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post #4591 of 6037
dkeever...quick thought: Have you tried a different HDMI cable?
post #4592 of 6037
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Originally Posted by junebug1701 View Post

Dave, go get the serial number off of the box. It's on a sticker--peel it off and stick it into the owner's manual!

James

It sure is . Thanks James. Yeah, the carton had four separate, repeating labels. I peeled one off and its in the owner's manual now .
post #4593 of 6037
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Originally Posted by dkeever View Post

No response from either the Cruzer or the Westy for several minutes. Press and hold Westy power, get amber light. Remove Cruzer. Press and hold Westy power, and it powers up. Software is lited as 5112_1.3.0 June 2007 build (which is the same as before I tried to install the firmware udate).

I also tried extracting update_WDE42 to the Cruzer, but got the same result.

Any clue where I'm going wrong?

You've already got the latest firmware for your set. The file you downloaded was
LX 42 01_OSD_FW_1.3.0C07.rar, correct? If you had a later build set you would have downloaded a file called SusanII_v1.3.0_20071026.rar. Notice they're both 1.3.0, so that first file is the correct one for your set. As for why the HDMI doesn't work, I'm not sure. You could try a hardware reset. Hold the power button down for 10 seconds or so until it resets. You will lose all your settings, so write that stuff down beforehand.

James
post #4594 of 6037
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Originally Posted by x84HurstOlds View Post

Sorry to hear that, and I hope that you can get it serviced, that is exactly what I would try to do. I feel very fortunate to have an early example of this model, though I think from previous posts mine might also be a better example than yours, as I seem to have excellent viewing angles, and am able to get to what I think is an excellent picture. Anyway, I would be interested to know if and how you convince them.

Ed

I have an RMA request in, so I should know soon. It will have to be shipped out, so the claim of in-home service is a bit misleading IMO. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet though since I haven't gotten my money's worth out of it.

Despite what I said last spring I've warmed up to the panel. It's a cheaper variant of IPS but it's still IPS. I've come to appreciate the strengths of that technology over time compared to the VA mode panels. If they elected to replace my set and I got one with the cheap MVA panel some people have been seeing I'd be quite upset. Since it is the display controller that failed I'm wondering if my set will come back with a Trident HiDTV Pro LX in it like it has now or if I'll be stuck with the new cheaper processor they switched to. I guess time will tell.
post #4595 of 6037
Does anyone have the remote control code for the tx-42f430s to use with the onkyo tx-sr605?
post #4596 of 6037
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

I have an RMA request in, so I should know soon. It will have to be shipped out, so the claim of in-home service is a bit misleading IMO. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet though since I haven't gotten my money's worth out of it.

Despite what I said last spring I've warmed up to the panel. It's a cheaper variant of IPS but it's still IPS. I've come to appreciate the strengths of that technology over time compared to the VA mode panels. If they elected to replace my set and I got one with the cheap MVA panel some people have been seeing I'd be quite upset. Since it is the display controller that failed I'm wondering if my set will come back with a Trident HiDTV Pro LX in it like it has now or if I'll be stuck with the new cheaper processor they switched to. I guess time will tell.

How do I find out which panel/processor my set has? I'm assuming the serial number but where can I see which serials have which components?
post #4597 of 6037
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Originally Posted by junebug1701 View Post

You've already got the latest firmware for your set. The file you downloaded was
LX 42 01_OSD_FW_1.3.0C07.rar, correct? If you had a later build set you would have downloaded a file called SusanII_v1.3.0_20071026.rar. Notice they're both 1.3.0, so that first file is the correct one for your set. As for why the HDMI doesn't work, I'm not sure. You could try a hardware reset. Hold the power button down for 10 seconds or so until it resets. You will lose all your settings, so write that stuff down beforehand.

James

Downloaded file was LX 42 01_OSD_FW_1.3.0C07.rar. I also tried a new HDMI cable, and 10-second "master reset" but no joy. It worked for a few minutes right after I powered it up the first time after installing the new HDMI cable, but them went blank and I have not been able to get it to repeat this feat.

I have tried all of the HDMI ports on the Westy.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
David
post #4598 of 6037
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Originally Posted by dkeever View Post


I have tried all of the HDMI ports on the Westy.

