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post #241 of 469
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Originally Posted by DMark1 View Post

Hi Addictaudio,
First, let me say that Bill D. Is an absolute fanatic when it comes to selecting drivers for Legacy speakers, so I'm sure that he thinks very highly of the Dayton RS270 for it's given job in the Signature SE. Bill always uses the best drivers he can find within the parameters of a speakers' price point, and he is constantly testing new drivers. I own a set of 3 Signature SEs, and they sound terrific, with strong and detailed bass performance down to 22 Hz in my room.
I have heard the Classic HDs, and they are excellent for the price, however, the Signature SE is a definite step up, and worth the extra money to get the new AMT tweeters.

Thanks DMark. I wish that I could do all three front speakers with the Signature SE's, as you did, for a seemless match, but I need a conventional center channel. Since the Silverscreen does not have the AMT, I hope that it provides a good match up front with the two Signature SE's. I was told that ideally one would want all tweeters and drivers to match for the three front main speakers. I was told that the AMT will not make it into the Silverscreen or even Marquis, due to size constraints, thus it will not fit.
post #242 of 469
It may take a while, but I believe Bill will probably redesign the center channels to include the AMT tweeters. It would only make sense, and I think the market will basically demand it. Until then, you can run a pair of Signatures, using them to create a phantom center channel. That will work for you in the sweet spot, but those people off axis will have to do without the center channel, unfortunately.

If you can't wait until then, the Silverscreen will be the closest match in the lineup. You should have no trouble with it timbre-matching the Signatures.
post #243 of 469
Yes, it would be ideal for all tweeters to match in all speakers, even the surrounds. I need all five speakers for a home theater set up. If the AMT would trickle to the center and surrounds, even as an option, that would be awesome.
post #244 of 469
The Signature SE stereo pair and Silverscreen HD center are actually a recommended pairing for surround systems in our catalog, available here: http://www.legacyaudio.com/details-insights/catalog/

If you were to remove the faceplate on the Signature SE, you would find that the top tweeter is the same as the one found in the Silverscreen HD center. That is why they will match and perform perfectly well together. There aren't any plans to place the dual AMT system into the Silverscreen HD center.

DMark1 is right on the money- the Signature SE is a definite step up from Classic HD (as is each speaker model when moving up the line).
post #245 of 469
Guys,

Legacy just contacted me and told me that the Signature SE was just named in the "Best of 2012" by HomeTheaterReview.com

The original review by Brian Kahn can be found here: HomeTheaterReview.com Legacy Audio Signature SE Review


Way to go Legacy!!! It's nice to know I own a set of "The Best of 2012" speakers biggrin.gif
post #246 of 469
Awesome news. Cannot imagine how much better it sounds now with the new dual AMT:)
post #247 of 469
Had a great, hour long conversation with Bill Dudleston Friday night. One thing that stood out is that he is REALLY excited about the new Aeris model. He says he's hearing the Aeris do more things "right" than just about any speaker he's ever worked with. He attributes this to the new drivers, (especially the Italian-sourced 8" "titanium-encrusted" mid-woofer), the open baffle design, and the Wavelaunch DSP that comes with the Aeris. He says there is just "something special" going on with this new design.

I haven't heard the Aeris yet, but I'm thinking about taking another trip out to the factory in February, where I'll get to hear it and compare it to the Whisper, and maybe the Focus SE. I'm anxious to hear the AMT tweeters for myself too. Looking forward to it.

Happy Holidays to everyone!
Edited by DMark1 - 12/20/12 at 1:25pm
post #248 of 469
Thread Starter 
What is the retail on the Marquis HD center and the Phantom HD surrounds?
post #249 of 469
The Marquis HD center is $3,550 in standard finish, and the Phantom HD surrounds are $2,750 per pair, in standard finishes.
post #250 of 469
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by JamesAtLegacy View Post

The Marquis HD center is $3,550 in standard finish, and the Phantom HD surrounds are $2,750 per pair, in standard finishes.

