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post #151 of 3097
I've got 3 Sierras across the front in my HT and another pair for my 2 channel rig. Haven't listened to/watched a movie yet but for the Jewel concert I watched yesterday the vocals were mesmerizing.
post #152 of 3097
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Do you prefer your Ref 1s to 340SEs for both movies and music?

I didn't have both in my house at the same time, but I liked the Ref 1 a bit better than the 340SE primarly b/c of bass. That lil 5.25" on the Ref 1 was great. Both were great all around performers, but I woulda picked the Ref 1 over the 340 b/c of the bass. Its interesting to hear that the Sierras have even better bass than the Ref 1.
post #153 of 3097
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Originally Posted by badassfajita View Post

I didn't have both in my house at the same time, but I liked the Ref 1 a bit better than the 340SE primarly b/c of bass. That lil 5.25" on the Ref 1 was great. Both were great all around performers, but I woulda picked the Ref 1 over the 340 b/c of the bass. Its interesting to hear that the Sierras have even better bass than the Ref 1.

Yes...I agree the Ref 1 has better bass than the 340 classics when I compared the two, eventhough the 340SE has a bit better bass than the classic(I did like the mids better), I still think the Ref 1 went deeper. The Sierra is definitely a whole different ballgame...at least as deep, but punchier/more articulate.
post #154 of 3097
Come you guys that have received the Sierra-1s start telling us what they sound like!
post #155 of 3097
I don't think anyone wants this thread shut down. Try the Ascend Forum to see what the folks who have them are saying.
post #156 of 3097
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Originally Posted by Tex-amp View Post

I don't think anyone wants this thread shut down. Try the Ascend Forum to see what the folks who have them are saying.

I think it's ludicrous that it has come to that.
post #157 of 3097
Frankly, I'm not sure what the point of any of this is then. So, a thread about speakers can't actually talk about... the speakers. How bloody absurd.
post #158 of 3097
I know that I have pretty quiet about the Sierra around here because I don't want it viewed as hype. In my almost two weeks with them, I think they are exceptional.

Quite frankly, I want to compare it to some upper echelon bookshelves to see where it falls in line.

One gentleman that visited my place this past Sunday with his wife posted here:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...86&postcount=9
post #159 of 3097
I'd like to think the initial clamp-down was do the fact no one had actually heard them yet fans and foes were offering opinions.
post #160 of 3097
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Originally Posted by ericgl View Post

I'd like to think the initial clamp-down was do the fact no one had actually heard them yet fans and foes were offering opinions.

True, and I think alot of that has to do with the designer's previous success, BUT, how many threads are there on AVS in anticipation of new electronics that have not been heard. Quite a few by my count.
post #161 of 3097
Does anyone have the specs of these mythical loudspeakers? Such as driver complement? crossover frequency? f3 tuning? size? Power handling? Efficiency? Price? I see that the Ascend web site does not list them or offer any specs (Yea I read the Ascend guys comments).

I assume that one of you owners has a manual that lists all the information. Don't bother posting a link to the Ascend forum.

I only called them mythical because of the lack of concrete information on them.
post #162 of 3097
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Originally Posted by sterankoman View Post

Don't bother posting a link to the Ascend forum.

Well...that is where all the info is...posted by David Fabrikant, the head dude at Ascend, so it is pretty concrete.

Read all the stickies here:
http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2
post #163 of 3097
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Originally Posted by sterankoman View Post

Does anyone have the specs of these mythical loudspeakers? Such as driver complement? crossover frequency? f3 tuning? size? Power handling? Efficiency? Price? I see that the Ascend web site does not list them or offer any specs (Yea I read the Ascend guys comments).

I assume that one of you owners has a manual that lists all the information. Don't bother posting a link to the Ascend forum.

I only called them mythical because of the lack of concrete information on them.

Do you really want to know, or are you just being confrontational?

FWIW (and IMO) reading specs to determine how a speaker sounds is a little like reading nutritional content to determine how a food tastes.
post #164 of 3097
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Originally Posted by sterankoman View Post

Does anyone have the specs of these mythical loudspeakers? Such as driver complement? crossover frequency? f3 tuning? size? Power handling? Efficiency? Price? I see that the Ascend web site does not list them or offer any specs (Yea I read the Ascend guys comments).

I assume that one of you owners has a manual that lists all the information. Don't bother posting a link to the Ascend forum.

I only called them mythical because of the lack of concrete information on them.

Well they certainly AREN'T mythical, but I do understand a bit of frustration in regards to specs and stuff, which Dave F has TRIED to convey as best as possible (there are specs available, but they haven't been listed yet on the site).

