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post #2881 of 3106
Does anybody kow why the shopjimmy site is stating 'Important! when replacing your DLP chip in a Toshiba TV you must replace the DMD/Formatter board at the same time."? I searched this thread and couldn't find any more info regarding that.
post #2882 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Daniel Eddy View Post

Does anybody know why the shopjimmy site is stating 'Important! when replacing your DLP chip in a Toshiba TV you must replace the DMD/Formatter board at the same time."? I searched this thread and couldn't find any more info regarding that.

Yeah I saw that as well. I didn't replace anything except the chip on mine. Replaced the chip last night and was sad to report I was getting blue vertical lines and solid black horizontal bars. Took everything apart again today and redid all the steps, the TV works perfectly now. So happy!
post #2883 of 3106
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Originally Posted by wxmcpo View Post

So I started getting the white dots a couple of weeks back. Ordered the new chip and when I got up to 9 dots decided it was time to swap chips. So I took it all apart, swapped chips, put it back together, turned it on and got vertical blue lines and 4 solid black bars running from side to side on the TV. No more white dots that I can see though. At this point though I'd rather have my white dots. I took it all apart again and redid everything and am still getting the vertical lines and black bars. Any ideas why I am getting these instead of a perfect screen like so many others?

After trying twice yesterday I gave up and went shopping for a new TV. Didn't purchase one though and I'm glad I didn't. I got up this morning and started over from the beginning. The TV works perfect now and looks 1000 times better than it did with the old chip even taking away the fact of the white dots (I only had 9 dots along the far right side of the TV). The colors just pop now. I attribute that to the new chip and a little house cleaning of the lens (although for 4 1/2 years old the inside was not very dusty at all. The only things I did differently this morning were I cleaned the mirror on the new chip (noticed there was a fingerprint on there) and I locked the new chip in. I missed that step yesterday because I did not have to unlock the old chip. When I removed the circuit board the old chip did not come off with it, it stayed attached to the metal casing so it was never locked onto the circuit board. With the new chip I locked it onto the circuit board, put everything back together, fired up the TV and it was better than new. Very easy repair to make and spending $159 on a new chip sure beats spending a couple grand on a new TV.
post #2884 of 3106
i think my tv just died on me. last week i turned it on and the picture came up as usual. as soon as it came on the colors looked kinda weird and t hen the tv turned right back off. whenever i turn it on it goes through the power cycles then does the blinking light thing. i dont hear anything when it goes through the power on process. i ordered a new bulb to see if that was the problem but that didnt work. any ideas from anyone? im hoping its a lamp ballast issue because if it isnt i guess i'll be shopping for a new tv.
post #2885 of 3106
What is the part number you guys are using for DLP chips on shopjimmy.com?

The one DLP chip I'm looking at is here: http://www.tvlampsforless.com/Toshiba_DLP_IC_p/75006693chip.htm

Does shopjimmy.com have an equal chip for a better price??

Edit: Never mind. Found it: http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-mitsubishi-toshiba-4719-001997-dlp-chip.htm

WOW! What an amazing price!
Edited by marx2k - 8/1/12 at 5:00pm
post #2886 of 3106
Got my DLP chip yesterday from shopjimmy. Installed it today. That was... not something I'd want to do more than a few times. I guess the toughest part was removing the metallic grille from the motherboard.

Anyway, reconnected everything and it all worked on the first try.

I'm very impressed biggrin.gif

I want to know, for anyone who has installed the shopjimmy DLP chip, has anyone ran into any issues at all after getting everything working?
post #2887 of 3106
Purchased the chip from Shop Jimmy and spent about 1 hour following the instructions in this thread. Everything went together exactly as the instructions stated and turned the TV back on. Unfortunately, I had a small box showing the picture within my 65 inch TV! After checking on the TV options to see if it was a format issue, I resigned myself to the fact that I must have done something wrong. I took everything back apart again and made sure that I seated the chip in properly as I noted that another poster had a picture problem and that solved the issue. Again, the same problem so I took the TV apart again.