Thanks! Would the Marquis HD center be overkill for a pair of Signature SE's? I like a big center channel, and would pay more for more performance - just as long as they blend well together.
post #251 of 469

Whispers
Marquis
post #252 of 469
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Originally Posted by bambam View Post

Thanks! Would the Marquis HD center be overkill for a pair of Signature SE's? I like a big center channel, and would pay more for more performance - just as long as they blend well together.

If I could swing it, I'd love to have a Marquis HD to go with my Signature IIs! I don't think it would be so much a question of "overkill", but rather timbre matching. Generally, I don't think there is anything such as "overkill" with a center channel speaker(for HT), since around 70% of the sound is in the center channel. BTW, I have tried 3 or 4 different center channel speakers, and have yet to find one that sounded as good as just using the Legacy SigIIs in "phantom" mode.
post #253 of 469
I agree, the center channel is the most important channel in a home theater, thus having a Marquis in the system would be a fantastic center to build around.

Personally, I don't think the Marquis would be overkill with Signature SEs, and the timbre match would be fine. However, the Focus SEs (or Aeris, or Whisper) would be the very best match for the Marquis' abilities.

Granted, using your mains in stereo for a "phantom center" does sound great - but only for the one person sitting in the sweet spot! Everyone else would hear the soundtrack being pulled toward whatever speaker they are sitting closest to. That is the beauty of having a center channel - it anchors dialog and action to the screen for more people - even those sitting off-axis. But, if you have no friends or significant other to watch movies with you, feel free to use a "phantom center". Or, watch movies naked for that matter... biggrin.gif
post #254 of 469
I spent Sunday listening to two remarkable Legacy Audio models: The Focus SE and the Signature SE speakers. These are both remarkable speakers, regardless of price. Most listening was done with Audyssey off ,which was great because I got to hear the raw capabilities of the speakers and I also do most of my music listening with Audyssey off. The highs were extremely similar between the speakers. Very likely because they use the same high-frequency technology in their wonderful ribbon tweeters. I think classical music benefited the most from the highs, although of course, it impacts the entire spectrum of music reproduction. I was very impressed with the reproduction of high-frequency material. The midrange was the king of the show, in my opinion. It’s difficult to describe as anything but sublime….the Signature SE speakers were very enveloping, but the Focus SE speakers really dominated. Now, bass extension is where the two speakers were also very close. Both the signautres and focus models went so deep on the Head Fi track “Heartbeat” that the a/b tests of subwoofer on/subwoofer off tests yielded little no difference. The tones in this track go down to around 35Hz—and these speakers handled it with aplomb. One reason I like for the speaker to have great bass extension is that I would like to be able to localize low frequencies down to around 35-40Hz. I think passing along as much information through the channel the data was mixed into comes closest to recreating the mixers intent. So, with either the Signatures or the Focus SE’s, you’re getting great bass extension. Truth follows logic, in the sense that you simply get more with the Focus, but the signature is no slouch. It’s like the difference between a BMW 535 and an M5. The signature SE’s are a darn good performer, and the Focus SE’s soup that performance up, and your remote’s “play” button becomes the “M” button.

I know what I’m shooting for this spring: The Focus SE & Marquis HD combination w/ Studio Surrounds and Width Channels (placed on custom pedestals) 
post #255 of 469
That is a great set up you are working on ...good choice Brolic!
post #256 of 469
I picked up a nice legacy audio silver screen center. older but in near perfect shape. The problem is it's just too big for my setup.

