Official Outlaw Owners thread - Page 181

Just gotta say, I now have 5 years on my Outlaw 2200 monoblocks (7) with thousands of hours of movies and music and they run as like the day I got them. Same with my 2 LFM1-EX subs. Good job Outlaw!

Check out shadyJ's comparison of the EX and HSU VTF-3.3 to the Rythmik: Spent some time comparing a FV12 to my other subs...

Informative read

A friend from the corps came by with Immortals (I dont know how he got it but bootlegged for sure) and dang with Dyn EQ my subs made the most disturbing pop sound. I've decided to stop using Dyn EQ and just raise the MV lol

I just got the Immortals Blu-ray 3D ... How was the movie? Saw really good previews but really bad reviews. I thought the sound & visuals at least should be worthwhile on the new setup.

Hey guys! I finally shipped my Onkyo 609 back and received my new Denon 2312ci. I still have my Outlaw in the box as it has been for over two weeks. I am going to be setting up all weekend. I am heading out now to buy a tripod. I would love a boom handle mic stand, just not feasible though! I will keep alook for one though. Anyhoo, I know it has been asked a million times, but I need to get set up for Audyssey and need to set the sub. There are 200 pages here if someone can link me to what page has what I need to do as far as the sub settings, or can kindly give me some quick info. I think I am looking for -3 reading from Audyssey? I think you set the HZ all the way up on the sub, phase to 0 and the volume at 3 or 5 ? am I close?

Here's a post I put up previously


After pokekevin's recent experience with Audyssey Dynamic EQ, I would also recommend turning that off until you get your system configured correctly and have experimented with it. He's not the first one to experience issues with it and the Outlaw subs.

100% agree. Dyn EQ has been causing some both of my subs to bottom out on several new releases. The sound is just sooo bad when you hear it. Might take the driver out to see if everythings ok.

From what I understand the way that Dynamic EQ works is the louder you turn your main volume up the less Dynamic EQ boosts the signal. So if you get to 0db (reference) Dynamic EQ will not have any affect at all. What receiver are you running? Could you be running your subs too hot? I noticed Dynamic EQ was louder on my Onkyo than my Denon, but there are adjustments you can make to lower how much it boosts the signal. It seems perfect on the Denon, but I had to lower it a bit on the Onkyo. Other than that I have had no problems at all with Dynamic EQ.

That is a shame as I feel dyn eq enhances the audio significantly. Is this measurable? Has anyone made audyssey aware?

I think though it could be just the movie. Some folks are saying immortals is clipping like mad. I think so too because the hulk never gave me problems with dyn eq. I like dyn eq at rlo 5 but with what happened, I decided to turn it off till I can fix it.

Okay I re-calibrated again with gain knob on the sub back to 1. After recalibration undid some of the settings (freq set to 40 and upped it to 80hz for fronts L, C, R), and set speakers to "small" from "LARGE". Then saw the setting for my sub and it was within the sweet spot range of -3db and +3db (-2.5db). Now it's much easier to adjust for movies so I set it to +2db and played again my Top Gun.

Yup.....still feels like that F-14 Tomcat is going to crash through my roof!!!

Thanks cel4145 and pokekevin. Will adjust from the AVR (Marantz SR7005) from now on.

I hope to God the estimated ship date of 3/26/12 on Outlaw Audio website for the EX is for the people who order it now. I ordered mine the last day of the sale like a month ago and it said the 27th of Feb for ship date. It better not be for me or I'm gonna have to shop for a different sub....and I DO NOT want to go through that again.

This sucks!

Haha glad you're pleased with the set up!

Oh one more question...it asks after the setup if I want Dynamic Volume to be ON or OFF. Does it matter? I set it to ON.

I only use dyn vol when its late at night when people are sleeping. 99% of the time I keep it off

Ok thanks. I also did turn off Dynamic Equalizer after you mentioned the problems you had.

Why? Have you had similar problems?

Has anyone made Outlaw aware? Or has anyone just tried to lower the output level during extreme passages?

It has been reported that Audyssey was bringing down the low end 10hz more then it should be. I wasn't sure if this was measurable, rumor, or what. My understanding is that is why its been reported that turning Dynamic EQ off resolves this.

What would you tell Outlaw or am I missing something?

That's not Outlaw's problem. Dynamic EQ is designed to artificially boost frequency ranges based on what Audyssey thinks. As Audyssey describes it, it's a fancy loudness button. Loudness controls that used to be put on receivers were always intended to help at lower volume listening, and then you shut it off at higher volumes.

So at higher listening volumes for movies, why trust a set of algorithms to boost frequencies that makes guesses over the sound engineers that created the audio track? Turn off Dynamic EQ and simply run the volume a few db louder.

ok i moved my HT to a sealed room ,and now my EX rattles and shakes the room to the point i am considering turning it off and not using it
any thing i can do to prevent this?
its sitting on its side

I agree with you that it's neither Outlaw's nor Audyssey's problem.

Oh no not at all but because I'm a "newbie" when it comes to being an audiophile, I just go with the consensus until I know better.

I'm just getting the hang of the terminology and understanding how to tweak my sub-woofer but eventually I'll able to realize that the EQ being off is better...or not.

Put it back to the way it was designed to operate. Why not lower it in the AVR.

Hi pokekevin, curious what was the MV set to with Dyn EQ turned on?

Hi jaramill, I have Dynamic Volume turned on with "Evening" setting for tv viewing only

How to set it to "Evening" setting? Is that a setting particular to your AVR? Mine is the Marantz SR7005.

-15 (w/ rlo at 0/5)

And a subdude may help.

My Denon has Midnight, Evening, Day and Off where as Marantz has it as Heavy, Medium, Light and Off.

There should a button on the receiver (behind door) and a button on the remote.

Or go into Menu -> Audio/Video Adjust -> Audio Adjust -> Audyssey Setting -> Dynamic Vol (set to Medium).