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post #5611 of 6156
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Originally Posted by teeger View Post

I have a TX-42F430S. The only options for aspect ratio change are "standard", "fill" and "overscan". No "streach" is offered to change a wrongly displayed 16:9 image that appears as 4:3. My Blu-ray player is an LG BH-200 which doesn't help much either, since it doesn't offer options for "streach".

Does anyone know of a newer firmware that may offer more options for changing the aspect ratio? Also, does anyone know what all of the various Westinghouse updates do in terms of the fixes they address?

Thanks!

Ian

Yeah, the Westy seems to stretch some 4:3 images to fill the screen on "Fill", but with some 4:3 channels on my cable, it just makes it a bit wider. I'd take another look in the old LG manual or make a post on the LG area of the forum. I've never encountered a DVD player that didn't enable a selection of aspect ratio. Are you using hdmi or component?
post #5612 of 6156
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Originally Posted by dizzie View Post

Yeah, the Westy seems to stretch some 4:3 images to fill the screen on "Fill", but with some 4:3 channels on my cable, it just makes it a bit wider. I'd take another look in the old LG manual or make a post on the LG area of the forum. I've never encountered a DVD player that didn't enable a selection of aspect ratio. Are you using hdmi or component?

Hey, Dizzie . . .

Thanks for your help.

The LG BH200 player is a combo Blu-ray / HD DVD player. A lot of folks have had trouble with it giving proper aspect ratio - mostly with standard DVD titles that were shot for 4:3 viewing. The player wants to stretch the pic to the 16:9 (full screen). The player only has options for the type of TV it's connected to (16:9 or 4:3). When connected to the Westy via HDMI, the LG player only offers the 16:9 option - which makes sense.

If you check out the forum here for the combo players, it seems a lot of folks are hoping a firmware upgrade will fix this issue. I am hoping that Westinghouse might have an option for stretch, which it doesn't.

I can only make the picture bigger with fill and even BIGGER with overscan.

Please let me know if you find anything which might help.

THanks again!

Ian
post #5613 of 6156
@teeger (Ian)

So, to clarify:

Are you seeing a wide picture that you need to decrease the width of? Or, are you seeing a narrow picture that you need to stretch out? Or both?

Diz
post #5614 of 6156
I recently went to the Westinghouse site to check on the latest firmware for my 42" TX-42F430S. It gave me the download to the 1.4.2 update and I followed the steps for upgrading. The light on my set never changed colors and now the television will not come on at all? Any help would be greatly appreciated..I'm freaking out.
post #5615 of 6156
Have you gotten it working again yet, CG? If not, I suggest trying again - the firmware probably didn't finish its job for one reason or another. Make sure you follow the instructions step by step starting with a newly formatted flash drive. Once you unpack the zip to the drive, don't tinker with it. Not on a Mac are you?

If all else fails, call Westy support - perhaps their website gave you the wrong firmware for your part number, which you will need to have handy when you call. This is not the model number. You'll find it on the back of the TV.

Good luck!!!
post #5616 of 6156
Just wanted to post my experience with this TV. Bought the 42", refurbished, from macmall.com for under 5 hundy! Got it 2 days later, hooked up the xbox, wii, and an antenna and started testing. First thing I noticed was the base stand was significantly warped and bowed up on one side but I could deal with that for the price. Xbox 360 looked amazing at 1080p over component cables (doesn't have HDMI out), Wii looked great over the A/V connection, and the tuner worked just fine - my local HD channels were beautiful (1080i and 720p). I also hooked up my PC via VGA cable and got it to work with little fuss at 1280x768 which looked incredible, no blurry text or overscan of any kind. Got it to sorta work at 1080p too, but there was intermittent flicker and blacking out so I reverted back to 1280x768. The text and icons were too small to read at 1080p anyway! =) So, nice big TV (my first HD), unbelievably cheap, and everything was working... I was king of the world! Then...

Started having problems turning back on after a shutdown. Googled it and found this thread, then started getting concerned. I can get around the shutdown problems with the 10 second reboot or just unplugging the set for a few seconds... truly annoying but again, for the price maybe I can deal with it.

Then I decided to test out the HDMI inputs. Oh boy. Connected a working HDMI cable to port 1 on the TV, reached to grab the other end to plug into my PC's HDMI out (AMD 780G mobo w/ onboard HDMI) and GOT ELECTROCUTED!!! Not a full 120 volt jolt but it definitely hurt. I can only assume that would have absolutely fried my mobo on the PC had I actually connected that cable. Ports 2 through 4 didn't shock me so I tried all three of them and couldn't get a picture at all, even though my computer detected the display, even identifying it as a Westinghouse! Tried power cycling, reboots, connecting things in different order, tweaking in the Catalyst Control Center, and every other trick I could think of and got nothing. Deal breaker.