Any one know what its worth? I am thinking of ebaying it.
post #257 of 469
So I just spent some more time with my local shop, who sells Legacy. I have listened to many of their offerings there, but never the pro line. Does anyone know where I can find a price list on the pro stuff, the beast, the wall, skyline 8 and 12?? My guy had no idea, which is weird, but maybe not, cause he doesn't do anything pro, or outside of living room setups really. Curious how the units with CDs and rings compare to the focus/sigs, and what pricing is comparatively. Thanks
post #258 of 469
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Originally Posted by roninphx View Post

I picked up a nice legacy audio silver screen center. older but in near perfect shape. The problem is it's just too big for my setup.

Any one know what its worth? I am thinking of ebaying it.

I just sold my old silver screen ii and 20/20s to a local gentleman......I got around $500 for mine(black ash finish, in good shape)....if that helps any!
post #259 of 469
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Originally Posted by DMark1 View Post

It may take a while, but I believe Bill will probably redesign the center channels to include the AMT tweeters. It would only make sense, and I think the market will basically demand it. Until then, you can run a pair of Signatures, using them to create a phantom center channel. That will work for you in the sweet spot, but those people off axis will have to do without the center channel, unfortunately.

If you can't wait until then, the Silverscreen will be the closest match in the lineup. You should have no trouble with it timbre-matching the Signatures.

I recently purchased the Focus SE and Marquis HD and asked the saem question about the AMT. From what I could gather, the AMT needs to be at ear level for optimal sound and in most cases the center speaker isn't at that level...but knowing Legacy, they will figure a way to get it in there smile.gif..... by the way, the Marquis HD is fricken HEAVY lol......breaking in things now and they sound fantasic out of the box...
post #260 of 469
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Originally Posted by Cutler View Post

I recently purchased the Focus SE and Marquis HD and asked the saem question about the AMT. From what I could gather, the AMT needs to be at ear level for optimal sound and in most cases the center speaker isn't at that level...but knowing Legacy, they will figure a way to get it in there smile.gif..... by the way, the Marquis HD is fricken HEAVY lol......breaking in things now and they sound fantasic out of the box...

Nice!!! Do you have any pics of those beauties?
post #261 of 469
Gentlemen, I hope it's ok to ask here for some advice? I recently purchased a used pair of focus hds and I do love them after having heard sonus fabers, monitor audio, paradigm b&w etc in my price range of not more than 4k..

Originally I heard them through rotel (models unknown) and I had no complaints.
Now, I have a denon avr-3805 and I fully realized they would sound different and that I would need to upgrade. ..soon.

I am inexperienced in this and I was hoping someone could steer me in a good direction. I've done so much reading the past week my brain hurts and I have option anxiety...

I would prefer not to spend more than 3k most likely used, if that's naive please tell me.

It seems I might have to go the integrated route and I've seen a couple of used mcintosh's ma6500s for about 3k, or I could go with the rotel 1570, amp unknown. Should I consider brands like integra, emotiva...anything else?

I mostly listen to prog rock (king crimson, porcupine tree etc), jazz, female vocals (eva cassidy, kate bush, soundtracks and little classical (20th century).

More info that might be necessary:

My music is all FLACs via Sonos using the rca, not the optical. I threw my psb sub and center in the basement as they were not needed. I do have two rear psb bookshelf speakers that I would like to use for movies but music is the most important so using the 2 rears can certainly wait if need be

This noob would greatly appreciate any advice, thank you.
post #262 of 469
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Originally Posted by avas69 View Post

Gentlemen, I hope it's ok to ask here for some advice? I recently purchased a used pair of focus hds and I do love them after having heard sonus fabers, monitor audio, paradigm b&w etc in my price range of not more than 4k..

Originally I heard them through rotel (models unknown) and I had no complaints.
Now, I have a denon avr-3805 and I fully realized they would sound different and that I would need to upgrade. ..soon.

I am inexperienced in this and I was hoping someone could steer me in a good direction. I've done so much reading the past week my brain hurts and I have option anxiety...

I would prefer not to spend more than 3k most likely used, if that's naive please tell me.

