NOTE: We are currently compiling a list of known bugs/problems with the TX line to send off to Westinghouse. Below you will find what we have so far. Please feel free to provide your feedback by posting to the thread.
CONFIRMED ISSUES WITH THE TX SERIES
1) 5.1 DD Via Internal Tuner (Both QAM and OTA)
This must be fixed!! The hardware is clearly capable of passing through 5.1 via the SPDIF out. As I posted earlier, Westinghouse told me to try cycling through the digital audio options (English, Spanish, French) to see if any of those would bring up the 5.1 audio stream. They simply need to add something to the firmware to allow 5.1 to be selected from the digital audio menu if it is present in the broadcast.
2) Lockup Problems
The problem occurs after a boot sequence (such as after a power outage or if you are using energy saver mode). The set simply won't come out of standby (amber light does not go blue). Some have been able to recover by doing the 10 second reboot and ensuring that the input which was last used has a source signal. This happened to my first set and I was not able to recover from it - I had to get a replacement.
3) Frame/Scrawl Judder
From xnappo:
From bhazard:
4) HDMI Flickering/Dropouts
There are numerous reports of flickering and dropouts when using an HDMI source, particularly the PS3 but problems with the SA 8300 HD cable box and Sony upscaling DVD player have also been reported. The assumption is that there is a problem with the HDCP authentication.
5) HDMI Hub (all HDMI inputs sharing the same setting)
All 4 HDMI inputs share the same user settings. Westinghouse has indicated that this is due to the 4 HDMI inputs being on a hub, hence it is really only 1 input. There is a possibility that each HDMI input can still have its own settings if the firmware is updated.
6) EPG
The EPG could use some work. First, it doesn't appear to have a cache so it does not hold very much data. I personally don't receive any data except from NBC while using QAM - not sure if this is an issue with the set or if all the other stations simply aren't transmitting guide data. Here are some more problems as reported by meltdown100:
7) Dynamic Contrast Cannot Be Disabled
Even though you can turn off the Dynamic Contrast Feature via the menu, it appears that it is never truly disabled. I have the setting off myself and I do still notice automatic contrast shifts when going from bright to dark scenes.
8) Audio Dynamic Range Compression Cannot Be Disabled
From superh:
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This thread is for discussion directly related to the new Westinghouse TX Series, specifically the TX-42F430S and TX-47F430S. I did not include the TX-52F480S as it is not due out until the fall, and it differs from its smaller cousins in more than just panel size. For discussion not directly related to the TX-42 and TX-47, such as anticipation of the TX-52, please see the original Westinghouse TX Series (TX-42F430s, TX-47F430s, TX-52F480s) Anticipation Thread. This thread contains a wealth of information about Westinghouse, the upcoming TX-52, and LCD displays in general.
Please - no price talk as it is against forum rules. Also, be aware that not everyone who comes to this forum wears a propellerhead cap. All Westinghouse owners are encouraged to post their opinions and there are no stupid questions. Of course, it is always a good idea to use search to see if your particular question has already been addressed elsewhere.
Enjoy the thread !!
Important Links
Westinghouse TX-42F430S Product Page
Westinghouse TX-42F430S Manual
Westinghouse TX-47F430S Product Page
Westinghouse TX-47F430S Manual
Useful Warranty Information from sharkcohen
Review from Cnet:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32429415.html
Specifications (copied from the Westinghouse site):
TX-42F430S Specifications
Display Specifications
Viewable Screen Size 42" Diagonal
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Native/Optimum Resolution 1920 x 1080
Color Capability 16.7 Million colors
Connectors
QTY TYPE
1 Antenna In (RF)
1 Video/S-Video In
2 YPbPr In
4 HDMI + 1 L/R
1 D-Sub (VGA) In
1 PC Audio In (mini)
4 Audio In (dual RCA)
1 Audio Out (dual RCA)
1 SPDIF Optical Out
1 AC Power In
EDIT: They forgot to mention a very important input - there is a USB port for firmware updates !!