At that point, I took the new chip that was shipped to me from Shop Jimmy and compared it to the old chip that I had. They were different with the new chip having a much smaller window/opening which likely contributed to the small screen on my TV! I called the vendor and they are sending the correct chip out today. So I decided to put the old chip back in place so that the TV would be operational in the meantime.

Unfortunately, all of the taking apart/putting back together seems to have caused my LVDS cable to be damaged. I spent the better part of last night and this morning trying to locate a replacement with no luck. I cannot find a part number and Toshiba support stated that they couldn't even bring the details of the 65HM167 up anymore on their system! A note on Encompass Parts seems to indicate that this cable is not available anymore. Thus, I am sensing doom for my TV.

Anyone have a source for this LVDS cable or know anything about its usage in other models? I obviously really need it....

Thanks in advance.
post #2888 of 3106
I replaced my light engine with a new sealed one for $300 that I found on ebay back on 7/1/11. I posted about it on page 89. Everything went well, but I got a white dot on Saturday and have another one today. So I got a year out of that repair. I also just replaced my lamp for the first time. I like the TV, but I am getting tired of repairing it so often. I thought I would 2 or 3 years from the light engine. I went ahead and ordered just the chip this time from Shop Jimmy. This is my last time dealing with this. Next time the chip fails, I'm getting a new TV. Hopefully I get a few more years out of it. What a terrible flaw.
post #2889 of 3106
I just got my chip delivered today, but before I even got home to install it my wife called to let me know the bulb blew! LOL, not. I bought it 2 months ago from shopjimmy and it said it had a 12 month warranty. I just contacted them and will see what they say. If I had known the bulb was going to go I wouldn't have even ordered the chip. I may return it now. If they person who posted before me is looking for the LVDS cable or anyone else on here needs parts, I may part out the TV. Thinking of going with a 60" plasma for $1099 at best buy. Either the Samsung or LG. Haven't decided for sure yet, but I'm leaning towards cutting my losses and frustrations on this set now.
post #2890 of 3106
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Originally Posted by afght19 View Post

I just got my chip delivered today, but before I even got home to install it my wife called to let me know the bulb blew! LOL, not. I bought it 2 months ago from shopjimmy and it said it had a 12 month warranty. I just contacted them and will see what they say. If I had known the bulb was going to go I wouldn't have even ordered the chip. I may return it now. If they person who posted before me is looking for the LVDS cable or anyone else on here needs parts, I may part out the TV. Thinking of going with a 60" plasma for $1099 at best buy. Either the Samsung or LG. Haven't decided for sure yet, but I'm leaning towards cutting my losses and frustrations on this set now.

PM me with a price on the LVDS cable. I made the decision this morning to simply part my TV out too based on the EXTREME frustration I've experienced with Toshiba Customer Service over a simple cable. With the refund I could get from ShopJimmy from the unused DLP chip and spare bulb, I would be on my way to a new TV (hopefully made by a company who will stand by their products). I may give it one more whack though if the price is right on the cable.....I must be a glutton for punishment.
post #2891 of 3106
Hello - It's great to see this level of information and help available! I also have the dreaded white dots on my 65HM167. Shop jimmy is suggesting changing the board too. I dont have that part number available for them to give me a cost. Does anyone know an appoximate cost on this board? Should I just start with replacing the chip and see if that works? Thank you very much - Ben
post #2892 of 3106
All you need to replace is the chip. DO NOT get any 'board' unless you are having additional issues beyond the white dots (if you look there are also black dots as well).
post #2893 of 3106
I replaced my chip last night and the TV is working great again. I also replaced the bulb which blew after only two months. ShopJimmy sent a new one at no charge, since it has a 12 month warranty. The chip replacement itself pretty easy. Since I have replaced the light engine before, I knew what I was doing for the most part. The trickiest part is getting that LVDS cable off. Squeezing the ends did nothing and I wound up just pulling it out with a bit of force using two needle nose, one on each tab. Once I got it out I realized there are little pins that can be pushed down, but the only way was to push them down by sticking a small flat blade in the gap between the tabs. The cable below it with the grey wires is also in there tight. I just took my time working it out. This is not something I want to do again, so I hope this chip lasts a few years until I am ready to move on to a new TV.
post #2894 of 3106
hello everyone -

I bought the chip about two weeks ago from shop jimmy - Installed it today - took me about 1 1/2 hours - plugged TV back in - crossed my fingers - and ..... screen looks great!

