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post #31 of 2687
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I absolutely love my realtor. I sent her a note asking for structural engineer referrals, and within minutes she got me a list. Two calls later and ten minutes later I found someone to do the work. Looks it will run me around $300.
post #32 of 2687
I just have one question. Who's Joice? Apparently she's 7'4"
post #33 of 2687
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Originally Posted by chinaclipper View Post

Hey Craig, what's that in REAL money?????
hehehehe just kidding!

Chinaclipper

Don't look now, but the CAD$ just hit USD$0.92 . It hasn't been that high since disco was cool. Time to start buying some gear!
post #34 of 2687
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I just have one question. Who's Joice? Apparently she's 7'4"

I warned you about that typo. I'm sure there will be a few more.

Can anyone ballpark me how deep of a room I would need to do two rows and a space for a bar/stool thing for overflow?
post #35 of 2687
Jason's (Jikkjack) room will have 2 rows and a bar.....his is 28' long by 12' wide.

Cheers,
Mark
post #36 of 2687
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Thanks Mark. I poked Jason about his room and he's measuring a few things for me.
post #37 of 2687
Yep. Check your PM Cathan. Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy to help.
post #38 of 2687
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Thanks for the info Jason. That will give me some more data points for when the engineer comes.
post #39 of 2687
Good luck on the build. It may not take that long...if you get into it, you may find yourself making time to work on it.
post #40 of 2687
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Good luck on the build. It may not take that long...if you get into it, you may find yourself making time to work on it.

He has a bunch of us watching now, so we'll be pushing him hard
post #41 of 2687
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hehehe. It's not going to be for lack of effort my friends. It's all about the dollar. The only major WFA I've needed to address is to agree that this entire build be done with cash - no credit. So we set a decent budget of money flowing into a special account. What's in the account is what I can spend. When the project is done that flow gets rediverted.

With projects like this, most of the big items seem to be either front or back loaded. Front include (for me) the engineering cost, hiring of an designer, moving poles, having a window well put it, and putting in the rough-in for the bath. All of these will be done by someone other than me (I think). The middle of the project (framing, drywall, electrical, treatments) I can easily DIY. The tailend gets more expensive again with the purchase of carpet, chairs and AV equipment. So right now its going to start slow else I get in trouble and this whole project, or rather I, get deep-sixed.
post #42 of 2687
Maybe if you drain Scotland a little slower, you can build a little faster

I hear you on the cost staging. I did my entire basement at the same time pretty much as you described. The only thing different is I hired out my drywall and electrical. Glad I did or I'd still be working on it. And yes, the tail-end is expensive. Much more than I thought anyway.
post #43 of 2687
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hehehe. It's not going to be for lack of effort my friends. It's all about the dollar. The only major WAF I've needed to address is to agree that this entire build be done with cash - no credit. . With projects like this, most of the big items seem to be either front or back loaded. Front include (for me) the engineering cost, hiring of an designer, moving poles, having a window well put it, and putting in the rough-in for the bath. All of these will be done by someone other than me (I think). The middle of the project (framing, drywall, electrical, treatments) I can easily DIY.

Wow! More and more I think we are alike, you and I. my wife says exactly the same thing-no credit, cash only!

It does slow things down a bit, but at least, ITS PAID FOR!!!

...and ya gotta love that!

Best,
Tom
Chinaclipper
post #44 of 2687
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Maybe if you drain Scotland a little slower, you can build a little faster

I mostly drain Scotland in the fall and winter months. During the summer I'm involved with the knocking down prickly plants down in Mexico. So a bit cheaper, but not by much.
post #45 of 2687
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It does slow things down a bit, but at least, ITS PAID FOR!!!

But the rest of the house it's in probably won't be paid for. Maybe if he moves, he could bring the pole with him?
post #46 of 2687
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Well made the first real purchase for the theater today. I placed an order for 12 linear feet SMX material. That should give me enough to work with for a ten foot wide 2.35 screen. I can't image going bigger in a room 13 foot wide room. My guess is that in the end the screen will actually be smaller than 10', but better safe than sorry.

I may not get to use the stuff for another couple of years, but at least I know I have it.

Many thanks to Rubin for coming through for all the DIYers would got caught off-guard with his business model switch.
post #47 of 2687
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LAYOUT VERSION 2:



Well I updated the room layout based on hopefully being able to move the pole around 6 feet from the end. The diagram also gives a rough layout of what we are going to do with the rest of the basement.

I measure out the space and it looks like I'll have plenty of space under the stairs to build in a nook for a frig and still have a decent size equipment closet. I still need to figure out if I'm going to do a sliding rack, or if I should add a door. Ideally I want my equipment outside of the theater space as I plan on using some pro-amp that I'm sure will give off noise and heat.