Compatible Modes
NTSC 480i
HDTV 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
PC SVGA, XGA, SXGA, HD 720, HD 1080
Clear QAM
Picture
Contrast Ratio 1000:1
Color Gamut 75% NTSC
Lamp Life 50,000 Hrs
Viewing Angle 176° Horizontal 176° Vertical
Response Time 8 ms
Video Features
Preset Video Modes - Enhanced/Movie/Game/Sports
Screen Fit Modes - Standard/Fill/Overscan
Progressive Scan
3D Noise Reduction
Inverse 3:2 Pulldown
De-Interlacing
3D Adaptive Comb Filter
2D OSD Graphics Engine
Selectable Color Temperature - 3 User Adjustable
Advanced Calibration Menu
Dynamic Contrast
Convenience Features
Autosource
SpineDesign
DayBright - High contrast LCD for both day and night
Parental Control
Sleep Timer
Dimensions and Weight
42.2" x 29.0 " x 10.5 " (with Base)
68.1 lbs (with Base)
42.2" x 27.0 " x 5.5 " (w/o Base)
61.1 lbs (w/o Base)
46.1" x 33.3 " x 11.5 " (carton dimensions)
79.1 lbs (carton weight)
Audio
2-10 watt speakers
10 watt Subwoofer
Down Firing
User Adjustable 5 Band Equalizer
Cabinet Color
Black/Dark Silver
Installation Options
8 Hole Pattern
75mm x 75mm VESA® Pattern
100mm x 100mm VESA® Pattern wall mounts
Warranty
Westinghouse Digital Electronics warrants their LCD TVs against defects in materials or workmanship for a period of one (1) year from the original date of purchase.
TX-47F430S Specifications:
Same as above, except for:
Display Specifications
Viewable Screen Size 47" Diagonal
Dimensions and Weight
48.2" x 31.5" x 10.5" (with Base)
71.6 lbs (with Base)
48.2" x 29.5" x 5.5" (w/o Base)
64.6 lbs (w/o Base)
50.5" x 36.1" x 11.5" (carton dimensions)
83.6 lbs (carton weight)
CONFIRMED ISSUES WITH THE TX SERIES
1) 5.1 DD Via Internal Tuner (Both QAM and OTA)
This must be fixed!! The hardware is clearly capable of passing through 5.1 via the SPDIF out. As I posted earlier, Westinghouse told me to try cycling through the digital audio options (English, Spanish, French) to see if any of those would bring up the 5.1 audio stream. They simply need to add something to the firmware to allow 5.1 to be selected from the digital audio menu if it is present in the broadcast.
2) Lockup Problems
The problem occurs after a boot sequence (such as after a power outage or if you are using energy saver mode). The set simply won't come out of standby (amber light does not go blue). Some have been able to recover by doing the 10 second reboot and ensuring that the input which was last used has a source signal. This happened to my first set and I was not able to recover from it - I had to get a replacement.
3) Frame/Scrawl Judder
From xnappo:
Quote:
if you tune to a channel with a scrawl running you will see that once every two seconds it appears to drop a frame. Once you see it on the scrawl, you will probably notice the missing frame watching normal TV - especially when the camera pans across the screen... For me, my set always did this with component hooked up from my SA8300HD. With HDMI, it would be fine for a while and then start to drop frames. When I would power off/on the set, it would go away for a while.
if you tune to a channel with a scrawl running you will see that once every two seconds it appears to drop a frame. Once you see it on the scrawl, you will probably notice the missing frame watching normal TV - especially when the camera pans across the screen... For me, my set always did this with component hooked up from my SA8300HD. With HDMI, it would be fine for a while and then start to drop frames. When I would power off/on the set, it would go away for a while.
From bhazard:
Quote:
I have seen this through VGA and HDMI. It is easily noticeable in Guitar Hero with the scrolling bar. The bar would skip frames every 2 seconds....It is fixable with the 10 sec power reboot. I have no idea how to re-create it, but when it does happen I just do the reboot and it goes away. It is not very often though.
I have seen this through VGA and HDMI. It is easily noticeable in Guitar Hero with the scrolling bar. The bar would skip frames every 2 seconds....It is fixable with the 10 sec power reboot. I have no idea how to re-create it, but when it does happen I just do the reboot and it goes away. It is not very often though.
