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post #4471 of 6026
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Originally Posted by eldritch2k4 View Post

I picked the TX-42 up on Tuesday, calibrated it and then updated the firmware. I thought I noticed some picture degradation. Then, I noticed that it had reset my calibration to factory. Once I reset everything to the settings I got after calibrating, the picture was back to looking good.

Same here. The picture is fine after upgrading the firmware. I really love this TV. I think it has one of the best overall pictures regardless of price -- my previous set was a Sony WEGA HDTV tube set (heavy as all hell), so I'm comparing the Westy to an industry standard. While the picture may have some technical flaws (eg black scenes), the general experience is WOW -- easily comparable to high end Samsungs LCDS, just go to BB and compare with an open mind.
post #4472 of 6026
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Originally Posted by ixpagan View Post

Martin,
The issues experienced with my TX were constant lockups, the remote would not respond. Popping noise, not sure where that was coming from. Sometimes I would turn it on and all I would get is the "W" logo, nothing else. At the time Westinghouse was useless. They recommended that I cycle the power on the unit - disconnect the power cable every once in a while, Sometimes it worked sometimes it didnt. Right now I don't see anything in this price range that's worth picking up. Prices are going down - my recommendation would be is to be patient. When I picked up the TX47 I got it at a great price and was happy with the initial performance until the issues started. Eventually I ended up with a Samsung LNT 4665F as a replacement which I am very happy with and would recommend. In the end I ended up paying about $200.00 more for the Samsung and that's getting a super deal on Amazon over the Xmas holidays. I think it was worth the money. I checked today's prices on my set and prices are now in the 1600.00 to 1900.00 price range online, way over what I paid for it. If I were to do it over. I would have waited another year. I don't remember having to go through this much trouble when buying CRT TVs.

You know, I have noticed a popping sound now and then. I have no idea what it was, but I've got an electric heater and all kinds of junk in my room so I wasn't even sure it was the TV... any hypothesis about what it could be?

How long did your set last before these issues started to come up? I've had mine two weeks, I'm hoping stuff doesn't come up, but I've got a 4 year warranty from Best Buy so I guess it doesn't matter- if something goes wrong I'll get it fixed or replaced.

Also, you said you had the 47" right? I wonder if those lockup problems are restricted to it and the 42" performs better?

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I got my PS3 last night and hooked it up via HDMI. Everything works GREAT. One annoying-ish thing is that when the PS3 changes resolutions (1080p in the menu to 720p for a game) the little info box pops up for a few seconds. Unnecessary, I think, but whatever.

Was playing Orange Box and noticed it has a strange little border on the right and bottom edge- it looks like it occurs when the game puts some kind of filter over what's going on on-screen (zooming in with a scope, etc.) so I'm guessing that it's a 1:1 pixel mapping thing, since it didn't happen with a Blu-Ray movie. *shrug* Setting the picture to Fill obviously fixes this, but like everybody else I wish it would overscan less or let us set how much it zooms in. But after reading about so many people with PS3 problems, I'm extremely happy everything is working. Watching Spiderman 3 on Blu-Ray confirmed that the speedy-shot-pixelization is in fact the broadcasts coming from the TV, because all the fast motion and shots in the movie looked fine. I'm actually quite impressed with how well the set handles speedy stuff when coming from a decent source.

I've finally noticed some banding- the only place I can see it is on the PS3's menu. The background color sort of fades in and out, and for about 3 seconds during that fade I can see banding. However, it goes away after that even though the colors in the background don't look that different. Strange, but glad this is the only time I've seen it.


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Originally Posted by XxProtocolxX View Post

Beefy we have the same model and firmware, can you tell me if when at a brightness of 41 and above you see white horizontal lines in blacks while looking at the screen from a side view. It should be pretty noticeable when you have a completely black image up. I suggest a wide screen DVD, so you have the two black bars on top and bottom - It's easily visible there)

Thanks.

I took a look at my set with the brightness at 45 last night. Did not see any white lines in black.
post #4473 of 6026
The popping audio on my TX-47 is my biggest annoyance with this TV out of the many others.
post #4474 of 6026
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Originally Posted by nascar24 View Post

The popping audio on my TX-47 is my biggest annoyance with this TV out of the many others.

What exactly do you mean by popping? Is the hardware itself making noise, or is the popping coming from the speakers?
post #4475 of 6026
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Originally Posted by wxman08844 View Post

What exactly do you mean by popping? Is the hardware itself making noise, or is the popping coming from the speakers?

