support these studios.
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Originally Posted by bferr1 View Post

I believe this. The story I heard is that Fox is the most paranoid studio regarding piracy, which is why they insisted on BD+ being included in the specs. I wonder if the AACS crack from last December made them hit the panic button.

Technically Fox did continue to release a good number of titles going on into February but I think the AACS hack did change their plans. Fox was always planning to use BD+ but once the AACS hack happened I think they decided to push back many of their Blu-ray titles for it. If it was only the AACS keys that they were waiting for than they would be releasing their titles later this month since that is when the new titles start to come out that use the new AACS keys.
post #25 of 181
And what happens when BD+ is hacked (which it inevitably will be)?
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Originally Posted by DigitalfreakNYC View Post

And what happens when BD+ is hacked (which it inevitably will be)?

Just hope it lasts long enough for BD to be entrenched, that's the best we can expect
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Originally Posted by pellucidity View Post

Just hope it lasts long enough for BD to be entrenched, that's the best we can expect

yeah, can just hope it holds up long enough for titles to be released first.

although, we should be able to get these titles, otherwise the hackers will have nothing to work on. they wont be able to crack BD+ until at least these titles are released first.
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Originally Posted by pellucidity View Post

Just hope it lasts long enough for BD to be entrenched, that's the best we can expect

silly...
post #29 of 181
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Originally Posted by fozziwig View Post

Oh dear. Your argument is weak old man!

Your sarcasm detection meter must be broken!
post #30 of 181
I won't claim to know what's happening with Fox but I do know their potential customers are a bit ticked at them.

They did a lot of teasin' but not very much pleasin' yet.
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