I really appreciate everyone who posted - what a great helpful forum. I'm not the most technical minded, but felt comfortable trying this after reading posts and looking at the helpful video's.

THANK YOU AGAIN!

Benny
post #2895 of 3106
After 5+ years and 3 or so bulbs, I am getting the little white dots. I guess I'll be ordering the chip and doing some TV surgery soon...
post #2896 of 3106
I'm in desperate need of an LVDS cable for a 57HM167. These things cannot be found anywhere! If anyone is still parting out and has one available, please let me know!

Many thanks!
post #2897 of 3106
the video's will walk you through - step by step - good luck
post #2898 of 3106
Just a side note - after replacing the chip - When my TV is on - with no signal, i can see a few hazy shadows - they look similar (one looks the same except upside down from the other) on my screen. I'm guessing that is from when i wiped the glass lamp down with a cloth? should i have used a cleaning solution? Thanks In advance

I really cant see these slight smudges when watching TV - dont know if I need to do anything at all - but I dont remember seeing any suggestions on what/how to clean when inside the unit. There was alot of dust on the lenz
post #2899 of 3106
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Originally Posted by LVDS Hunter View Post

I'm in desperate need of an LVDS cable for a 57HM167. These things cannot be found anywhere! If anyone is still parting out and has one available, please let me know!
Many thanks!

Do to the same problem (not being able to find an LVDS cable), I have scrapped my 65HM167. All other working parts (except a DLP chip that showed about 6 white dots) are up for sale.
post #2900 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Benny5 View Post

Just a side note - after replacing the chip - When my TV is on - with no signal, i can see a few hazy shadows - they look similar (one looks the same except upside down from the other) on my screen. I'm guessing that is from when i wiped the glass lamp down with a cloth? should i have used a cleaning solution? Thanks In advance
I really cant see these slight smudges when watching TV - dont know if I need to do anything at all - but I dont remember seeing any suggestions on what/how to clean when inside the unit. There was alot of dust on the lenz
Use SPRAYWAY found just about everywhere. Dry dusting just pushes dirt around.
post #2901 of 3106
Alright, I'm also in the "brought-my-65HM167-back-from-white-spots-o'-death" club. Many thanks to the previous posters for providing all the info on how to do this. In addition to the info included on the last couple of pages of this thread, here are my observations:

  1. I found the LVDS cable easy to remove. All I did was squeeze the two ends of the connector toward the center of the connector and it pulled right out.
  2. The guy in the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHUzDulS4c) had some difficulty separating the two sides of the casing that the board with the DLP chip is in. This was easy to do using a very small flat headed screwdriver. I believe there were three little square cutouts along the edges of the casing (if I recall correctly, there were two along the top and one on the side toward the bottom) in which I inserted the screwdriver and easily pried the casing apart.
  3. Unlike the dude in the video, I do not recommend using an electric screwdriver- there are not that many screws and using an electric driver creates the risk of stripping screws or cracking the circuit board.

I got my first dots back in April and my TV has been looking like the Milky Way galaxy for the past month or so. Like the others, I got my chip on ShopJimmy for $159 including two-day shipping. All in all, this was a very painless fix to make. Highly recommended.
post #2902 of 3106
I want to thank everyone that contributed to the "fix" for the white/black dot syndrome for my 65HM167. I lurked around here for a few months and then my white dots began. I purchased the chip from Shop Jimmy, installed it today, and voila' a great picture again, just like new. The following three You tube videos were extremely helpful and made the job a lot easier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWRE_k62Ylg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erHUzDulS4c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZfIJ_PBUaQ&feature=channel&list=UL

Blowing the dust off of the lens, I think, helped give the TV screen a sharper and brighter picture too.