Now I'm noticing even further annoyances such as picture dropping out when using the tuner (sound still comes through clearly) and a tendency to lock up when switching inputs. So far I've been able to overcome all these little glitches by power cycling the TV but I just can't trust it anymore, especially with the dead HDMI ports. I could try messing with the firmware updates but I'm beyond tinkering at this point. Called MacMall yesterday and was pleasantly surprised that it only took about 20 minutes and three "you need to talk to this department" transfers before getting an RMA - not too bad.

Now I'm waiting for my shipping label to show up in my inbox so I can send it back. In the meantime I'll continue to enjoy the TV for gaming and watching videos from my PC (over VGA of course). I'm really disappointed because when this TV works, it's really nice. Nothing fancy but certainly great for the price. The worst part is that I now have to wait around for another good deal to pop up before purchasing a new TV, and having this one around for a week really spoiled me. I may or may not go with another refurb, but I know for sure I'll be staying away from Westinghouse. I realize all TV's can be prone to glitches and malfunctions of one kind or another, but this line seems to be absolutely PLAGUED by them. Best of luck to those of you who own one that still works for you.
post #5617 of 6156
Looks like my TX-47F430S is getting replaced under extended warranty (the company is W3 Solutions), but as far as I can tell Westinghouse doesn't make a 47" LCD HDTV anymore (just a monitor).

Just wondering if anyone has experience with W3 and could let me know what to expect, whether it will be a credit or whether they'll replace it with another brand, etc...

Thanks !
post #5618 of 6156
I started getting striping along the right side of the screen, ( I bought the BB replacement plan-thank goodness). The Geeks came out and took a look at it and ordered the parts. ON July 23, they will be coming out to replace. I am going to have him take a look at the HDMI issue too.
post #5619 of 6156
New guy here, so take it easy on me...
Got a TX-47F430 connected to a HD4350. When I initially connected it no problems with the display, just the fact that the HDMI audio does not feed to the audio out. I updated the firmware and now i get the flicker and dropout problem when I have the PC displaying on the TV. No problems on the 1080i dvd player or old school xbox or ps2. My plan was to rollback to the original firmware but i have not been able to find that. No contact to customer service yet.
Thanks
post #5620 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Dopeeye View Post

New guy here, so take it easy on me...
Got a TX-47F430 connected to a HD4350. When I initially connected it no problems with the display, just the fact that the HDMI audio does not feed to the audio out. I updated the firmware and now i get the flicker and dropout problem when I have the PC displaying on the TV. No problems on the 1080i dvd player or old school xbox or ps2. My plan was to rollback to the original firmware but i have not been able to find that. No contact to customer service yet.
Thanks

I think I posted last the 1.3.0 firmware which was the last stable FW put out by Westy.

It has been reported as working for both 47" and the 42" there are several posts by different members with 42" trying it and it was a download for the 47" direct from Westy so should work for everyone.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post15031084

The second link is the one you want it is the 1.3.0 the first is 1.6.3 which doesn't work with 1080 sources at all.
post #5621 of 6156
Awesome!
The 1.3.0 firmware fixed the problem!

Thank you!
post #5622 of 6156
I've had my 42F403S TV for over a year now -- and mostly it's been "fed" 1080p material via Blu-ray and HD DVD. However, I recently started to notice the image "jitter" or "jump". It's not hugely jittery -- it looks like the image is bouncing slightly up-and-down - somewhat shakey. After playing around with the TV and a couple of different HD players - it appears to be an issue with interlaced signals. Whenever I play a 1080i source (either from the Blu-ray player or an HD DVD player it happens. But when the players are switched to output 1080p, the jitter stops.

Does anyone know if this might be firmware fixable? Currently I have version 130 (Oct 2007 build). Some suggest that the 130 firmware was the last "good" firmware from Westinghouse. Is it worth the risk to try other versions (new or older)?

Thanks . . .

Ian
post #5623 of 6156
These damn machines give us too many problems!

Hi, teeger. Got the pm. On the previous issue with scaling the picture, the only thing I can think of, which is somewhat of a poor fix, is to use component vid cables to get better aspect ratio options on the player and/ or the TV.

On the latest issue of studder - did you try going into the TV menu and selecting or deselecting "deinterlace" in the "calibrate" area of "video" in the menu? Or, perhaps this would be solved with the old component vid cables as well...

Good luck and may the force be with you!
post #5624 of 6156
We purchased a TX-47F430S just about 2 months ago.