Any other suggestions?

Thanks,
David

Perhaps connect via non-HDMI cables...and then if that allows the set to display, double-check your Video settings within the Menu???

...after that...I'd have little to suggest
post #4599 of 6037
Found this via Google. I am having the exact same problem as others. Westinghouse TX-42F430S and a brand new Toshiba HD-A3 hd dvd player.

If I turn on the hd dvd player with no disc in it, it takes a good few minutes but will eventually show the player setup screen. But when I try to play '300' HD DVD, it goes to black screen, no audio. However, I just tried a standard DVD, at first it gave me the black screen, but a minute or so later the video and audio showed up. So, standard DVD's upconverting to 1080i seem to work. But a no go on the HD DVD movies.
post #4600 of 6037
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Originally Posted by dougleonard View Post

I agree that I will not get the $2000 Sony for $1000, and that's understandable. This was just my opinion of the set and it didn't render someone trying to say what I know and don't know. I have seen and set up a lot of HDTV's for other people and I don't see these artifacts on their LGs, Sonys, and Toshibas. As far as the 1:1 pixel mapping, I was lacking in that area of knowledge about the TV. This does raise a question though. Why would I want it if it is going to show vertical blanking and imperfections of the broadcasters? I can understand with connecting a computer or blue ray, mabee they could have some settings in the calibration menu that could allow us to disable it or adjust geometry some. I understand it would have to be very basic settings as things could really get screwed up fast. I would rather overscan the set than look at junk. What's 1/8 of an inch in the scheme of things anyway? Hell, the last movie I went to was overshooting the screen by 6 inches or so. Anyways, it was just my opinion. I now have a different Insignia 1080P and things look good enough on it. I'm sure I will find some shortcomings of the set, but nothing is perfect, especially in this price range. Thank you all for your help!

*Sigh*...you don't even have to go into the calibration menu...just hit the "Aspect" button, for God's sake. As to why you would want it...many broadcasters have their s**t together and you get a full 1920x1080 (some are sending that, some are sending 720p) picture. Likewise with game consoles, PCs, HD-DVD and BD. The only problem is the few broadcasters who *don't* send a clean signal. And for those, you can use "fill". Seriously...if you don't want to bother with research or paging through the manual, then don't go around complaining about "problems" that aren't problems at all.

Ed
post #4601 of 6037
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

I have an RMA request in, so I should know soon. It will have to be shipped out, so the claim of in-home service is a bit misleading IMO. I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet though since I haven't gotten my money's worth out of it.

Despite what I said last spring I've warmed up to the panel. It's a cheaper variant of IPS but it's still IPS. I've come to appreciate the strengths of that technology over time compared to the VA mode panels. If they elected to replace my set and I got one with the cheap MVA panel some people have been seeing I'd be quite upset. Since it is the display controller that failed I'm wondering if my set will come back with a Trident HiDTV Pro LX in it like it has now or if I'll be stuck with the new cheaper processor they switched to. I guess time will tell.

Oy...yeah, Westy really screwed the pooch with the changes to this set, they were building a decent reputation with the LVM line, then came the TX failures, the long wait for firmware, and then they started throwing cheaper panels and components in without changing the model number. I have to say, as happy as I am with my set, especially for the price, I don't see my next one being a Westy. Better sets have become affordable. I might trust them if I was looking for a PC monitor or a small panel for a spare room, but for anything 37" and above, I think I'd look elsewhere now. Which is really a shame.

Ed
post #4602 of 6037
Just bought TX-42F430S last week. Initially hooked up only to Cable (coax straight in from the wall outlet) and Wii (via Component). Both are working fine.

I've tried to hook up my MacBook Pro to an HDMI port, and I get only "No Input Detected". I know the Mac output is fine, as I often have it hooked up to an external monitor. (Mac output is through a DVI port, and I bought a ridiculously overpriced DVI-HDMI converter cable at BestBuy).

[EDIT: Also, when I am connected, the Mac 'Detect Displays' function does see and correctly identify the HDTV, so from that side is believes it is sending a signal]

I searched the thread for similar problems; saw a suggestion to unplug the TV to force a reset. Tried, that, still nothing.