I personally prefer the method being used, pump out as many as ya can, to try and catch up, instead of wasting time putting them on the site(Dave has to check all that PERSONALLY BEFORE he allows it to be posted on the site)......they are obviously selling VERY well, so well AAMOF, that they have no time to do it yet....

Small company, big orders on an introductory product= something has to give........ I'd rather it be the PR myself......

Funny thing is.... folks don't have concrete evidence, yet they are flying off the shelves faster than they can build them..... tells me that folks know that Dave has quality as his #1 priority.

Keep building them Dave, when you guys have time, update the site.
post #165 of 3097
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Originally Posted by sterankoman View Post

Does anyone have the specs of these mythical loudspeakers? Such as driver complement? crossover frequency? f3 tuning? size? Power handling? Efficiency? Price? I see that the Ascend web site does not list them or offer any specs (Yea I read the Ascend guys comments). I assume that one of you owners has a manual that lists all the information. Don't bother posting a link to the Ascend forum. I only called them mythical because of the lack of concrete information on them.

My apologies in advance... All of the information you are looking for is posted by me in our forum. I had *thought* the site updates were ready but I needed to make a few corrections. Provided all looks good, the site should be updated by tomorrow morning.

I have a family member who has just had major surgery (yesterday) so I am a bit behind in everything right now. Thankfully, that seems to have gone well -- no excuses though, getting the Sierra-1 on our site is # 1 priority right now...

If you are interested in detailed info on the speakers, please feel free to send me a PM or give us a call directly, I would be more than happy to answer your questions.
post #166 of 3097
I was the second person to own a set of Sierras and I've posted my thoughts on them on the Ascend forum. But for those who wish to read some impressions here I would say that I am completely happy with these speakers. I work at a retail audio/video store that sells speakers anywhere from $200 - $10,000 a pair, and I would say that even with a 50% discount, there is nothing I would get over these Sierras. Some of the brands we carry are Monitor Audio, Vienna Acoustics, and Martin Logan.

They really take everything I liked about the 340SE (detailed, neutral sound) and take it a step further. The Sierras have extended detailed highs but are completely and totally smooth. If you look at the spectral decay measurements that Dave posted, you can see how clean the treble is. The layered bamboo cabinet provides as solid and free of resonance as any speaker I've seen at twice the price.

The bass extension is also very impressive, somewhere between 35-38hz in my room. It is very punchy and not boomy at all. You can easily listen to these with out a sub for music, although I am now that I have a JL Fathom F112.

The imaging and soundstage are also excellent. Keep in mind they are bookshelf speakers and probably have some limitations. They are a little bit less efficient than previous Ascend speakers. But that was necessary to give them the deeper bass. I have taken them up to -10dB on my Denon 2805 and heard no distortion.
post #167 of 3097
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Originally Posted by cschang View Post

I know that I have pretty quiet about the Sierra around here because I don't want it viewed as hype. In my almost two weeks with them, I think they are exceptional.

Quite frankly, I want to compare it to some upper echelon bookshelves to see where it falls in line.

One gentleman that visited my place this past Sunday with his wife posted here:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...86&postcount=9


What puzzles me is that how can it be hype if you have the opportunity to buy and return in 30 days if you don't like them. I would think someone with average intelligence would research a product first whether professional reviews, individual opinions on various forums, trade shows, magazines etc etc before they pull the trigger.
post #168 of 3097
TYVM XCJAGO.. who would've thought...... a guy that has access to very well respected speakers,at a discount.......... buys the Sierra, and would have nothing else.

EMBARRASSING

Edit: Spelling
post #169 of 3097
xcjago: I think you tried to sell me speakers once--I know where you work.

And yes, I have Ascends.

I never thought the $1,200 Vienna Acoustic speakers sounded as good as the 340s. You guys do not carry anythings, as far as I can tell, that competes at all with the Sierras.
post #170 of 3097
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Originally Posted by xcjago View Post

I was the second person to own a set of Sierras and I've posted my thoughts on them on the Ascend forum. But for those who wish to read some impressions here I would say that I am completely happy with these speakers. I work at a retail audio/video store that sells speakers anywhere from $200 - $10,000 a pair, and I would say that even with a 50% discount, there is nothing I would get over these Sierras. Some of the brands we carry are Monitor Audio, Vienna Acoustics, and Martin Logan.

They really take everything I liked about the 340SE (detailed, neutral sound) and take it a step further. The Sierras have extended detailed highs but are completely and totally smooth. If you look at the spectral decay measurements that Dave posted, you can see how clean the treble is. The layered bamboo cabinet provides as solid and free of resonance as any speaker I've seen at twice the price.

