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post #1021 of 1116
3/4/08 at 6:14am
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Originally Posted by dopke View Post

For connecting a laptop to the TV, if I use a VGA -> Component cable, how do I get audio to the TV?

you can get a cable from wal-mart, its a head phone plug in on one end and audio (red and white) on the other.
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post #1022 of 1116
3/5/08 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by dougzer0 View Post

target.com has Psyclone brand new component/optical cables... ordering from there

Got the fat ps2 connected thru Sony/PS3 brand component cables and the picture is excellent both 480i/480p. Syphon Filter Dark Mirror is excellent. The Xbox cables were shipped yesterday I expect a similar result.

The dreamcast VGA cable didn't work at all on any monitor I tried. The vendor said I can exchange it. In the meantime ordered an S-video cable.

The Gamecube over s-video is much better than composite and comparable to Wii/component believe it or not, tho still not near tube quality, but good enough. Not going to spend $50-$100 on gamecube component cables, might as well get another Wii/component in that case.

Don't think I need to get that Gefen TV Scaler Pro external scaler for $699 after all, at least will wait till reviews of it come in.

I just realized that since i'm using the S3000 as a computer monitor that I should try streaming Netflix movies to it ... will report back on my experience. From what I read on the site streaming movies is free as part of my monthly membership (2 movie plan), so if they look decent enough can't beat all you can watch free movies. For movies I really want to watch will still get those on blu-ray tho and watch on the bigger screen.
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post #1023 of 1116
3/16/08 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by Hubology Now View Post

I don't have any obvious issues with the blacklight/corner bleeding - if it's there, it doesn't bother me at all. My problem is with the banding, and I would gladly take a bright corner or two in favour of this nonsense.

I was just playing the Devil May Cry 4 demo on my PS3 and it's BAND CITY. Christ, I was fine with tolerating a bit of banding during inconsequential gameplay, but this is painfully obvious in some scenes and somewhat distracting in others. If you'll do me a favour, Sleep Tree (or any other KDL32S3000 owner with a PS3), could you download that demo and play the second mode (Berial), and let me know if you notice visible banding in the gray skyline where you confront the ice enemies? That's where it's just sticks out like a sore thumb, and if I look closely I can notice horizontal lines on the screen in both the upper and lower halves. It's very strange, and it's very distracting.

Samples taken with my camera:
http://i31.tinypic.com/5n3xph.jpg
http://i26.tinypic.com/n4bibn.jpg
http://i28.tinypic.com/20pskts.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/2evyosg.jpg

The pictures show the banding surprisingly well. It's even more obvious in person.

Again, settings are standard.

This is going back. I really should have done more research on this stuff. I don't know if I should refund it entirely, eating the $50 shipping charge, or exchange for another unit that will probably have the same issue.

Edit: What's odd is during the cut-scenes, which are definitely in real-time, the banding goes away completely. I'm at a complete loss! The picture displayed by this panel can go from GORGEOUS to vomit-inducing with a scene change. At first I thought I was just being too picky, but if I have to worry about every new game or movie I purchase having banding issues, forget about it; there's no sense in keeping this thing. It's a damned, bloody shame.

I see the same thing, but its the game itself not the tv so don't worry. because it doesn't happen with any other movies or games so far.
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post #1024 of 1116
3/16/08 at 10:37am
After days of searching through this forum I finally brought the 32s3000. I made sure to test it out for clouding, light bleeding, no noises coming from the back of the Tv and the set is perfect. The build date is November 2007, and the setting from the calibration thread have helped alot.

I know that the TV is 720p Native. However, when the TV displays that its being shown in 1080p. And I don't understand why? Should I leave it the way it is or should I force the PS3 to output in 720p only?
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post #1025 of 1116
3/16/08 at 10:46am
The "display" shows the resolution of the incoming signal. Whatever it receives, it converts to its native resolution (might be 720p, or 768p - I forgot). You're okay letting the TV do the converting and outputting 1080p from the PS3. If you play games on the PS3, some are 720p-only or 1080p-only, and if you have that resolution output disabled you'll only get 480p as the PS3 doesn't scale HD games to other HD resolutions like the Xbox 360 does.
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post #1026 of 1116
3/16/08 at 5:58pm
I just inherited a KDL-32S3000 and am trying to set it up. I do not have cable or satellite but rather an antenna and a simple VCR-DVD. Everything works and looks great except for one thing. I cannot get the PIP to work. I have the VCR out cable going into the UHF/VHF inputs. I also have cables going from the VCR into the TV video and audio inputs. Under INPUT I have chosen VCR but when I then hit option on the remote, I do not get a PIP option. Am I missing something?
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post #1027 of 1116
3/17/08 at 10:41am
I have the 32S3000, and though I had it for awhile, I'm a bit confused why it has a 8-bit display and 10-bit processing...is there a point into it? Kinda seems pointless to me unless the TV comes with a 10-bit panel. TV picture still looks great, no complaints, I'm just wondering why if anyone knows.
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post #1028 of 1116
3/18/08 at 9:50am
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Originally Posted by mmeisler View Post