It sounds like it's the hardware, but I'm not sure at all. For me, it's just one pop every couple of days. Don't know if it is more or less frequent with anybody else.
post #4476 of 6026
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Originally Posted by Martez View Post

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I've finally noticed some banding- the only place I can see it is on the PS3's menu. The background color sort of fades in and out, and for about 3 seconds during that fade I can see banding. However, it goes away after that even though the colors in the background don't look that different. Strange, but glad this is the only time I've seen it.

The TV isn't banding, the XMB background is designed to look that way. Each color does it.
post #4477 of 6026
So, I've got the April 13, 2007 build TV with 5110_1.1.0 software installed. Westinghouse website says no available updates.

So basically, as an early adopter I'm (at least so far) being passed over for firmware updates? This sucks...

Part Number: TW-51201-L047A
post #4478 of 6026
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Originally Posted by cbh0531 View Post

The TV isn't banding, the XMB background is designed to look that way. Each color does it.

It's designed to go from smooth color fades to fugly ones for a few seconds? I don't understand. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to hear it, because that means I haven't seen any banding at all so far, but I don't get how/why the background does that.
post #4479 of 6026
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Originally Posted by Martez View Post

You know, I have noticed a popping sound now and then. I have no idea what it was, but I've got an electric heater and all kinds of junk in my room so I wasn't even sure it was the TV... any hypothesis about what it could be?

How long did your set last before these issues started to come up? I've had mine two weeks, I'm hoping stuff doesn't come up, but I've got a 4 year warranty from Best Buy so I guess it doesn't matter- if something goes wrong I'll get it fixed or replaced.

Also, you said you had the 47" right? I wonder if those lockup problems are restricted to it and the 42" performs better?

--

I got my PS3 last night and hooked it up via HDMI. Everything works GREAT. One annoying-ish thing is that when the PS3 changes resolutions (1080p in the menu to 720p for a game) the little info box pops up for a few seconds. Unnecessary, I think, but whatever.

Was playing Orange Box and noticed it has a strange little border on the right and bottom edge- it looks like it occurs when the game puts some kind of filter over what's going on on-screen (zooming in with a scope, etc.) so I'm guessing that it's a 1:1 pixel mapping thing, since it didn't happen with a Blu-Ray movie. *shrug* Setting the picture to Fill obviously fixes this, but like everybody else I wish it would overscan less or let us set how much it zooms in. But after reading about so many people with PS3 problems, I'm extremely happy everything is working. Watching Spiderman 3 on Blu-Ray confirmed that the speedy-shot-pixelization is in fact the broadcasts coming from the TV, because all the fast motion and shots in the movie looked fine. I'm actually quite impressed with how well the set handles speedy stuff when coming from a decent source.

I've finally noticed some banding- the only place I can see it is on the PS3's menu. The background color sort of fades in and out, and for about 3 seconds during that fade I can see banding. However, it goes away after that even though the colors in the background don't look that different. Strange, but glad this is the only time I've seen it.




I took a look at my set with the brightness at 45 last night. Did not see any white lines in black.

Martez,
I had the TX47 for two weeks before the issues started. I owned the unit for 28 days before I had enough and decided to return it. Use TVblink to check for banding and dead pixels http://www.tvblink.com/

Best of Luck
post #4480 of 6026
We have been having problems with our elevators at work for years now. Every morning you can hear almost everyone waiting for the elevators complaining on how slow they are and how they are constantly breaking down. The other day I get into the elevator, I don't know how I've never seen this before....I've been there for 8 years....on the very top of the elevator inside there is a plate that states manufactured by Westinghouse. I just had to chuckle, the people in the elevator must of thought I was nuts. I just wanted to share that.

Peace
post #4481 of 6026
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Originally Posted by ixpagan View Post

Martez,
I had the TX47 for two weeks before the issues started. I owned the unit for 28 days before I had enough and decided to return it. Use TVblink to check for banding and dead pixels http://www.tvblink.com/

Best of Luck

Thanks for the link, I will try this out in the coming week. I looked at the Scores page there and saw the Westinghouse set has a perfect score :P
post #4482 of 6026
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Originally Posted by ixpagan View Post

We have been having problems with our elevators at work for years now. Every morning you can hear almost everyone waiting for the elevators complaining on how slow they are and how they are constantly breaking down. The other day I get into the elevator, I don't know how I've never seen this before....I've been there for 8 years....on the very top of the elevator inside there is a plate that states manufactured by Westinghouse. I just had to chuckle, the people in the elevator must of thought I was nuts. I just wanted to share that.