It seems I might have to go the integrated route and I've seen a couple of used mcintosh's ma6500s for about 3k, or I could go with the rotel 1570, amp unknown. Should I consider brands like integra, emotiva...anything else?

I mostly listen to prog rock (king crimson, porcupine tree etc), jazz, female vocals (eva cassidy, kate bush, soundtracks and little classical (20th century).

More info that might be necessary:

My music is all FLACs via Sonos using the rca, not the optical. I threw my psb sub and center in the basement as they were not needed. I do have two rear psb bookshelf speakers that I would like to use for movies but music is the most important so using the 2 rears can certainly wait if need be

This noob would greatly appreciate any advice, thank you.

I'd try hooking a used McCormack DNA-1 or DNA-250 up to that denon and see how you like it. I am using a McCormack DNA-1 Deluxe with my Legacy Signature IIs, along with my Onkyo receiver, and it sounds great to me. Make sure and use quality interconnects between the Denon and the power amp. If you still are not satisfied, you can get a separate pre-amp or pre-pro.
post #263 of 469
As far as amps go, the Emotiva XPA-1 is an incredible deal at $999 for 1000watts @ 4ohms (even better when they run a sale at $899 or $849). Really low noise floor with my Focus SEs, lots of power and slam, yet they also sound great on solo piano, orchestral pieces, acoustic guitar, violin, and female vocals are my favorites too, from Sade, Diana Krall, Anita Baker and Norah Jones and Joss Stone, to Renee Fleming, Charlotte Church, Alison Krauss, Eva Cassidy and Jonatha Brooke etc.

And the XPA-1's have enough headroom to do the Focus SEs justice. They already have some of the lowest distortion measurements around and for the price, nothing comes close.


Max
post #264 of 469
I run my Focus SEs and Marquis HD with Wyred4Sound class D amps with great results. At one point I auditioned Emotiva XPA-1's and while they are excellent amps, I felt the Wyred amps were smoother and more refined sounding without giving up any of the killer dynamics and openness of the Emotivas.
post #265 of 469
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

I'd try hooking a used McCormack DNA-1 or DNA-250 up to that denon and see how you like it.

From what I've read that sounds like a good possibility, thanks!
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Originally Posted by djbluemax1 View Post

As far as amps go, the Emotiva XPA-1 is an incredible deal at $999 for 1000watts @ 4ohms


Max

I read about those, thanks but I would prefer something that is mostly made in the U.S.


I've managed to quite a bit of reading today and it looking like Odyssey Stratos, Mccormack DNA-250 or Bryston 4BS...and I'm curious about the integrated Mcintosh ma6500.

Thanks for your time and advice gentlemen.
post #266 of 469
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Originally Posted by avas69 View Post


I've managed to quite a bit of reading today and it looking like Odyssey Stratos, Mccormack DNA-250 or Bryston 4BS...and I'm curious about the integrated Mcintosh ma6500.

Thanks for your time and advice gentlemen.

I also ran my Focus SE's with a stereo Odyssey Stratos Extreme with very good results, although I felt it lacked slightly in dynamics and bass control compared to my Wyred amp. The voicing of the Stratos is just a tad warm, which complements the Focus SE's neutral tone nicely.
post #267 of 469
BTW, there is a McCormack DNA-250 available on Audiogon now. Quite tempting, actually.
post #268 of 469
Hi ChopShop1,

You can email us at our contact page- http://www.legacyaudio.com/contact/ ,and we will send you the requested pro information. We do have customers who use our pro audio solutions in their homes- mainly Beast and The Wall. If you're ever in central IL, stop by the giant screen theater to hear doubleHELIX !

avas69- it sounds like you've received great advice from the forum.
Let us know if you have any further questions!

Best,
James
post #269 of 469
Thanks y'all.

It looks like I'm headed towards the mac mx130 & the mc7205 if the bidding goes my way. Thoughts?
post #270 of 469
Either should work just fine with Legacy speakers. Good luck with the bidding!
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