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post #2851 of 6156
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Originally Posted by simo77 View Post

I hate to quote myself but I haven't seen a single reply in 2 pages. Anyone care to help me with any of these questions.

Many of these questions have already been answered in this thread already which is probably why no one has responded. The "Search This Thread" feature of the site is your friend... but I'll be your friend too and answer your questions.

Yes, you can pick up HD channels over the air using this TV but you have to use an antenna to pick them up and your antenna has to be in the range of the broadcasting area of an HD broadcaster. There are plenty of sites out there that you can find more info about this but I'll start you here: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

The other HD option is to utilize the QAM tuner on your TV and pick up unencrypted HD channels from your cable provider. I am paying 13 bucks a month for "basic" channels from my cable provider and still pick up around 8-10 HD channels (and about 200 digital music channels). All this requires is that you plug your cable directly into your TV and perform an auto scan on the TV to pick up the digital channels.

I personally have not used the calibration settings from CNET.com so I can't comment.

SD is underwhelming on any HD set, pure and simple. If you're expecting a pile of crap to somehow look like a work of art then you are expecting just a little too much. There are ways to diminish the crappiness of crappy SD tv on this TV but you can't expect miracles. You can search earlier in the thread for my personal settings on how I've reduced the artifacts of SD content on the internal tuner. My wife used to complain about the appearance but now she can't really even tell that it is bad anymore. I simply don't watch SD on my TV anymore. I either watch HD channels or watch movies over the HTPC... I use it for nothing else.

Hope that helps you out. But don't be afraid to actually search this thread for more detailed information.
post #2852 of 6156
For those interested in this TV, while I'm unimpressed that Westinghouse has not released a firmware update for it yet (and definitely should) I still absolutely love my TV and would recommend it to anyone looking for a TV in this price range.

I watched 300 in HD on this TV a couple days ago and the easiest way to explain my love affair with the TV is that I have no desire to watch a movie in the theater again.

Depending on your threshold for technical deficiencies for the price you simply cannot go wrong getting this TV. If you don't read any of the 96 pages of this thread and actually realize what "black crush" is and "gamma correction" and a slew of the other technical issues that the TV has and just turn the TV on and use it instead of focusing on what is wrong with it... you'll notice that it has actually done quite a bit right and is a fantastic deal. If you absolutely hate it there are a bunch of other TVs out there... but if you are super picky you're going to find something wrong with every TV out there.
post #2853 of 6156
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Originally Posted by JimOfoakCreek View Post

My TX-42F430S arrived today (relacing my 42w2 under warranty). My software: Build-on: 2007 June 26 5113_1.30. Great picture, great menu and no real complaints thus far.

One issue I solved, was a violet line at the bottom of the screen when viewing HD TV cable. I solved the problem by turning off the "Deinterlace" under Calibration Mode.

Anyone else notice this?...thanks...Jim

This seems to be a problem with all of the sets, but when I talked to Westinghouse support they claimed they've never heard of it.

I also get a vertical green or purple line on the right side of the screen while viewing dvds in 1080i on my 360, and disabling deinterlacing doesn't remove it.

Ended up sending my set back to Westinghouse because of this and severe mura/banding.
post #2854 of 6156
There is no better value in an overall HDTV right now. This TV can fit everyone's needs, offering 1080P over every connection (a big reason I went with it), and a good quality picture.

In 1-2 years, I bet there will be a LED backlit Westinghouse that looks 90% like the new Samsung 81 series (which looks unreal, but really expensive). Im glad these budget brands came along, it'll be very nice to be an HDTV owner in these next few years.

I absolutely love this set, but I do wish that a firmware upgrade comes in the near future..... shows that the company cares about the product.
post #2855 of 6156
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severe mura/banding

Can you describe what severe mura/banding looks like?...thanks..Jim
post #2856 of 6156
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Originally Posted by JimOfoakCreek View Post

Can you describe what severe mura/banding looks like?...thanks..Jim

Check post 643 on page 22 of this thread.

My screen looks like that but with dark grey bands running horizontally across the top and bottom.

You only really notice it during dark scenes or movies with borders, but I bought this tv primarily for gaming and it's really bad when you're looking around in a FPS like bioshock or condemned.
post #2857 of 6156
I know it will vary be set, but I was thinking a calibration suggestion should be included in the first post, for new owners to more quickly get the most from their box.
post #2858 of 6156
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Originally Posted by kenpachi View Post

The reason your having underscan is because of the drivers i went back to 158.24 with no underscan.Thats the only way around to it that i found out.