My wife is now extremely happy I'm not looking at the 70" Sharp at Sams Club. So I saved over $2000 with a $159 purchase. I'm sure she will find a way to spend it, however. Good luck with your own fix.
post #2903 of 3106
Hi everyone, been a while since I posted in this thread.

I sold my 65HM167 to my dad a while back when a bought a Panasonic 58" VT25 almost 2 years ago.

Months back the bulb blew, its first bulb. It was shattered inside it, but contained by the cover glass. No other issues with TV as far as I know during the year he had it. He didn't like Toshiba's bulb replacement price and their no return policy, so he bought cheap bulbs from Amazon, twice. Big mistake, both never worked in the tv. You could tell they were bad knock offs, plus bulbs weren't even sealed as it had openings to the side of the glass cover. That's very bad considered how the real bulb died by exploding inside and contained by the glass.

With that, he gave up and started looking at new Plasmas in the $1000 range rather than pay Toshiba $280 for something that might not work or break again. Now the Toshiba is sitting in a back room collecting dust and he doesn't want it at this point, taking up space. I'm not sure I have room for the set anywhere, and I don't want to risk the money at this point to replace the bulb at Toshiba's price. I'll have to talk to him about giving it away maybe.

Though, what's this ShopJimmy I hear you guys mention for the chip replacement. They also have the bulb really cheap.

Has anyone ordered their replacement bulb and actually work with this set? What's their return policy if it doesn't?
post #2904 of 3106
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Originally Posted by TimothyB View Post

Hi everyone, been a while since I posted in this thread.
I sold my 65HM167 to my dad a while back when a bought a Panasonic 58" VT25 almost 2 years ago.
Months back the bulb blew, its first bulb. It was shattered inside it, but contained by the cover glass. No other issues with TV as far as I know during the year he had it. He didn't like Toshiba's bulb replacement price and their no return policy, so he bought cheap bulbs from Amazon, twice. Big mistake, both never worked in the tv. You could tell they were bad knock offs, plus bulbs weren't even sealed as it had openings to the side of the glass cover. That's very bad considered how the real bulb died by exploding inside and contained by the glass.
With that, he gave up and started looking at new Plasmas in the $1000 range rather than pay Toshiba $280 for something that might not work or break again. Now the Toshiba is sitting in a back room collecting dust and he doesn't want it at this point, taking up space. I'm not sure I have room for the set anywhere, and I don't want to risk the money at this point to replace the bulb at Toshiba's price. I'll have to talk to him about giving it away maybe.
Though, what's this ShopJimmy I hear you guys mention for the chip replacement. They also have the bulb really cheap.
Has anyone ordered their replacement bulb and actually work with this set? What's their return policy if it doesn't?

ShopJimmy in an online site that sells, among other things, the DLP replacement chip to fix a black and white dot screen problem that occurs with these sets as they get older.

Here's the web site: http://www.shopjimmy.com/samsung-mitsubishi-toshiba-4719-001997-dlp-chip.htm

As to your bulb issue, everyone here seems to recommend Toshiba branded bulbs or Phoenix branded bulbs since they were the OEM manufacturer for Toshiba. I elected not to purchase the ShopJimmy bulb because their Toshiba branded bulb was out of stock and the $60 one was a generic. I just ordered, after some research, a Phoenix bulb from Newegg here:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0790168709

Haven't received it yet but I trust Newegg and their subsidiaries. A new bulb in these sets brings the picture back to like-new condition, if you don't have other issues like dust on the internal lens.
post #2905 of 3106
I bought this lamp: http://www.shopjimmy.com/toshiba?restrictBy[known+models]=Toshiba+Y67-LMP+Bare+DLP+Lamp+%28Bulb+Only%29

