Actually, when you factor in the SSE (more about this later) and other artifacts, the 51S500 probably has a nicer picture. Especially with SD broadcasts. Although the glare is much, much less noticable on the new Tosh. The glare was one of the main reasons I decided to upgrade. I have a rec room in the basement with one small window up high, so the 51S500 will be perfect down there. My family room has lots of windows and we always had to close the shutters to watch anything during the day. Table lamps were also distracting during evening viewing. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about since you have one too.
The SSE is very pronounced with "out of the box" settings. Once I toned things down a bit, it's definately minimized it, but it's still very noticable. I think it's going to be something to get used to. Although I have to admit, I'm nowhere near done tweaking yet, so I hope to get more improvements. This is my first DLP, so I'm sure there's also an "acclimation period" to get used to the differences. It's quite a dramatic difference in the "look" of it after watching the Hitachi for 4 years.
Another "artifact", for lack of a better term, is this weird grainy look to the picture. Kind of like compression artifacts, but it seems to be stationary on the screen. I mainly see it during panning or camera movement. Almost like the back side of the screen has a rough texture to it, like crystals or something. This is a different problem than the SSE. After the super-smooth look of the Hitachi CRT RP, this seems very noticable.
So far, the only time the new Tosh compares favorably to the Hitachi is when using the HD-A2 as the source. At full HD resolution (and SD upconversion), they're pretty close. The Tosh is a little more vibrant and sharp (and very little glare), but the artifacts I mentioned are somewhat of a step back. I'm still on the fence as to whether I made a mistake on this one. I'll spend a little more effort dialing it in with DVE and then see how it looks. I have a feeling though that the new LX177 LCD models are going to look a lot nicer, albeit with a higher price tag. That's what I was waiting for until I couldn't contain myself any longer.
I don't know what others with these new Tosh sets are upgrading from, but these sets have rather large shoes to fill for owners of the Hitachi sets like ours. I wouldn't say I'm "wowed" at all. So far there's none of that "3D pop" that some people speak of. Other people were always impressed with my Hitachi, so maybe my problem is that it's just not much of a step up from what I'm used to.
Hope that helps. No offense to the other posters here, but remember to take all of these opinions with a "grain of salt". Including mine. You have to make your own judgement as to whether you like the DLP experience or not. It's quite different from the nice set you have. Especially if yours is well calibrated.
Originally Posted by jodeci4l
We have the same tv, Dllhope, how does the tosh compare to your 51S500? I've been on the fence on upgrading, i'm seriously considering the 57hm167.