That is so annoying! I installed 158.24 and bam, it fills the entire screen! How the heck did NVIDIA break 1080p for all the driver releases after that?

There's got to be a way to fix it, and still use the new driver.

I also used Powerstrip with the new drivers without any luck at all.

Someone else with Vista 64Bit + a 8800GTS on the TX42 using HDMI-DVI, please give us a solution!
post #2859 of 6156
The TX 47 is on sale at Best Buy now and I'm trying to find a 12% off coupon if I decide to get it. I'm still undecided between this one and the LVM-47w1. They're about the same price so I just want to know one thing.

How is the ghosting on the TX? Why would Westinghouse make it 8ms after the older model was 6.5ms? Do you guys notice motion blur when playing games like Bioshock?

Thanks.
post #2860 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Epik View Post

The TX 47 is on sale at Best Buy now and I'm trying to find a 12% off coupon if I decide to get it. I'm still undecided between this one and the LVM-47w1. They're about the same price so I just want to know one thing.

How is the ghosting on the TX? Why would Westinghouse make it 8ms after the older model was 6.5ms? Do you guys notice motion blur when playing games like Bioshock?

Thanks.

i havent noticed any.

i was torn between the LVM also, but the tuner and the user color adjustment
did it for me..

not to mention the TX was local, so if i had any issues i could take it back to bb.
post #2861 of 6156
for those using the SA 8300 HD box from TWC
(connected via HDMI)

i see the best result after doing an advanced setup on the STB

while tv on, box is off:
press info and guide button at the same time (on the 8300HD)

follow instructions on screen go advanced route by pressing the B button, select the supported formats. 480i 480p 720i 720p 1080i 1080p etc... (i chose all of them)

then follow this.





after that turn the TV and on the STB remote press teh setting button twice
scroll to : picture format and select AUTO HDMI/DVI
seen here.





doing this allows the box to display the content at its native res. and the tv scales it up. meaning NO more white pixels at the top.
(where as before on the fixed 1080i setting the lines where a nasty distraction )
now on the westy remote : standard, fill, and overscan options are much more effective.


thumbs up.




8300 HD info
http://www.sciatl.com/products/consu...orer8300HD.htm
post #2862 of 6156
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Originally Posted by flabioh View Post

For those interested in this TV, while I'm unimpressed that Westinghouse has not released a firmware update for it yet (and definitely should) I still absolutely love my TV and would recommend it to anyone looking for a TV in this price range.

I watched 300 in HD on this TV a couple days ago and the easiest way to explain my love affair with the TV is that I have no desire to watch a movie in the theater again.

Depending on your threshold for technical deficiencies for the price you simply cannot go wrong getting this TV. If you don't read any of the 96 pages of this thread and actually realize what "black crush" is and "gamma correction" and a slew of the other technical issues that the TV has and just turn the TV on and use it instead of focusing on what is wrong with it... you'll notice that it has actually done quite a bit right and is a fantastic deal. If you absolutely hate it there are a bunch of other TVs out there... but if you are super picky you're going to find something wrong with every TV out there.

Thanks very much for your thoughts. To you, or anyone else familiar with this TV and others in the market right now. I do have a little more money in my budget. If you had an additional few hundred dollars, is there another 46/47" LCD TV that you'd recommend? Perhaps the Samsung LN-T46XX series? I have seen that in a similar (albeit a little bit more expensive) price range.
post #2863 of 6156
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Originally Posted by TheJBB View Post

Thanks very much for your thoughts. To you, or anyone else familiar with this TV and others in the market right now. I do have a little more money in my budget. If you had an additional few hundred dollars, is there another 46/47" LCD TV that you'd recommend? Perhaps the Samsung LN-T46XX series? I have seen that in a similar (albeit a little bit more expensive) price range.

hoenstly i looked at teh 47" regza but hte thinkness was a turn off.
if i had the extra money i wouldve gotten the 47" 747i olevia. until next time
post #2864 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by flabioh View Post

Many of these questions have already been answered in this thread already which is probably why no one has responded. The "Search This Thread" feature of the site is your friend... but I'll be your friend too and answer your questions.

