PS3 firmware 1.8 coming tomorrow. Upscaling!! - Page 17

Do you mean RGB setting? I can`t find a BTB setting.

This issue won't be fixed in that way. I'll explain why.

When you are playing a PS1 or PS2 game or watching a DVD, the PS3 engine is sleeping (mostly). When you are playing a blu-ray or a PS3 game, it's working (more or less hardly) to get the result you see. PS1/2 games are considered "easy" to run today (thus the emulators etc...).

So, to do anything to a PS3 game that was'nt planned for that PS3 game would be bad (like 1080p on xbox360). If the game is designed and tested to run at 720p with 60 players and in the most extreme exterior scene it has thousand of very detailed objects moving fast and shooting everywhere with fog and everything on top of that. The developper did a lot of test to make sure that the game stay above 30fps at all time for example.

What would happen if with a firmware update, you could flip an option and that same game would now play the same BUT the PS3 OS would use a 5% of the PS3 processing to do a little 720p to 1080p conversion and show it on the screen? Well, for one, that big nasty exterior scene would surely get below minimum fps level which could seriously affect the gameplay/network connectivity. The hardware is assured to always run the same.

Now if it has processing power to do that AND the developpers of the PS3 game would'nt have access to this part of the OS at ALL, then Sony could use it for something like that. But if it's usefull, I'm sure the developpers are already using it to push the hardware.

The only way to fix that problem (from my point of view) would be a patch by the game developper themselves for the games to allow it to upconvert if they have some free processing/cycles.

Now for old stuff, this problem does'nt exist as the developper at that time were using the maximum of the old hardware so they are "shielded" from using the new stuff, since it was'nt there!

Forgot something...

Since your PS3 is already very busy doing your PS3 game, why not just buy an Onkyo 875 or 900 model that will convert any resolution outputted from the PS3 to the one you wish to see on your screen?

The receiver could do that processing even if the PS3 is already at 100% and hot.

I named theses 2 models because they are supposed to use the best video conversion chip but there is plenty of other or the same from other receiver brand too.

It may not using the whole image area for graphics. It may be rendering in a lower resolution (for better performance) and filling the rest in with black. I noticed when I had Shadow of the Colossus that the widescreen mode is actually something less wide, like 1.5:1 or 1.6:1 rather than 1.78:1, so bars on the sides (and even on the top and bottom) are normal in that case. There's no way for the PS3 to tell where the edges of the graphics end and the border begins. Maybe they could add a variable zoom feature for PS/PS2 games so they can be adjusted to fit screens without overscan.

These are just more examples of us seeing how these games were programmed when moving to displays without overscan. People didn't complain before because they had CRT displays with lots of overscan that hid the borders. Thankfully, PS3 games are designed to use the entire image area regardless of overscan.

Good call! Thanks, I did not know this!

Just get the ps3 hdmi 1.3 cables. They are only 30.00 bucks

This looks really good. Great job Sony.

The best setting would be 1080i. For one reason or another Sony television sets handle 1080i far better then 720P.

Actually that is your projector doing that. Just set it to match your pixels 1 to 1 and you will have your correct format.

OK. I bought a 360 3 weeks ago when the Elite was launched. The main reasons I chose the Elite was because it upscaled and had good media server abilities.

Now, with this update, the PS3 meets both of those needs. I went out and rented a system to try it out and all the media works great. Just as easy as the 360 (although I do kind of like the 360 dashboard setup). My only complaint now is that you can't multitask while listening to music. What I like to do with my 360 is put on a video or JPG slideshow and then listen to music on top of it. Can this be done with the PS3 and I just can't figure it out? If not, has there been any talk of an update to allow this. Is it possible?

Thanks

Well, I watched "King of Scottland" on DVD last night using my PS3. It now looks almost as good as my Oppo and Denon 3910 players. What ever they did, worked on the upscaling end of things. My questions is what are some good settings for DVD and Blu-Ray to get the optimal quality viewing experience? I am using a Sony Pearl along with a 92" DALITE HP screen... Thanks....

Absolutely. Just start your music in the XMB, hit the PS button, and it will allow you to peruse the XMB freely with your music still playing. Then you are free to view pictures, start a slideshow, chat with friends, etc. I don't know if you can use the browser while listening to music, I haven't tried that...but I doubt it.

Within the next update or two, I'm betting we'll gain the ability to access XMB seamlessly from within a game or application, allowing us to listen to our own tracks.

The internet browser works with music playing in the background. PSN Store does not.

Awesome. Thanks for the reply. I think I'm sold. Best Buy will be getting an exchange over the weekend.

I'm not much of a gamer. Basically I wanted a system for media sharing and HD movies. The Blu Ray sounds much better than the 360 w/ HD DVD add on.

Aha, thanks

I know this is kinda off topic, but does anyone know how to create a playlist? I'm using Nero MediaHome to stream music/video but when I play music, it will only play the song I select, not the whole folder.

I was playing Dragon Quest VIII last night after installing the update. It looks very nice. I'm much more impressed with actually playing a game than I was comparing those GOWII screenshots.

The way this is upscaling regular movies is more impressive than I thought it would be. I almost bought an upscaling DVD player last week, glad I waited.

Just to be completely clear, with the PS3 music over slideshows is possible but not music while playing a video.

You can now do it from outside your home too ! as long as you own a PSP.

Bump because I'd like to know. No DivX right? What about XviD?

Xvid and Divx are implementations of the same MPEG4 ASP standard. So right now neither one works.

That's from Kingdom Hearts II










Now that I got your attention. Those pictures are NOT on the PS3, but in fact from an actual working PS2 emulator.

http://www.pcsx2.net

Anotherwords, this is what our PS3 "should" be doing, but isnt. All we're getting really is a blurring filter effect applied and standard upscaling that most tv's can do already.

We're not getting an actual resolution increase, or proper AA, or anything else that proper emulation can offer. Just take all this how you will.

I just want people to be aware of what proper software emulation on a ps3 can do if it were properly implemented in a future firmware update.

Lovely pictures but it's simply not possible to make all PS2 games do that automatically. If you'll notice on that website KH2 isn't even completely playable yet:

Maybe one day Sony will start releasing patches for some of the more popular games to allow this kind of thing, but don't hold your breath.

Can someone verify,
If I set God of War II (or any progressive game) to the progressive setting, it defeats the PS3 upscaling?
As soon as I turn on progressive, the resolution changes back to 480p (which makes sense).
But, I could have sworn I saw a screen shot that showed a comparison shot of a 1080i/p GOW2 screen that looked awesome.
My 1080i non progressive setting, looks awful.

Those $40 DVD players pay a licensing fee.

Just curious, they have this for Linux, would it be possible to install YellowDog Linux or whatever its called then install this load the PS2 games and play through the emulator that way? Or is sony still blocking certain access to the RSX or any other certain things that would not allow this to work. I'd be happy to install that YellowDog to use this emulator.

After I installed 1.8 I was playing MLB 2K7 and notice that my reciever was displaying DTS instead of Dolby D. I put on Resistance and it display Dolby D. Wondering if any of yall had the same thing happen.

When I loaded up College Hoops 2k7 I noticed it said DTS also. On the back of the case, it says nothing about DTS being included.

This is what the xbox 360 does. And this is also why the xbox 360 only supports a handful of titles. Personally, I would rather have MANY MANY more titles with the current system than only a few titles through emulation. Obviously you like the xbox style emulation better. To each his own.