Peace

yeah, we have one where I work at the Maryland Science Center. The elevator is as old as the building itself, about 33 years old, and it still works! I hope my tv lasts that long!
post #4483 of 6026
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Originally Posted by wxman08844 View Post

What exactly do you mean by popping? Is the hardware itself making noise, or is the popping coming from the speakers?

Popping comes out of the speakers at random intervals but quite often at that, Much more noticable when you are using it as a PC monitor and not using the speakers from the TV. Seems to be something with the HDMI as I dont believe it happens on any of the other inputs. Was hoping but not holding my breath that firmware may fix my one major annoyance with this TV. I now just hit the mute button so I can not hear it while using as a PC monitor.
post #4484 of 6026
I just purchased the TX-42F430S earlier this week. I have the 1.3 firmware with an Oct. 2007 build date. I haven't witnessed most of the problems listed here. However, I have ran across a different problem. I wanted to see if anyone else had seen anything on this issue:

Basically, whenever I hook something up through my HDMI ports, I can't get the sound to export via the optical audio cord to my receiver. If I switch to internal audio, everything is fine. If I got to component or composite inputs, it will output externally as well. But for some reason, it doesn't like to output with the HDMI inputs.

I have two HDMI cables plugged in. One is going to my Motorola cable box and the other to my Toshiba A2 HDDVD player. Neither one has sound unless I switch back to internal sound. Very bizarre. Has anyone else witnessed this problem?
post #4485 of 6026
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Originally Posted by Saberj View Post

I just purchased the TX-42F430S earlier this week. I have the 1.3 firmware with an Oct. 2007 build date. I haven't witnessed most of the problems listed here. However, I have ran across a different problem. I wanted to see if anyone else had seen anything on this issue:

Basically, whenever I hook something up through my HDMI ports, I can't get the sound to export via the optical audio cord to my receiver. If I switch to internal audio, everything is fine. If I got to component or composite inputs, it will output externally as well. But for some reason, it doesn't like to output with the HDMI inputs.

I have two HDMI cables plugged in. One is going to my Motorola cable box and the other to my Toshiba A2 HDDVD player. Neither one has sound unless I switch back to internal sound. Very bizarre. Has anyone else witnessed this problem?

I do believe you are experiencing the HDMI HDCP spec. I believe the early TX-47 build was the only one that allowed this until they fixed it with newer firmware. What you have happening is by design and you can thank all the movie and TV studios for all this.
post #4486 of 6026
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Originally Posted by nascar24 View Post

I do believe you are experiencing the HDMI HDCP spec. I believe the early TX-47 build was the only one that allowed this until they fixed it with newer firmware. What you have happening is by design and you can thank all the movie and TV studios for all this.

Its intentional to make it so that you can't send out an audio signal to your receiver? Is there a way around that? It seems to defeat the whole purpose of a unified audio output.
post #4487 of 6026
Anyone else out there with a Toshiba SD-V592 DVD/VCR combo player? I am hooking mine up to my TX-47F430S via HDMI and just get really horribly purple/yellow colors and a funky resolution. I swapped a new 1.3a cat2 HDMI cable in and still the same thing. It's either the player or my TV, I don't have any other HDMI devices currently so I can't rule either out at this time... just curious if anyone else had the same device/problem? I hope its not my TV :/
post #4488 of 6026
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Originally Posted by nascar24 View Post

Popping comes out of the speakers at random intervals but quite often at that, Much more noticable when you are using it as a PC monitor and not using the speakers from the TV. Seems to be something with the HDMI as I dont believe it happens on any of the other inputs. Was hoping but not holding my breath that firmware may fix my one major annoyance with this TV. I now just hit the mute button so I can not hear it while using as a PC monitor.

I heard the/a pop last night, it definitely didn't come from the speakers- I had it muted; also had an NBC broadcast on.