The bass extension is also very impressive, somewhere between 35-38hz in my room. It is very punchy and not boomy at all. You can easily listen to these with out a sub for music, although I am now that I have a JL Fathom F112.

The imaging and soundstage are also excellent. Keep in mind they are bookshelf speakers and probably have some limitations. They are a little bit less efficient than previous Ascend speakers. But that was necessary to give them the deeper bass. I have taken them up to -10dB on my Denon 2805 and heard no distortion.

OK I drank enough of the kool-aid, I'm in. As soon as I get home from this work trip I'm on Dave's getting a phone call.
post #171 of 3097
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Originally Posted by Russdawg View Post

OK I drank enough of the kool-aid, I'm in. As soon as I get home from this work trip I'm on Dave's getting a phone call.

LOL!

Seriously Russ...you can just listen to mine. mziegler and xcjago are also in the area.
post #172 of 3097
question for all you that own these speakers. i am fixing to move in my new home and i will have a dedicated room which is 14x26 9' foot ceiling i want to do 7.1 but to start with it will be 5.1 so now the question will these speakers have any problem playing at reference level in this size room i am used to m&k speakers my last set was the 150's but had tosell them a few years ago now i find out they are no longer in bussiness i listen to music but really buying for home theater the sub will be svs pb12 2 plus thanks for the help also open for sugestions
post #173 of 3097
I'd love to hear Russ' thoughts vs. his Sigs.
post #174 of 3097
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Originally Posted by ericgl View Post

I'd love to hear Russ' thoughts vs. his Sigs.

I still got Studio 20's which these will be replacing in my office. So I will be able to give a direct comparison to those as well as the sig's.

I always liked Ascend very much but thought they were butt-ugly, that's why I didn't even keep the 340/170's I demoed way back.

The Sierra's address this issue nicely and the piano black was exactly what I have been looking for in the looks dept so these should work really well.
post #175 of 3097
Just noticed that the Sierras are now fully posted on Acend's website for ordering online.
post #176 of 3097
SIERRA-1 SPECIFICATIONS...

Specifications


Typical In-Room Frequency Response 39Hz - 22kHz ± 3dB
In-Room Sensitivity 87dB @ 1 watt / 1 meter
Frequency Response (Anechoic) 44Hz - 22kHz ± 3dB
Sensitivity (Anechoic) 86.5dB @ 1 watt / 1 meter
Average Impedance 8 ohms
Minimum Recommended Power 45 watts
Maximum Continuous Power* 200 watts
Maximum Short Term Peak Power* 400 watts

Cabinet Exclusive V-LAM construction featuring vertically laminated bamboo. Bass reflex via flared rear port tube

Dimensions H x W x D** 14.25" x 7.5" x 10.5"
Weight (each) 20 lbs each
Shipping Weight (pair) 43 lbs per pair

Tweeter (1) 26mm high-definition soft dome tweeter w/integrated elastomer wave guide, wide surround, low-viscosity magnetic fluid cooling, pole-piece damping chamber. Fully manufactured by SEAS of Norway

Woofer (1) proprietary 5.25 long throw mineral-filled polypropylene cone, non-resonant cast aluminum frame, copper shorting rings, low-inductance motor assembly, vented pole-piece and vented spider.

Connectors (2) gold plated all metal 5 way binding posts.
Inserts (1) ¼ x 20 inserts for mounting to stands

Warranty 7 year parts and labor

*Unclipped peaks **Grille Off


Very impressive specifications especially -3db @ 39hz in a typical room for a 5" woofer. The cabinet is large for a 5" woofer, but it appears thats where the deep bass comes from.

The bamboo finish kinda grows on you.
post #177 of 3097
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Originally Posted by Russdawg View Post

I still got Studio 20's which these will be replacing in my office. So I will be able to give a direct comparison to those as well as the sig's.

I'll be curious to hear what your thoughts are.

J.
post #178 of 3097
post #179 of 3097
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Originally Posted by lewis1 View Post

question for all you that own these speakers. i am fixing to move in my new home and i will have a dedicated room which is 14x26 9' foot ceiling i want to do 7.1 but to start with it will be 5.1 so now the question will these speakers have any problem playing at reference level in this size room i am used to m&k speakers my last set was the 150's but had tosell them a few years ago now i find out they are no longer in bussiness i listen to music but really buying for home theater the sub will be svs pb12 2 plus thanks for the help also open for sugestions

I don't think you will have a problem, but give Ascend a call. DavidF is very familiar with the M&K products, in fact, I think he worked on the 150. He will give you straight answers.
post #180 of 3097
I drank from the happy pitcher and gave my CC number. Now awaiting 3 B-stock Sierra-1s to come available.
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