Lot's of decision, but still plenty on time.

I should also mention that I've engaged Bryan (bpape) as my official advisor for all things big and small.
post #48 of 2687
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Any know of any good web-based guides for putting in a bath rough-in? Or for that matter could recommend a book?
post #49 of 2687
Michael,

Looking good! I really like the new design. Just out of curiosity, why did you decide to do 3 seats in the front? Looks like you could get 4 in there pretty easily. Are you planning to put your PJ in the back wall? Also, I would think hard about having your equipment in the back wall. Not because you want it in the room necessarily, but because access from the back is very, very nice to have. You could always put in a soundproof door if need be.
post #50 of 2687
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I don't think the Visio chair images are to scale, but honestly we really only need six seats for 95% of the things we would host. During the occasional sporting event (PPV, Superbowl, etc.) we may have up to nine people or so - at least that's what we've been averaging the last few UFC and boxing PPVs. I suspect that number could grow as the theater makes coming over more of a draw.

Once the walls are built, I think the final room width with be close to 12.5'. Based on what I've read that is a bit tight to fit 4 seats. Besides, we can always order another seat if needed.

The equipment closet just seems like the ideal spot if I want to keep the gear out of the theater and still have easy access to it. I'm picturing the rack facing out into the entrance hallway across from the half-bath. I could either put the access door going into the theater and hide it, or just not but a wall between the equipment and the fridge and just slide out the fridge to get to the back of the rack.

What the drawing doesn't show is that the frig and equipment closet makes use of other dead space below the stairs. You can see it in the photos (I think) on the previous page. If not, I'll take a photo and post. Also, the water heater and HVAC aren't to scale, but the bath and hall dimensions maximize space without requiring anything to be moved.

As for projector mount, ideally I would like to have it behind the back wall, but because it may be a couple of years before I actually buy a projector, no final decision has been made. A lot will depend on what projectors are on the market then, throw distance, CIH compatibility, etc. Either way, I plan on allowing for some flexibility.
post #51 of 2687
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So I got to order some new toys this weekend. Our health insurance plan has a "healthy living - preventative care" program where you get points that can be used to buy stuff. So I ordered one of these ...

Bosch Saw
and one of these...


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Now I just need to wait 6-8 weeks for delivery...
post #52 of 2687
Ironic that you're using healthcare points to buy tools to injure yourself with. Hope you have better luck than some of these guys!
post #53 of 2687
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Lindahl - Yeah. I thought so too. Let's hope that the tools don't result in any injuries.
post #54 of 2687
Nice saw. Been trying to justify purchasing that for a while. Wish I had those kind of points.
post #55 of 2687
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Okay. Now I need some help. Bpape and I have been going back and forth about if I can make the third row bar stool thing work in my room given it's length and given the door placement. I need to really settle on what theater chairs I will be using to get the room layout right.

So what do you all think? I can take "She who wants to give input on such things as chairs" to look at chairs this weekend, but what make/models should we definately try to find? Any NoVA stores I should check out that have a wide selection?
post #56 of 2687
Find a Berkline showroom and sit in a couple different chairs of differing widths and back heights - remember that high backs are a no-no for surround. Once you get a feel for how much arm and how much seat width you want, it's easy to pick from their catalog as many are very similar - just different looks.

Bryan
post #57 of 2687
Last time I was at "The Big Screen Store" near the Dulles Town center mall they had two different models of Berklines on the floor along with a couple of other brands.

Two things to keep in mind. When my wife sat in the Berkline 099s with high backs, the game was over. No matter how they would effect my surround sound they were "THE" chair.

Second, Ask them how much a chair with grade 4 leather (soft) and electric recline will cost. Then leave the store laughing and get it for less that 1/2 from a couple of the dealers talked about here. They also have samples of the various leathers and fabrics that Berkline uses.
post #58 of 2687
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Thanks Jeff. I think there is one by the Expo Design Center near Lee Hwy/Rt50.

Happen to know if Myer Emco carries chairs? Also, I seem to recall that Coasters is another brand discussed on the boards. I wonder if I can find some for comparison.
post #59 of 2687
Last time I was there the Myer Emco in Sterling did not carry chairs. Not sure if this is the same in other stores.

The Big Screen Store over by the Dulles Mall had a big range of different brands of HT chairs. Be sure to try out manual vs. power recline.

Cheers,
Mark
post #60 of 2687
We went with the 45004's after a lot of messing around and looking at chairs - in fact, I wasn't even going to go with Berkline originally. But after we sat in a few and looked around we thought the 45004's were the best combination of size, looks, comfort and price. Comfort in particular is outstanding - particularly if you're over 6'0"
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