Also, I had my first experience with the HDMI ports playing dumb. When switching between TV and HDMI, it kept giving me a "No Signal Detected." Hitting the Input button on the remote and selecting the specific HDMI port worked fine. I'm coming to the conclusion that this remote just plain sucks. Then again, it may be the TV, but I do not have any kind of other/universal remote to test this theory on.
post #4489 of 6026
ok. as i already said, I exchanged TX47 built1 to TX47 built2 firmware 1.3 because it didn't support 1080p/24hz. I noticed decreased picture quality...... today i can say 2 things for sure: 1. looking at TV from an angle changes the picture, and it becomes too bright and noisy 2. in PS3 i noticed at the bottom of the screen, sometimes a line is flickering.

i want to exchange it again
post #4490 of 6026
I have a TX-47F430S. I registered on the westinghouse site and it says there is no firmware available. I purchsed in November of 07. It is currently on 5110_1.1.0. Built on April 13 2007. Is there no update for this TV?
post #4491 of 6026
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Originally Posted by kolyan2k View Post

in PS3 i noticed at the bottom of the screen, sometimes a line is flickering.

I saw this yesterday. I reset the PS3 and it was gone.
post #4492 of 6026
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Originally Posted by mander View Post

I have a TX-47F430S. I registered on the westinghouse site and it says there is no firmware available. I purchsed in November of 07. It is currently on 5110_1.1.0. Built on April 13 2007. Is there no update for this TV?

Nope, you have the original panel with the original video processor. Your fine.
post #4493 of 6026
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Originally Posted by Martez View Post

I saw this yesterday. I reset the PS3 and it was gone.

yeah. it went away in about 5-10 minutes. but this is a problem with Westy. I have not seen this before i exchanged the TV. I also dont know if its the built2 or the firmware upgrade to 1.3
post #4494 of 6026
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Originally Posted by kolyan2k View Post

yeah. it went away in about 5-10 minutes. but this is a problem with Westy. I have not seen this before i exchanged the TV. I also dont know if its the built2 or the firmware upgrade to 1.3

What exactly would be the cause of it? Just the way the TV is reading the info from the system? Or maybe it's a problem with HDMI devices across the board?
post #4495 of 6026
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Originally Posted by kolyan2k View Post

ok. as i already said, I exchanged TX47 built1 to TX47 built2 firmware 1.3 because it didn't support 1080p/24hz. I noticed decreased picture quality...... today i can say 2 things for sure: 1. looking at TV from an angle changes the picture, and it becomes too bright and noisy 2. in PS3 i noticed at the bottom of the screen, sometimes a line is flickering.

i want to exchange it again

So you notice the noise at an angle too huh. It's in the blacks right?

It's the new firmware, I never had this with 1.2.0
post #4496 of 6026
Anyone know why audio going through the tv to external speakers through the dual rca sounds bad? As in loses definition?

When my 360 is hooked up to it via hdmi, I can't really differentiate between sounds infront of and behind me when I have the speakers hooked to the tv. When I have the speakers hooked directly to the 360, sound quality is improved immensely and I can get front/rear sound differentiation.

I'm using 2.1 speakers, btw. Headphones also make this very apparent.
post #4497 of 6026
Edit - After being unplugged for a about an hour I gave it another shot and it came back with the updated firmware. Such a big relief.

I had the October build, with firmware 1.1 installed.

Part number: TW-51122-c042A

Westinghouse's site gave me SusanII_v1.3.0_20071026.rar as the newest version of the firmware.

I unrared the file on to a freshly formatted usb drive, unhooked all cables including the power, inserted the usb drive into the tv, plugged the cable back in and powered on the tv. The screen remained blank, the indicator light started as amber, switched to blinking blue for a few moments, and then switched to solid blue. After a few moments I unplugged the usb drive and attempted to power off/on the TV and got absolutely nothing.

I tried to unplug the tv for a few minutes and plug it back in, but with no success.
post #4498 of 6026
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Originally Posted by XxProtocolxX View Post

So you notice the noise at an angle too huh. It's in the blacks right?

It's the new firmware, I never had this with 1.2.0

we are probably talking about different things. that problem came with built2 not the firmware upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3. the problem is that from angles the picture looks completely different, too much white.
post #4499 of 6026
Hi everyone, i'm very sorry to switch a topic or anything, but I can't seem to find which firmware allows 5.1 output to passthrough the tv's S/PDIF connection...i got it a month ago, firmware 1.2.0...am I out of the 5.1 passthrough party with this firmware?
post #4500 of 6026
hi all,

after having a 46 plasma (philips) konk out on me i'm back in the westinghouse fold with the 42 tx.

i used to own an lvm 42 set.

the new set is beautiful, the only thing i remember from the first one was that the sound had much more oomph. this new one sounds like it's missing the sub which i cannot seem to turn on. maybe left over from when they used to put a sub in the tv?
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