And we are seeing screen burn already?!@? how is that possible? I thought LCD's dont get screen burn.

Anyways, we use VGA + PC + Powerpoint to display information.

this is what the information shows.

Software Version 5110_1.1.0
Build - ON: 2007 April 13

I went to westinghouse website and put serial number: 5120J72300219A

and it does not recognize it as a valid serial number.

I need some advice. So would new firmware help with scren burn?
post #5625 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

We purchased a TX-47F430S just about 2 months ago.

And we are seeing screen burn already?!@? how is that possible? I thought LCD's dont get screen burn.

Anyways, we use VGA + PC + Powerpoint to display information.

this is what the information shows.

Software Version 5110_1.1.0
Build - ON: 2007 April 13

I went to westinghouse website and put serial number: 5120J72300219A

and it does not recognize it as a valid serial number.

I need some advice. So would new firmware help with scren burn?

Some have reported that the "screen burn"/ghosting gets better with firmware but no one can say for certain. I would say if you can live with it and it doesn't make the TV unusable for you then don't change the firmware. If it is something you can't live with or stand to have then go up a few posts I did post the last stable firmware for the 47" and you can download it without your serial number.

Be sure to follow all directions if you download the firmware and it may take a few tries until you find a usb drive that works right with the TV.
post #5626 of 6156
I followed the instructions put the firmware on USB Stick.

Unplugged the TV, and put USB in. Plugged TV Back in.

Hit Power Button nothing.

the power light stayed in Amber mode.

I unplugged TV, Removed USB Stick.

Plugged TV back in.

Still nothing.

Now what? TV is pooched?
post #5627 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

I followed the instructions put the firmware on USB Stick.

Unplugged the TV, and put USB in. Plugged TV Back in.

Hit Power Button nothing.

the power light stayed in Amber mode.

I unplugged TV, Removed USB Stick.

Plugged TV back in.

Still nothing.

Now what? TV is pooched?

Did you format the USB stick FAT32 before putting anything on it?

Did you unzip the firmware files to your computer first then put them on the USB?

Make sure you remove your USB drive via the OS properly too.

If you did all of that and there was nothing else on the USB other than the firmware then it should work as long as the USB drive plays well with the TV which some do not. If you have some other USB drive to try then try that too. If the Amber light has always come on and nothing else happened ie blinking Amber light then the TV should be fine if it went to blinking and then stopped and never showed a Blue light then it could've been bricked.

Try unplugging the TV for a couple hours if that doesn't work then try 24+ hours if nothing still then the only thing that could save it is getting a good firmware flash or replacing the board that holds the firmware in the TV with a different one.
post #5628 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Carsfanatic View Post

Did you format the USB stick FAT32 before putting anything on it?

Did you unzip the firmware files to your computer first then put them on the USB?

Make sure you remove your USB drive via the OS properly too.

If you did all of that and there was nothing else on the USB other than the firmware then it should work as long as the USB drive plays well with the TV which some do not. If you have some other USB drive to try then try that too. If the Amber light has always come on and nothing else happened ie blinking Amber light then the TV should be fine if it went to blinking and then stopped and never showed a Blue light then it could've been bricked.

Try unplugging the TV for a couple hours if that doesn't work then try 24+ hours if nothing still then the only thing that could save it is getting a good firmware flash or replacing the board that holds the firmware in the TV with a different one.

Yes I followed the instructions 100%.

I plugged in the USB and plugged the TV back. GOt an Amber light and thats it.

So I thought ok USB not working. So I unplugged the TV removed USB and plugged the TV Back and again only amber and it wont turn on.

According the instructions the TV should have powered on and I should have seen the update taking place on screen.

I got none of that, and no flashing amber light nothing.

If I plug the TV back in, I get a quick Blue Light and than right into amber.
post #5629 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by dizzie View Post

These damn machines give us too many problems!

Hi, teeger. Got the pm. On the previous issue with scaling the picture, the only thing I can think of, which is somewhat of a poor fix, is to use component vid cables to get better aspect ratio options on the player and/ or the TV.

On the latest issue of studder - did you try going into the TV menu and selecting or deselecting "deinterlace" in the "calibrate" area of "video" in the menu? Or, perhaps this would be solved with the old component vid cables as well...

Good luck and may the force be with you!

Thanks Dizzie for the great suggestion for selecting "deinterlace" ... I thought this might be what would work ... but damn ... I still get the "flicker / jump" in the display at 1080i. I'd love to get the display to "settle" without having to abandon HDMI. I've heard some say that the 142 and 162 firmware has issues -- but do you think it's worth updating from my current 130? I really appreciate your help and the good suggestion. I've been living with the scaling issue long enough now that it's not too important compared to 1080i looking like the image has been subjected to a very small earth tremor.