I just inherited a KDL-32S3000 and am trying to set it up. I do not have cable or satellite but rather an antenna and a simple VCR-DVD. Everything works and looks great except for one thing. I cannot get the PIP to work. I have the VCR out cable going into the UHF/VHF inputs. I also have cables going from the VCR into the TV video and audio inputs. Under INPUT I have chosen VCR but when I then hit option on the remote, I do not get a PIP option. Am I missing something?

You can only do PIP/P&P with component, HDMI, or PC on one input and the TVs built in tuner on the other. If you have a VCR or satellite receiver with one of these outputs, then you can watch 2 TV signals. This model doesn't have a dual tuner, and it doesn't let you do PIP through composite inputs. At least that is the way I understand from the manual.
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post #1029 of 1116
3/19/08 at 3:43pm
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Originally Posted by cj1999y2j View Post

I am glad to know someone else has the issue. Not glad someone is having it, in that sense (I don't wish issues on anyone) but at least it's comforting to know I don't have a unique "never heard of before" issue.

So it sounds like you and I are in the same boat. I definitely encourage getting the TV taken care of soon. Of course, the repair service that you use may vary in its quality of service, but since Sony is footing the bill, you might as well get it repaired now.

Make sure you have your receipt that proves the date you bought the TV, and get a copy of it. Sounds like standard procedure, but the repair man told me Sony is big on that, and he said you'd be surprised at how many people don't think to get this information in advance. (Plus copying it in advance, and showing the repair man the original so he knows the copy is genuine, saves some time, too.)

Anyway, I get my TV back in 12 hours so I'll see how it looks then.

Well, finally I started the RMA process on Sunday, and they have already shipped the replacement. Once I receive it, I am going to send it back the defective one with pre-paid shipping label. Seems like the process is painless. I'll keep you posted.
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post #1030 of 1116
3/21/08 at 4:08pm
I saw the 46s3000 at Costco. Reviews seemed to be good. What is the overall opinion on motion blur?

Costco also has the new 47" Vizio at the same price. It is going to be a choice between these two. Vizio is a 1080P with a 5ms refresh rate. I think the contrast was much better on the Sony however.
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post #1031 of 1116
3/21/08 at 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by GebLX View Post

I have the 32S3000, and though I had it for awhile, I'm a bit confused why it has a 8-bit display and 10-bit processing...is there a point into it? Kinda seems pointless to me unless the TV comes with a 10-bit panel. TV picture still looks great, no complaints, I'm just wondering why if anyone knows.

Surprised that noone has answered this yet. When I first saw the tv's with "10-bit processing, 8-bit display", the same thought crossed my mind. I believe it still creates a better picture, because at the end of the day, the picture you see with these LCD's is all about the processing.

So with Blu-Ray for example, a panel with 8-bit processing would not be able to process as many colors as a 10-bit, so the 10-bit is able to achieve a better picture because it was able to take in the most information and decide what looks best, versus the 8-bit which was never able to process as many colors to begin with.
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post #1032 of 1116
3/27/08 at 8:22pm
I have the KDL-40S3000. I have a 360 and mainly play first person shooters.
Connected via component cables not HDMI. I have had no problems. FPSs look fantastic.
Bioshock, COD2,3 and 4. Rainbow 6 Vegas. GRAW2. Gears. FEAR. ALL great.
I have not seen any tearing or noticeable motion blur. I do sit about 7 to 8 feet from the TV. If you sit too close, like 2 feet, you will see the blur. HD and SD TV signals both look great as well.
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post #1033 of 1116
3/27/08 at 9:37pm
So I finally nailed the purchase on the Sony 40s3000 yesterday and i'm extremely happy I did. With absolutely no light on this tv shines. XBOX 360 in 1080i looks fantastic and I played NHL 08 for hours today just in awe looking at the picture. Was able to get this at the Sony Store for 1199 Canadian. Only complaint so far is that the reds don't come out as well as i'd hope, but its only a minor flaw. Some hockey games in SD don't look superb, but people have to consider that some NHL arenas look really bad because of the lighting inside and it doesn't translate to a good picture on tv. All in all i'm very happy.
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post #1034 of 1116
3/27/08 at 10:02pm
Great! Make sure you're not using the "Vivid/Dynamic" picture mode, as it exaggereates colors, noise/artifacts, etc., making especially SD material look much worse.
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post #1035 of 1116
3/28/08 at 4:58pm
I am really enjoying me KDL 46S3000. My buddy at work recommended coming here for an answer to my question. I attached my notebook to the TV using RGB cable purchased seperately (both Male). Then I hooked the sound from the TV input (next to the RGB cable) and then to the Earphone Out Jack on the notebook using a cord with 2 male stereo earphone plugs. The picture was impressive when I played a DVD on the notebook. Such video clarity on a screen which is so much bigger.