I'm a little limited in my ability to test because I don't have any other input sources that output HDMI, and I only have the one cable.

Has anyone seen a similar issue? Any suggestions for how I might prove or disprove that there is an issue with the TV (I'd rather avoid having to box the thing up and lug it back into the store).
post #4603 of 6037
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Originally Posted by myawn View Post

I've tried to hook up my MacBook Pro to an HDMI port, and I get only "No Input Detected". I know the Mac output is fine, as I often have it hooked up to an external monitor. (Mac output is through a DVI port, and I bought a ridiculously overpriced DVI-HDMI converter cable at BestBuy).

I don't have any advice other than the fact that I have a Mac Mini working with the 47" TV. The cable is just a cheap as I could find HDMI to DVI-D on eBay (it was like $6 or $7 shipped) and worked perfectly the first time I plugged it in. Seems like I also had it working with the DVI-VGA adapter that came with the Mac Mini before I got the HDMI cable. Maybe your's just doesn't like that expensive cable
post #4604 of 6037
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Originally Posted by myawn View Post

Just bought TX-42F430S last week. Initially hooked up only to Cable (coax straight in from the wall outlet) and Wii (via Component). Both are working fine.

I've tried to hook up my MacBook Pro to an HDMI port, and I get only "No Input Detected". I know the Mac output is fine, as I often have it hooked up to an external monitor. (Mac output is through a DVI port, and I bought a ridiculously overpriced DVI-HDMI converter cable at BestBuy).

[EDIT: Also, when I am connected, the Mac 'Detect Displays' function does see and correctly identify the HDTV, so from that side is believes it is sending a signal]

I searched the thread for similar problems; saw a suggestion to unplug the TV to force a reset. Tried, that, still nothing.

I'm a little limited in my ability to test because I don't have any other input sources that output HDMI, and I only have the one cable.

Has anyone seen a similar issue? Any suggestions for how I might prove or disprove that there is an issue with the TV (I'd rather avoid having to box the thing up and lug it back into the store).

Have you tried a bunch of different resolutions or just 1080p?
post #4605 of 6037
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Originally Posted by jkrudeen View Post

Found this via Google. I am having the exact same problem as others. Westinghouse TX-42F430S and a brand new Toshiba HD-A3 hd dvd player.

If I turn on the hd dvd player with no disc in it, it takes a good few minutes but will eventually show the player setup screen. But when I try to play '300' HD DVD, it goes to black screen, no audio. However, I just tried a standard DVD, at first it gave me the black screen, but a minute or so later the video and audio showed up. So, standard DVD's upconverting to 1080i seem to work. But a no go on the HD DVD movies.

For what it's worth, I found out my problem was the Toshiba HD-A3. I just replaced it with a regular DVD player with upconvert (Pioneer DV400V) and it works perfectly via HDMI. Upconvert is not quite HD-DVD quality, but close enough to hold me over until Blu-Ray becomes more affordable. Boot up and response to commands are a lot faster as well.

You might try the Toshiba HD-A3 Forum, or a different player.

Good luck
David
post #4606 of 6037
i'm tryin to upgrade to 1.3.0 firmware on a TX-42f430s

part number is 51122C042A, serial # is 5112j73701860.

followed all instructions and advice here on the forum, tired numerous times to get it to take the update.

i have a feeling it is the flash drive I am using. Using a San Disk 1 GB Micro Cruzer.

Anyone with the same part number as me, tell me what kind of flash drive you used to successfully update.
post #4607 of 6037
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Originally Posted by G String View Post

Holy Christ this TV's a piece of ****.

I have my computer hooked up via HDMI and the dynamic contrast "feature" was going off while scrolling over dark and light backgrounds and driving me nucking futs. Of course I could use VGA but VGA looks like ass compared to HDMI.

So, I gathered that a firmware update may solve the auto contrast adjust. I just drove back and forth to Target, Circuit City, and Best Buy looking for a flash drive that actually WORKS with this TV. The Sandisk Cruzer micro 1GB worked, but the firmware update didn't solve the dynamic contrast ********. The 1.3 firmware DID fix the illusionary "burn in" that occasionally popped up with dark backgrounds but it did nothing in regards to the auto dynamic contrast.

hey what is your part number, cuz I tried to update the firmware with the same drive but it didn't work
post #4608 of 6037
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Originally Posted by flabioh View Post

Have you tried a bunch of different resolutions or just 1080p?