4) HDMI Flickering/Dropouts
There are numerous reports of flickering and dropouts when using an HDMI source, particularly the PS3 but problems with the SA 8300 HD cable box and Sony upscaling DVD player have also been reported. The assumption is that there is a problem with the HDCP authentication.
5) HDMI Hub (all HDMI inputs sharing the same setting)
All 4 HDMI inputs share the same user settings. Westinghouse has indicated that this is due to the 4 HDMI inputs being on a hub, hence it is really only 1 input. There is a possibility that each HDMI input can still have its own settings if the firmware is updated.
6) EPG
The EPG could use some work. First, it doesn't appear to have a cache so it does not hold very much data. I personally don't receive any data except from NBC while using QAM - not sure if this is an issue with the set or if all the other stations simply aren't transmitting guide data. Here are some more problems as reported by meltdown100:
Quote:
To add what I have seen with the EPG issue, for me it is working for all of my OTA channels, but in a somewhat crippled fashion. I can only see the program schedule for any given channel when I am tuned in to that particular channel, everything else comes up blank. Another minor annoyance with this is that the EPG does not come up for the channel you are currently viewing, which would make sense, rather it comes up for whatever the last channel was that you looked up on the EPG.
To add what I have seen with the EPG issue, for me it is working for all of my OTA channels, but in a somewhat crippled fashion. I can only see the program schedule for any given channel when I am tuned in to that particular channel, everything else comes up blank. Another minor annoyance with this is that the EPG does not come up for the channel you are currently viewing, which would make sense, rather it comes up for whatever the last channel was that you looked up on the EPG.
7) Dynamic Contrast Cannot Be Disabled
Even though you can turn off the Dynamic Contrast Feature via the menu, it appears that it is never truly disabled. I have the setting off myself and I do still notice automatic contrast shifts when going from bright to dark scenes.
8) Audio Dynamic Range Compression Cannot Be Disabled
From superh:
Quote:
The audio dynamic range compression feature cannot be disabled. It is always on. What it does essentially is normalize audio so that there aren't large volume differences between commercials/programs and channels. I would like to be able to disable that sometimes. It would be nice for those times where the TV content is musical.
You'll hear it sometimes when a station starts off really quiet and gets louder in volume (or vice versa - when you tune to a "loud" station and the TV drops in volume). It's within the television for sure, since I've ran PC audio through it while playing a game and can confirm that when the audio plays, the sound effects in the game disappear. When the audio goes silent between songs, the game audio gets louder.
The audio dynamic range compression feature cannot be disabled. It is always on. What it does essentially is normalize audio so that there aren't large volume differences between commercials/programs and channels. I would like to be able to disable that sometimes. It would be nice for those times where the TV content is musical.
You'll hear it sometimes when a station starts off really quiet and gets louder in volume (or vice versa - when you tune to a "loud" station and the TV drops in volume). It's within the television for sure, since I've ran PC audio through it while playing a game and can confirm that when the audio plays, the sound effects in the game disappear. When the audio goes silent between songs, the game audio gets louder.
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This thread is for discussion directly related to the new Westinghouse TX Series, specifically the TX-42F430S and TX-47F430S. I did not include the TX-52F480S as it is not due out until the fall, and it differs from its smaller cousins in more than just panel size. For discussion not directly related to the TX-42 and TX-47, such as anticipation of the TX-52, please see the original Westinghouse TX Series (TX-42F430s, TX-47F430s, TX-52F480s) Anticipation Thread. This thread contains a wealth of information about Westinghouse, the upcoming TX-52, and LCD displays in general.
Please - no price talk as it is against forum rules. Also, be aware that not everyone who comes to this forum wears a propellerhead cap. All Westinghouse owners are encouraged to post their opinions and there are no stupid questions. Of course, it is always a good idea to use search to see if your particular question has already been addressed elsewhere.
Enjoy the thread !!
Important Links
Westinghouse TX-42F430S Product Page
Westinghouse TX-42F430S Manual
Westinghouse TX-47F430S Product Page
Westinghouse TX-47F430S Manual
Useful Warranty Information from sharkcohen
Quote:
For those sending in their set for warranty service/replacement: do not bother with tech support after you have sent in your set. Tech support cannot directly answer questions regarding status updates on RMAs, and they have to put in a status request to 'corporate', and then call you back in 3-5 days with an answer. Good luck with that, they usually never call back. Instead, directly call the center you sent your set to. If you send to Santa Fe Springs, CA, the number for their facility is 562-236-9800. Just tell the operator that you want to get a status on your RMA, the person will direct you to their RMA department, who I have found to be VERY friendly and helpful.