Problem is there is no sound what so ever. no hum. no hiss. no nothing! even with volume control full blast on both the TV and Notebook. I expect (or should I say hope) that it is just some simple setting. By the way I also tried putting the sound plug into the in the inputs on the side of the screen also but still no results.

Any recomendations for solution or even diagnostic.

I want to use it to view my Net Flix instant download movies.

thanks in advance for your consideration.
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post #1036 of 1116
3/28/08 at 5:53pm
Can you clarify how you have the audio hooked up?

Is this correct?
*You have VGA going from the laptop to the TV.
*You have headphone out jack from the computer going into the RCA inputs on the TV?


Have you checked the volume/audio settings in the computer? Are you sure you're hooked to the headphone out, and not the mic in or something?
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post #1037 of 1116
3/28/08 at 6:01pm
yes that is right. if a rca plug is the same as a stereo headset plug. yes i have checked the correct jack because it muted my speaker sound thinking i had plugged in headsets. When I pull the plug the sound does come out my notebook speakers.

Just took a look at your photos. I imagine you can scare the neighbors with those speakers.

The audio settings on the computer are set to make sound come out the speakers loudest possible.

To test, if i remember back in the days when i was a field radio repairman in the army. If i were to set the tv to pc input, then touch my finger to the center contact on the sound plug that should be going to my computer it should make a hum right? I'll go try that now. didn't work. any suggestions?
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post #1038 of 1116
3/28/08 at 8:28pm
So one end of the cable is a single metal pin that fits the headphone jack? And the other end is the same kind of plug, and you have it plugged in right beneath the VGA input?

Here's the back panel - go to page 14
http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/So...KDL46S3000.pdf
You have it plugged into #3, right?
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post #1039 of 1116
3/28/08 at 9:48pm
What cyberbri stated is correct, you have to use the audio input that is paired with the same video input you are using, in the case of the computer input it will be a stereo mini jack like on your laptop. It's not a pair of RCA jacks.
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post #1040 of 1116
3/29/08 at 12:11am
I had picture quality issues when connecting my PC with a Geforce 7950 GT OC to my 32S3000 with a 6' Dynex PC monitor replacement cable. The highest resolution the tv was capable of looked terrible and was blurry to boot, and although it looked sharp on lesser resolutions there was a ghost image where you'd have an echo of a window edge here and there. It's the same sort of thing you see if you connect a vga extension cable that is too long to your PC monitor, you'll see a double image in spots along window edges, blurriness, etc. Plus I'd notice what looked like random pixels on the screen going black and then they'd be fine the next minute. So I don't know if I need to purchase a better quality cable to remedy these problems. Anyone encountered these issues when using the tv as a PC monitor.
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post #1041 of 1116
3/29/08 at 7:12pm
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

So one end of the cable is a single metal pin that fits the headphone jack? And the other end is the same kind of plug, and you have it plugged in right beneath the VGA input?

Here's the back panel - go to page 14
You have it plugged into #3, right?


Yes that is correct. I then choose pc input. the picture is great. no sound.
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post #1042 of 1116
3/29/08 at 7:27pm
Have you tried plugging headphones or computer speakers into the same audio output on the PC?

Have you tried a different cable? Maybe the one you have is bad.

Are there settings in the TV itself you need to check to get audio from the PC input?
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post #1043 of 1116
3/29/08 at 11:57pm
Yes, the KDL 46S3000 is 720p native.
I have Directv HD on HDMI 1 and a Sony Blu-ray on HDMI 2.
I'm not clear as to why one would send 1080 into the TV (although the documentation says that it recognizes the 1080 signal and also indicates it on the screen) as it would seem the the TV would just convert the signal down to 720p.
Is there any reason to send 1080 to the TV or would it be better just to send 720?
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post #1044 of 1116
3/29/08 at 11:58pm
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Originally Posted by googleme7 View Post

Surprised that noone has answered this yet. When I first saw the tv's with "10-bit processing, 8-bit display", the same thought crossed my mind. I believe it still creates a better picture, because at the end of the day, the picture you see with these LCD's is all about the processing.

So with Blu-Ray for example, a panel with 8-bit processing would not be able to process as many colors as a 10-bit, so the 10-bit is able to achieve a better picture because it was able to take in the most information and decide what looks best, versus the 8-bit which was never able to process as many colors to begin with.