I just tried several others, and get the same result. Thanks for the suggestion.
post #4609 of 6037
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Originally Posted by scottknight View Post

I don't have any advice other than the fact that I have a Mac Mini working with the 47" TV. The cable is just a cheap as I could find HDMI to DVI-D on eBay (it was like $6 or $7 shipped) and worked perfectly the first time I plugged it in. Seems like I also had it working with the DVI-VGA adapter that came with the Mac Mini before I got the HDMI cable. Maybe your's just doesn't like that expensive cable

I ordered a cheap converter cable off eBay; once that arrives in a couple of days I'll see if that makes a difference.
post #4610 of 6037
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Originally Posted by geoffp1 View Post

i'm tryin to upgrade to 1.3.0 firmware on a TX-42f430s

followed all instructions and advice here on the forum, tired numerous times to get it to take the update.

i have a feeling it is the flash drive I am using. Using a San Disk 1 GB Micro Cruzer.

Anyone with the same part number as me, tell me what kind of flash drive you used to successfully update.

That should work. Make sure that you format the Cruzer FAT32. Do a COMPLETE format, not a quick format. Make sure the only files on it are "safe-kernel.img1" and "update_LCD1080CX.tgz".

Unplug the power cable from the set. Plug in the flash drive. Plug the power cable back in. You should get an amber power light. Momentarily push the power button on the set. You should see the power light start to flash purple. After a few minutes, the flashing will stop. Unplug the flash drive at this point, and then cycle the power switch off/on.

I did this with an SD card inside a Lexar card reader which I plugged into the set and it worked fine.
post #4611 of 6037
Well, Westinghouse's claim of in-home service on the 47" set is false advertising. I was told that, even though the set is under full warranty, I would have to ship the set to their repair center in California at my expense and would have to arrange that shipping myself. I wasn't really upset with Westinghouse before, afterall nothing is ever 100% reliable... I just go unlucky. I'm upset now though after having to spend money to repair a product they are supposed to be standing by. Is 10 months all a $1600 tv is good for anymore? This will be the last Westinghouse tv I own, I can say that much.
post #4612 of 6037
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

Well, Westinghouse's claim of in-home service on the 47" set is false advertising. I was told that, even though the set is under full warranty, I would have to ship the set to their repair center in California at my expense and would have to arrange that shipping myself. I wasn't really upset with Westinghouse before, afterall nothing is ever 100% reliable... I just go unlucky. I'm upset now though after having to spend money to repair a product they are supposed to be standing by. Is 10 months all a $1600 tv is good for anymore? This will be the last Westinghouse tv I own, I can say that much.

X

Sorry to hear that - I'm glad I got rid of mine when I could. Curious, did you get a service contract with your TV from the vendor?
post #4613 of 6037
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Originally Posted by junebug1701 View Post

That should work. Make sure that you format the Cruzer FAT32. Do a COMPLETE format, not a quick format. Make sure the only files on it are "safe-kernel.img1" and "update_LCD1080CX.tgz".

Unplug the power cable from the set. Plug in the flash drive. Plug the power cable back in. You should get an amber power light. Momentarily push the power button on the set. You should see the power light start to flash purple. After a few minutes, the flashing will stop. Unplug the flash drive at this point, and then cycle the power switch off/on.

I did this with an SD card inside a Lexar card reader which I plugged into the set and it worked fine.


I have tried this exactly as you state it. Do you have the same part number as me?
post #4614 of 6037
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

Well, Westinghouse's claim of in-home service on the 47" set is false advertising. I was told that, even though the set is under full warranty, I would have to ship the set to their repair center in California at my expense and would have to arrange that shipping myself. I wasn't really upset with Westinghouse before, afterall nothing is ever 100% reliable... I just go unlucky. I'm upset now though after having to spend money to repair a product they are supposed to be standing by. Is 10 months all a $1600 tv is good for anymore? This will be the last Westinghouse tv I own, I can say that much.