ALSO OF NOTE: Westinghouse tech support/customer service is NOT Westinghouse, it is a large outsource company called microdyne, www.microdyne.com Considering they are just a call center, I would NOT bother trying to get them to answer questions regarding firmware updates or known issues. These people know nothing more than what Westinghouse tells them.
For those sending in their set for warranty service/replacement: do not bother with tech support after you have sent in your set. Tech support cannot directly answer questions regarding status updates on RMAs, and they have to put in a status request to 'corporate', and then call you back in 3-5 days with an answer. Good luck with that, they usually never call back. Instead, directly call the center you sent your set to. If you send to Santa Fe Springs, CA, the number for their facility is 562-236-9800. Just tell the operator that you want to get a status on your RMA, the person will direct you to their RMA department, who I have found to be VERY friendly and helpful.
ALSO OF NOTE: Westinghouse tech support/customer service is NOT Westinghouse, it is a large outsource company called microdyne, www.microdyne.com Considering they are just a call center, I would NOT bother trying to get them to answer questions regarding firmware updates or known issues. These people know nothing more than what Westinghouse tells them.
Review from Cnet:
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-a...-32429415.html
Specifications (copied from the Westinghouse site):
TX-42F430S Specifications
Display Specifications
Viewable Screen Size 42" Diagonal
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Native/Optimum Resolution 1920 x 1080
Color Capability 16.7 Million colors
Connectors
QTY TYPE
1 Antenna In (RF)
1 Video/S-Video In
2 YPbPr In
4 HDMI + 1 L/R
1 D-Sub (VGA) In
1 PC Audio In (mini)
4 Audio In (dual RCA)
1 Audio Out (dual RCA)
1 SPDIF Optical Out
1 AC Power In
EDIT: They forgot to mention a very important input - there is a USB port for firmware updates !!
Compatible Modes
NTSC 480i
HDTV 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
PC SVGA, XGA, SXGA, HD 720, HD 1080
Clear QAM
Picture
Contrast Ratio 1000:1
Color Gamut 75% NTSC
Lamp Life 50,000 Hrs
Viewing Angle 176° Horizontal 176° Vertical
Response Time 8 ms
Video Features
Preset Video Modes - Enhanced/Movie/Game/Sports
Screen Fit Modes - Standard/Fill/Overscan
Progressive Scan
3D Noise Reduction
Inverse 3:2 Pulldown
De-Interlacing
3D Adaptive Comb Filter
2D OSD Graphics Engine
Selectable Color Temperature - 3 User Adjustable
Advanced Calibration Menu
Dynamic Contrast
Convenience Features
Autosource
SpineDesign
DayBright - High contrast LCD for both day and night
Parental Control
Sleep Timer
Dimensions and Weight
42.2" x 29.0 " x 10.5 " (with Base)
68.1 lbs (with Base)
42.2" x 27.0 " x 5.5 " (w/o Base)
61.1 lbs (w/o Base)
46.1" x 33.3 " x 11.5 " (carton dimensions)
79.1 lbs (carton weight)
Audio
2-10 watt speakers
10 watt Subwoofer
Down Firing
User Adjustable 5 Band Equalizer
Cabinet Color
Black/Dark Silver
Installation Options
8 Hole Pattern
75mm x 75mm VESA® Pattern
100mm x 100mm VESA® Pattern wall mounts
Warranty
Westinghouse Digital Electronics warrants their LCD TVs against defects in materials or workmanship for a period of one (1) year from the original date of purchase.
TX-47F430S Specifications:
Same as above, except for:
Display Specifications
Viewable Screen Size 47" Diagonal
Dimensions and Weight
48.2" x 31.5" x 10.5" (with Base)
71.6 lbs (with Base)
48.2" x 29.5" x 5.5" (w/o Base)
64.6 lbs (w/o Base)
50.5" x 36.1" x 11.5" (carton dimensions)
83.6 lbs (carton weight)