The first one blew in 2 months, however they replaced it due to a one year warranty. replacement was quick and easy too. they sent out a new one immediately and it arrived a few days later. I sent back the old one on the prepaid packaging. You could buy two to be safe, I suppose. This one is without the housing, so it's a little more work. It's not much though. They sell it with the housing for $10 more. I'm not sure if it is better, worse or the same as the lamp from newegg. It is cheaper though and comes with a one year warranty. Half the Price, twice the warranty. I actually spend many thousands of dollars a year from newegg for business so I'm a big fan, but I would trust shopjimmy to treat you right based on my experience.
post #2906 of 3106
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Originally Posted by afght19 View Post

I bought this lamp: http://www.shopjimmy.com/toshiba?restrictBy[known+models]=Toshiba+Y67-LMP+Bare+DLP+Lamp+%28Bulb+Only%29
The first one blew in 2 months, however they replaced it due to a one year warranty. replacement was quick and easy too. they sent out a new one immediately and it arrived a few days later. I sent back the old one on the prepaid packaging. You could buy two to be safe, I suppose. This one is without the housing, so it's a little more work. It's not much though. They sell it with the housing for $10 more. I'm not sure if it is better, worse or the same as the lamp from newegg. It is cheaper though and comes with a one year warranty. Half the Price, twice the warranty. I actually spend many thousands of dollars a year from newegg for business so I'm a big fan, but I would trust shopjimmy to treat you right based on my experience.

Received my Newegg bulb yesterday. Housing seems to be generic, bulb was Phoenix. Installed fine and worked without any issues. Probably 25% brighter than my old bulb, so I had to turn down the brightness setting. The old bulb worked well but was getting a little dimmer and took a while to reach full brightness. I wanted to have a new bulb with the new Shopjimmy DLP chip. The set now looks like new.
post #2907 of 3106
I too have been lurking around here for months. My 65" began to turn everything into "...in space" early this year. It's a running joke in the house now. "Hey let's watch the Avengers...in space!" or "it's almost time for the Jaguars to get their ass handed to them...in space!" I chuckle when I see people mention 3 or 6 or a dozen white dots. This is what mine looks like:



So I just bit the bullet and ordered my chip from Jimmy a few minutes ago. I plan to use the wonderful resources in this forum to rejuvenate my celestial TV and I wish to thank all of you in advance. smile.gif

-Chosen1™
post #2908 of 3106
"In SPACE!" LOL cool.gif
post #2909 of 3106
Good luck. Try not to pull the small plugs out by the wires as the guy in the video does. To the extent possible, pull them out at the plug end. Also, some people have had trouble with the LVDS cable. That's the top multi-wire plug you see when you remove the back. Squeeze the plug on the top and bottom to release it. Also, get your vacuum ready. You will probably need it. Let us know how it goes.
post #2910 of 3106
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Originally Posted by ScrewDrvr View Post

got my bulb in, working great so far.....


tv is A LOT brighter now



12,108 on the bulb.


10,xxx on high

2,xxx on low


lpon -1950

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Originally Posted by ScrewDrvr View Post


bulb went out a few days ago, it was a cheap bulb and here are the stats:


power on time = 17125

high = 15139

low -1985


lpon = 2472


temp 1 and 2 = 26


so with a cheap bulb I got ~5000 hours of use on high. Not even a full year since purchase.



Got a real Toshiba bulb in there again and hopefully it last like my first one to over 12k hours on high.


also got one small white dot in the lower right corner.........

just keeping track of my bulb life/progress. Another one bites the dust, around the 20th.

Power On Time = 25879

LAMPL = 1985
LAMPH = 23894

LPON 3615

temp 1 = 40
temp 2 = 43

So looks like I got about 10,700 hours(all on high) from a real Toshiba factory bulb. Not bad at all. I now have a cheap $40 replacment from Electrified in there, ill be happy if I can get 5k like the last cheap one did. Bought an extra one this time, so no more downtime.
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