That's kind of ridiculous. Weren't there posts here by people who had someone come to service the TV?
post #4615 of 6037
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Originally Posted by Xcalibur_255 View Post

Well, Westinghouse's claim of in-home service on the 47" set is false advertising. I was told that, even though the set is under full warranty, I would have to ship the set to their repair center in California at my expense and would have to arrange that shipping myself. I wasn't really upset with Westinghouse before, afterall nothing is ever 100% reliable... I just go unlucky. I'm upset now though after having to spend money to repair a product they are supposed to be standing by. Is 10 months all a $1600 tv is good for anymore? This will be the last Westinghouse tv I own, I can say that much.

I wouldn't stand for that BS while the TV is still under their warranty and the card says otherwise. File a BBB report if they don't follow through with setting a pick up from at least UPS at their expense. Is there no Best Buy near you? Or perhaps you didn't buy it at Best buy which I understand why they would want it to be fixed at their repair shop, But it no doubt should be on their dime in any case being that it is stated as IN home service. What kind of cost are you talking anyways in sending this thing in! That would also mean you would have to insure it for what ever you paid for it on top of that.
post #4616 of 6037
I have the April 2007 build of the TX42, and 51101-L042A. My firmware was 5110-1.1.0 and I had no problems updating to 5110-1.2.0 as that was the file made available off the Westy site after inputting my TV's information.

I used a SanDisk USB and I ONLY unzipped the main file, leaving the two file inside alone as per the Westy instructions.

It does seem like the DC can actually be turned off now.

It seems like I am having a new problem though... Every time there is a power outage, even for a split second, my TV turns itself on. I've had the TV for at least 6 months and I don't remember it doing that before. Does anybody have any ideas how I can prevent this from happening? We do seem to be getting a lot of brief power on/off cycles during these winter months and I don't need to come home to find the TV has turned itself on and has been on for hours.

Thanks,
George

Figured it out... Setting is 'power on plug', set to off. Guess the settings defaulted when upgrading the firmware.

Has anybody put together a chart of the different build dates, firmwares, video processors, LCD panels etc...? It would be nice to see all the possible permutations in one place.
post #4617 of 6037
I'm looking at this television set.
Is the $1200 dollar justified for this set?
Looking for a gaming tv, along with blu ray movie, SD and HDTV viewing, 8-10 ft from tv
post #4618 of 6037
bodean - I reviewed every page of this thread before asking myself that same question (except for gaming...I do that on another set). Personally, for all the negatives posted here, I opted to purchase the set anyway as seeing the set in action at 3 separate BB locations told my eyes that I would be satisfied for the money spent. That said, these same 154+ pages of owner's feedback also made me opt for an extended warranty (something I seldom do...but in the case of Westy's seemingly poor customer service, I felt it the prudent action).

For my own experience, I'm satisfied having purchased it.
post #4619 of 6037
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Originally Posted by w1ngman View Post

bodean - I reviewed every page of this thread before asking myself that same question (except for gaming...I do that on another set). Personally, for all the negatives posted here, I opted to purchase the set anyway as seeing the set in action at 3 separate BB locations told my eyes that I would be satisfied for the money spent. That said, these same 154+ pages of owner's feedback also made me opt for an extended warranty (something I seldom do...but in the case of Westy's seemingly poor customer service, I felt it the prudent action).

For my own experience, I'm satisfied having purchased it.



I'm very satisfied, and the only thing folks should be looking for on this type of site is a VERY COMMON problem that suggests defect.
I did not see that type of problem. Rather, IMHO, 99% of people who purchase any TV plug it in and enjoy it. The fraction of people who find a forum like this do so because they experience a problem. Similar threads can be found for almost any consumer electronic item. The PQ is terrific, even putting the price to one side, its one of the best I saw on the BB TV wall.
post #4620 of 6037
has anyone tried to calibrate their set for maximum black level?

i'm currently experimenting with the calibration menu and boosting the color saturation levels which results in a very bright and contrasty picture. then going back to the regular
user controls and adjusting everything down. liking the results so far.

i think the result of this is that it gives the user controls(outside of calibration mode) much more flexiblitly for contrast and brightness.
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