Yes, you can pick up HD channels over the air using this TV but you have to use an antenna to pick them up and your antenna has to be in the range of the broadcasting area of an HD broadcaster. There are plenty of sites out there that you can find more info about this but I'll start you here: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

The other HD option is to utilize the QAM tuner on your TV and pick up unencrypted HD channels from your cable provider. I am paying 13 bucks a month for "basic" channels from my cable provider and still pick up around 8-10 HD channels (and about 200 digital music channels). All this requires is that you plug your cable directly into your TV and perform an auto scan on the TV to pick up the digital channels.

I personally have not used the calibration settings from CNET.com so I can't comment.

SD is underwhelming on any HD set, pure and simple. If you're expecting a pile of crap to somehow look like a work of art then you are expecting just a little too much. There are ways to diminish the crappiness of crappy SD tv on this TV but you can't expect miracles. You can search earlier in the thread for my personal settings on how I've reduced the artifacts of SD content on the internal tuner. My wife used to complain about the appearance but now she can't really even tell that it is bad anymore. I simply don't watch SD on my TV anymore. I either watch HD channels or watch movies over the HTPC... I use it for nothing else.

Hope that helps you out. But don't be afraid to actually search this thread for more detailed information.

Thanks! I did a search and found your settings as well as others. I'll try them tonight. Thanks for taking the time to help a noobie. My HD box hasn't come in yet so I'm just working with SD in the meantime.
post #2865 of 6156
I've seen various reports on the TX-47F430S's contrast ratio. Some say (Westinghouse included) it's 5000:1, while others I've seen say 1000:1. Am I confusing the 42" with the 47"? Is the 42" 1000:1, and the 47" 5000:1?
post #2866 of 6156
Hey flabioh, I just noticed you are in Lafayette. Are you going to school there?

edit: Just checked your profile out: "Radiology Information Systems Administrator" I'm guessing not.

I'm a boilermaker myself, cheers.
post #2867 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimOfoakCreek View Post

My TX-42F430S arrived today (relacing my 42w2 under warranty). My software: Build-on: 2007 June 26 5113_1.30. Great picture, great menu and no real complaints thus far.

One issue I solved, was a violet line at the bottom of the screen when viewing HD TV cable. I solved the problem by turning off the "Deinterlace" under Calibration Mode.

Anyone else notice this?...thanks...Jim

I'm going to say this exactly one more time before I leave this thread in frustration: Turning off the Deinterlace option is NOT a solution to the purple line problem! This is a very poor choice. The purple line is broadcasting flotsam and it is no fault of the tv that it is there.
post #2868 of 6156
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The purple line is broadcasting flotsam and it is no fault of the tv that it is there.

Thnaks for the info. In my defence all I can say I am new to this TV and new to this thread. Also, my former Westy 42w2 did NOT display that purple line. Go figure!

Thanks again for the information.
post #2869 of 6156
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Originally Posted by JimOfoakCreek View Post

Thnaks for the info. In my defence all I can say I am new to this TV and new to this thread. Also, my former Westy 42w2 did NOT display that purple line. Go figure!

Thanks again for the information.

i can confirm the previous statement its def the content that creates it. and not always there either.
post #2870 of 6156
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Originally Posted by TheJBB View Post

Thanks very much for your thoughts. To you, or anyone else familiar with this TV and others in the market right now. I do have a little more money in my budget. If you had an additional few hundred dollars, is there another 46/47" LCD TV that you'd recommend? Perhaps the Samsung LN-T46XX series? I have seen that in a similar (albeit a little bit more expensive) price range.

If I had a larger budget I'd have picked the LN-TXX65f series, moreso because I've seen them in the store and I do prefer glossy, the better CR, and better features, the 4661f and 4061f are several benjamins within reach of the westinghouse's as it stands with the sales going on...though with the heavy discounts on the TX westinghouse series you can nearly pick up a TX47 for the MSRP of a TX42, thats how cheap it is now
post #2871 of 6156
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its def the content that creates it. and not always there either.

My observations: I have a new cable box, the SA 8300HD. Knowing what I know now, I attribute the violet line at the bottom of the screen as an artifact of that particular cable box. My previous cb did not display that violet line.