Thanks...almost forgot about this question.
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post #1045 of 1116
3/30/08 at 10:02am
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Originally Posted by MikeDrips View Post

Yes, the KDL 46S3000 is 720p native.
I have Directv HD on HDMI 1 and a Sony Blu-ray on HDMI 2.
I'm not clear as to why one would send 1080 into the TV (although the documentation says that it recognizes the 1080 signal and also indicates it on the screen) as it would seem the the TV would just convert the signal down to 720p.
Is there any reason to send 1080 to the TV or would it be better just to send 720?


Because there will be scaling of a 1080 signal, it comes down to what does the best scaling? For example, the TV should probably do a better job of taking 1080i and scaling to 720p (might actually be 1360x768 or something) than your HD cable box. I know that's been the case for me. So you'd want to feed the TV the raw 1080i signal from the cable box for those 1080i channels. For 720p channels, feed the TV that actual 720p signal, so your cable box doesn't upscale to 1080i so the TV has to scale back down.
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post #1046 of 1116
3/30/08 at 10:05am
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Originally Posted by MikeDrips View Post

Yes, the KDL 46S3000 is 720p native.
I have Directv HD on HDMI 1 and a Sony Blu-ray on HDMI 2.
I'm not clear as to why one would send 1080 into the TV (although the documentation says that it recognizes the 1080 signal and also indicates it on the screen) as it would seem the the TV would just convert the signal down to 720p.
Is there any reason to send 1080 to the TV or would it be better just to send 720?

You would want to send the highest signal possible and let the tv downconvert it. These LCD TV's are not really 720p, they are 1366 x 768p (vs 1280 x 720p). So, if you send it a 720p signal, it will still upscale it to 768, but if you send it a 1080 signal, it will downconvert it to 768.

So if you set your cable box or whatever to output in 720, it will downconvert a 1080 source to 720 and the tv will upconvert it to 768. That is two conversions now (not even counting what cable is doing to the signal just to pass it through in the first place).
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post #1047 of 1116
3/31/08 at 5:06pm
Hello,
Is it possible to have the wake up timer use an HDMI input rather than the RF input? I seem to be only able to select the RF.

Thanks
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post #1048 of 1116
3/31/08 at 7:15pm
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Originally Posted by googleme7 View Post

You would want to send the highest signal possible and let the tv downconvert it. These LCD TV's are not really 720p, they are 1366 x 768p (vs 1280 x 720p). So, if you send it a 720p signal, it will still upscale it to 768, but if you send it a 1080 signal, it will downconvert it to 768.

So if you set your cable box or whatever to output in 720, it will downconvert a 1080 source to 720 and the tv will upconvert it to 768. That is two conversions now (not even counting what cable is doing to the signal just to pass it through in the first place).

Yes. And if the channel itself is in 720p (like Fox, ABC), output in 720p not 1080i, so there's no 720p -> 1080i -> 768 conversion.
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post #1049 of 1116
4/1/08 at 8:31am
Question to anyone out there - I purchased the Costco version of the KDL 32S3000 after returning a 32" Sharp. The picture is great but I have had problems with the set interpreting the HD signal that I receive via my OTA antenna. NBC broadcasts digitally and the set indicates that I am receiving a 1080i 16:9 picture which is clearly HD and is breathtaking. This morning when I turned on the set, although the set indicated that the pictrure was 1080i 16:9, the was letterboxing on the sides. It was not until I went through the menu that the picture "defaulted" back to the HD (don't know what I did). The other thing (and this concerns me) is that I have had the set change from the sidebars to the full screen and then there is a loud "pop" as the picture chanages. Is this anything to be worried about? This is my 1st HDTV (my others are HD ready). Thanks
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post #1050 of 1116
4/1/08 at 8:39am
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Originally Posted by Montanaandy View Post

Question to anyone out there - I purchased the Costco version of the KDL 32S3000 after returning a 32" Sharp. The picture is great but I have had problems with the set interpreting the HD signal that I receive via my OTA antenna. NBC broadcasts digitally and the set indicates that I am receiving a 1080i 16:9 picture which is clearly HD and is breathtaking. This morning when I turned on the set, although the set indicated that the pictrure was 1080i 16:9, the was letterboxing on the sides. It was not until I went through the menu that the picture "defaulted" back to the HD (don't know what I did). The other thing (and this concerns me) is that I have had the set change from the sidebars to the full screen and then there is a loud "pop" as the picture chanages. Is this anything to be worried about? This is my 1st HDTV (my others are HD ready). Thanks

Montanaandy - not all hd broadcasts are widescreen, some shows are hd but 4:3 (ie simpsons, familyguy) this is not the tv but the source. as for the loud pop - i don't own this tv but i don't believe a loud pop is normal with any tv. you may what to contact sony or exchange the set. In many cases finding the right tv - right for you and without flaws can be a long process. hope this helps.
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