Originally Posted by Mikeoz
Well I ordered a tx47 today, and it should be in the store on Thurs. Apparently they have like 40+ sitting in their warehouse (why I have no damn clue). So we'll see how it looks when it gets here.
Benzonate.. how are the colors on the tx47? You're getting me a little worried that perhaps the red/blues are a little washed out looking, is that the case? You say the blacks are better than the lvm but are the blues/reds bad? Thanks.
KEEP IN MIND:
I HAVE NOT CALIBRATED EITHER PANEL(EXCEPT FOR A SMALL USER SETTING VIA THE USER MENU ON BOTH PANELS...BRIGHTNESS, SATURATION, HUE, CONTRAST, ETC TO MATCH THE TO PANELS AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE).
YOU MAY HAVE A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE VIA PERSONAL CALIBRATION.
The LVM47 reds/blues are deeper. Xcalibur_255 mentioned this earlier and he was exactly right. The TX47 reds are more MAGENTA(they cannot reach the depth of the LVM47 CRIMSON through any basic user menu settings). You may be able to find comfortable reds with the user defined (R.G.B.) settings, but I highly doubt you will find the depth of the LVM47.**NOTE**
WHILE USING A BLACK SCREEN with the Backlight @ 95(TX)/90(LVM): The LVM47 has a pinkish tint to the LCD, where the TX47 carries a better, deeper black(that seem to crush a bit, lose detail, via some HD content(direct comparison to the LVM47).
This results in the LVM47 with better reds/blues....I have also notices that the Whites on the LVM seem to be a bit more brilliant(they "pop" as with the depth and detail in comparison to the yellowish/every so slightly smudge of the TX47(calibration?).
All of this in mind, I believe that you can achieve nearly the same image via the TX47(minus the red/blue color depth). Expert calibrators(Xcalibur_255) will turn this inside out when they have theirs.One other thing I have noticed, the detail on the LVM47 seems to be a bit deeper as well on HD content. Possibly less black crush than the TX47, as you can see the creases in black suit pants in shadows.The TX47 has a YELLOW
tint to it, giving reds a bit more orange look. The yellow is very noticable in the WARM setting. I could not escape this yellow hue/tint in any setting I tried to tweak. I am not experienced with calibration...so don't take my experience too seriously. I do like the red/blue/black/brilliant whites of the LVM47...they are deep and detailed and brilliant.
I have connected the exact same Explorer 3250HD boxes to each set via the component input.
Althought the viewing angle of the LVM47 is not as good and cannot retain the colors/contrast like TX47....
....The LVM47 seems to have a better depth via HD content. By better depth, I mean, clarity(the detail in skin/hair, the whiteness(or lack of) teeth, the brilliance of the sun and shadows of trees on grass(the greens look better/deeper and more detailed).
I say this with each one side by side(TX47/LVM47) without much calibration.
The TX47 seems to be a bit more...smudged in details like the pores in skin and the brilliance of the whites...the whites seem to be a bit more yellow(dirty) than the LVM47....even after I perform many many different calibrations via contrast/brightnes/backlight/etc...
So, when my fiance gets home... it's off to BB to return the TX47
(I'm going to miss it) and have one shipped in(they sold the Floor model LVM47 and they are disappearing fast from BB inventory)
Once again, I do not want to sway anyone from the TX47 or give you a feeling it is not a good panel. The TX47 is a superb panel with a great picture, but to fit my needs(PC use) I need something that will communicate well with the other investment I have (many, many PC's and laptops). I will also save a few hundred dollars which will help me build a HTPC with a dual format HD/BLU-RAY DVD player.
The LVM47 suits my needs for now & the future.The reason that jumps out at me with the LVM47:
~The detail, shadows, color depth seem to jump out(image depth, water, grass, clouds, etc) that the TX47 can reproduce with slightly less detail. Your experience may be different.
I will miss the SD "OVERSCAN" scaling (which, by the way, can be attained via the HD cable box feature "ZOOM")
~The extensive user calibration
~All the extra inputs/connections
~Internal/External sound system
I am having a very difficult time getting any DVI-HDMI via laptop video cards to connect to the TX47.
So, with all of this in mind. The LVM47 is my personal preference.
The Westinghouse website states and "improvement" in technology and "better". The 8ms (TX47) to the 6.5ms response time is academic, but the whites/blacks/reds/blues(and some greens) look amazing. I think they have(soone to be had) something with the LVM47 panel. It has its faults(red washout/decreased viewing angle), but the sheer depth & detail does rival that of the TX47, if not bests it by just a bit.
My opinion and I hope the feedback up to now is helpful. I am interested in hearing the experiences of those with a bit more knowledge and extensive calibration backgrounds.
The TX47 is an excellent TV with excellent "Monitor" capabilities....it may shine in the arena of "ALL THAT IS HD"...and many different platforms(XBOX 360, PS3, Blu-Ray, HD DVD...etc)..
I do not have those platforms, so I am unable to provide feedback, other than PC and HD Cable via component input.Thats it for now....off to BB to start the process.