Also, I noticed that you can remove it by turning off the "Deinterlace" under Calibration Mode. However, when you return to a non-hidef channel then click to a hidef channel again the violet line reappears. You can remove it again by the above proceedure but it will return when you move to a non-hidef channel and return etc etc etc.
post #2872 of 6156
I'm looking to get this set in a few months, primarily for Xbox 360 gaming. Anyone have issues with it for gaming, and/or how does it perform for gaming?
post #2873 of 6156
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Originally Posted by disco904 View Post

I've seen various reports on the TX-47F430S's contrast ratio. Some say (Westinghouse included) it's 5000:1, while others I've seen say 1000:1. Am I confusing the 42" with the 47"? Is the 42" 1000:1, and the 47" 5000:1?

I just looked on westy's website.. and it states 5000:1 for the 47 and 1000:1 for the 42.
post #2874 of 6156
This set works beautifully with the XBox 360, JPCarl.

The difference in the contrast ratios has to do with one being native (the 1000:1) and the other one representing the "dynamic" ratio. Bascially it is marketing crap that drives the higher number.
post #2875 of 6156
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Originally Posted by PanzerBoxb View Post

This set works beautifully with the XBox 360, JPCarl.

The difference in the contrast ratios has to do with one being native (the 1000:1) and the other one representing the "dynamic" ratio. Bascially it is marketing crap that drives the higher number.

sry for the noobish question.. but then both these sets are identical except size correct?
post #2876 of 6156
Yeah the web site states 1,000 for the 42" and 5,000 for the 47" for contrast ratios. I don't think they would put native contrast for one and dynamic for the other. Why would they do that?

Also, does anyone know the TX 47" box measurements? I'm not sure if it'll fit in the back of my Camry or if I'll have to wait for our SUV to get home.
post #2877 of 6156
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Originally Posted by stevenscamaro View Post

sry for the noobish question.. but then both these sets are identical except size correct?

Essentially, yes.

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Originally Posted by Epik View Post

Also, does anyone know the TX 47" box measurements? I'm not sure if it'll fit in the back of my Camry or if I'll have to wait for our SUV to get home.

Dimensions are listed in this post.
post #2878 of 6156
Thanks Panzer, SUV it is lol.

Oh for those of you using this as a monitor for your PC. Would you recommend DVI to VGA or DVI to HDMI? For some reason I think of VGA as a lower quality connection than DVI/HDMI. But I've read the VGA comes out good on this tv.

Am I allowed to post prices for a few different sets and ask for opinions on which would be the best deal? Ok I can do this without discussing price. Basically I can either get the LVM-47w1, TX 47" from BB, or the Samsung LNS4695D all for about the same price. Which would you guys purchase?
post #2879 of 6156
Well just when I thought I was one of the lucky ones that has no problem with the TX42 until now. I purchased on 7/30/07 and it has been good so far to me. I have mine hooked up through Dishnetwork HD/DVR with no problems on HDMI 1,2,3 and 4. I also have PS3 hooked through the HDMI's as well with no problems, no flickering and no audio drop outs. Things as been going good/well for me in 22 days, just finished showing a buddy planet earth as how well it looks good on this 1080p.

We got done viewing it and left to get some to eat. Came back to turn it on for some more HD viewing and all of the sudden the TV shows lights but no input came through. Unplugged it from the outlet for a merly 2 minutes and plugged it back in with nothing showing (power light remains to be lit). I unplugged everything and plugged it backed in hope somehow it would reset itself. Still nothing, just a little light lit at the botton of the W logo. I will taking this back to BB and probably get another TV as I'm done with this brand.
post #2880 of 6156
disbthai, have you tried the 10-minute reset discussed elsewhere in this thread?

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Originally Posted by Epik View Post

Thanks Panzer, SUV it is lol.

Several people reported using sedans with no problems. I used a Nissan Xterra and that was a perfect fit in the cargo area with the seats down.

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Oh for those of you using this as a monitor for your PC. Would you recommend DVI to VGA or DVI to HDMI? For some reason I think of VGA as a lower quality connection than DVI/HDMI. But I've read the VGA comes out good on this tv.

DVI->HDMI is pure digital through the entire path. If you use the VGA, you go from digital, to analog, back to digital. It will still look good, but the difference is noticeable. If you have a choice, go to the HDMI port.

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Am I allowed to post prices for a few different sets and ask for opinions on which would be the best deal?

Price and deal discussions are supposed to be reserved for the subscriber area. That's not to say that it hasn't happened elsewhere (in this thread) but it is generally frowned upon by the moderators.
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