Ian
post #5630 of 6156
Is there any button combinations I can press while turning on to reset this thing?
post #5631 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

Yes I followed the instructions 100%.

I plugged in the USB and plugged the TV back. GOt an Amber light and thats it.

So I thought ok USB not working. So I unplugged the TV removed USB and plugged the TV Back and again only amber and it wont turn on.

According the instructions the TV should have powered on and I should have seen the update taking place on screen.

I got none of that, and no flashing amber light nothing.

If I plug the TV back in, I get a quick Blue Light and than right into amber.

Ya the instructions where wrong about the update showing on the screen. The only way you know the update is taking place is by the amber light and then some blinking amber followed by solid blue light when it is done. It can take up to 10 minutes for the update usually around 3-5 minutes though.

I have tried two USB drives that did not work so that is something to definitely try is a different one. Other than another drive and trying over and over again if it will not ever update all you can do is replace a board inside the TV to get it to work.
post #5632 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carsfanatic View Post

I have tried two USB drives that did not work so that is something to definitely try is a different one. Other than another drive and trying over and over again if it will not ever update all you can do is replace a board inside the TV to get it to work.

So if its not coming on I should try different USB Sticks?

The TV is no more than 2-3 months old. It should be covered by warranty.
post #5633 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carsfanatic View Post

Ya the instructions where wrong about the update showing on the screen.

Then someone should update those instructions or not refer to them, otherwise people might brick their TV's which looks like what I did.

I didnt notice the amber light blinking on my TV, so who knows what went wrong.
post #5634 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

So if its not coming on I should try different USB Sticks?

The TV is no more than 2-3 months old. It should be covered by warranty.

I would try different USB drives/sticks first see if you can fix it but, don't take too long if it is only a few months old I would work on getting a replacement or if you have no other choice get the current one fixed. Though I have had good luck with mine many others have not. I would go with a new/different TV before I bought the same one.
post #5635 of 6156
Ok at this point it looks like I'm SOL. Warranty is 10 days past the 60 day warranty. Westinghouse wont help.

So either I take to repair shop or buy new board?

Where can I get a new board from?
post #5636 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

Ok at this point it looks like I'm SOL. Warranty is 10 days past the 60 day warranty. Westinghouse wont help.

So either I take to repair shop or buy new board?

Where can I get a new board from?

Usually ebay is the best source for a board you can buy a DOA TV or just the board. If you search this thread you should be able to find info on what exact board and possible a part number for it.
post #5637 of 6156
There might be some hope?

Ok I took the TV off the wall and have it on a table so I can work on it easier.

I got a bunch of different memory usb sticks. So I have this 4GB kingston one.

Ok I formatted the USB Stick with Fat32.

I copied the update_lacd1080cx.tgz & safe-kernel.img1 both onto the stick.

Plugged into USB Port and Plugged the power into the TV>

Initially there is a lot of activity on the usb stick.

Then the activity stops and the light on the USB Stick blinks every 5-10 seconds.

So it looks like its not totally pooched.

Any suggestions, of something else to try?
post #5638 of 6156
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

There might be some hope?

Ok I took the TV off the wall and have it on a table so I can work on it easier.

I got a bunch of different memory usb sticks. So I have this 4GB kingston one.

Ok I formatted the USB Stick with Fat32.

I copied the update_lacd1080cx.tgz & safe-kernel.img1 both onto the stick.

Plugged into USB Port and Plugged the power into the TV>

Initially there is a lot of activity on the usb stick.

Then the activity stops and the light on the USB Stick blinks every 5-10 seconds.

So it looks like its not totally pooched.

Any suggestions, of something else to try?

Guessing you already tried every usb sticks you said you had from the "bunch"? Other than trying all of them not much else.

Leave it unplugged ie no power at all for 24+ hours then see if it comes back to life if not then try the firmware update again.
post #5639 of 6156
Does anyone have the original 1.0 firmware?

Like I said before my serial number does not come up as a valid number on the site so I cant even download a firmware.
post #5640 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Analog-X64 View Post

Does anyone have the original 1.0 firmware?

Like I said before my serial number does not come up as a valid number on the site so I cant even download a firmware.

You can't "downgrade" to a 1.0.0. I think you can to a 1.2.0 but don't know if that was ever posted here. The older sets required that if you had 1.0.0 or 1.1.0 that you put 1.2.0 before changing it to anything higher than. That of course changed with newer sets/firmware but can't tell when they made that change for sure.
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