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post #5971 of 6156
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Originally Posted by bairdgbaird View Post

Ekztal's 1.4.0 just unbricked my 42F430S. As others have mentioned, the TV was finicky about reading thumb drives.

I tried the SusanII_v1.3.0 file and the Ekztal's 1.4.0 using three different drives before having success with Ekztal's 1.4.0 on a Lexar 4GB drive.

However, the lighting pattern others reported never happened. The light on the front remained amber -- never blinked or turned purple -- before turning blue.

I actually thought it had, yet again, not worked.

After I plugged in the winning combination of Ekztal's 1.4.0 / Lexar 4GB, the drive's light lit for just a moment, then turned off, lit again for a second, then turned off. I suspected that meant that, for whatever reason, no data was being transferred. I left it going while returning to my computer to look for other options. When I returned 20 minutes later, the blue light was on. I then unplugged the TV. The blue light turned amber, then went out. I unplugged the drive from the service port, then turned it on.

My 42F430S has had a few problems over the last few years. Each time, I unplugged it for a minute, then it turned back on.

Last night, it just shut off without warning. Nothing worked to revive it until the steps described here.

Thank you everyone for taking the time to post solutions. You all saved me the more than $1,000 I would have spent getting a new TV.

14 months since Ekztal's firmware fixed my Westinghouse 42F430S, a power outage bricked the LCD again. I started trolling for the firmware and was having no luck. I found it ... and then stumbled on this post, which I'd forgotten I'd made.

Well, the same method as last time worked. The TV is autoscanning channels right now. And once again I can put off buying a new one.
post #5972 of 6156
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Originally Posted by bairdgbaird View Post

14 months since Ekztal's firmware fixed my Westinghouse 42F430S, a power outage bricked the LCD again. I started trolling for the firmware and was having no luck. I found it ... and then stumbled on this post, which I'd forgotten I'd made.

Well, the same method as last time worked. The TV is autoscanning channels right now. And once again I can put off buying a new one.

so awesome! Isn't it great to rescue something that could set you back a few hundred?
post #5973 of 6156
Ok I have a wes model number tx-42f430s i have loaded the custom firmware to it and it gets to a screen thats black and says Wes firmware verison 1.4.0 and sits there nothing happens.I have tried all of the following firmwares.

01_OSD_FW_V1.4.2

42 LPL LX v1.2.0

TX-42F430S - v1.4.0 - editted

Even when I load up the 1.2 firmware it goes the the W logo and sits there nothing happens. If anyone has any info that would be great or where i can buy the board thanks for any help
post #5974 of 6156
Hello,

I've been a long time lurker here but just found this thread!

I have a tx-47f430s that died last summer. It was turning on to the amber light (solid) and wouldn't do anything else. I was debating throwing it away when i found this thread. I used ekztals custom firmware and to my surprise, the light went from amber to purple to blue! Thrilled, I tried to turn it on. I found the edges of the screen flicker for a moment and then all I see is black. I turned it off and back on multiple times with the same results.

Anyone have any suggestions? I'm up for replacing a board in it if it comes to that. Thanks so much, this thread got me further than I ever did on my own !
post #5975 of 6156
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Originally Posted by Swoop12 View Post

Ok I have a wes model number tx-42f430s i have loaded the custom firmware to it and it gets to a screen thats black and says Wes firmware verison 1.4.0 and sits there nothing happens.I have tried all of the following firmwares.

01_OSD_FW_V1.4.2

42 LPL LX v1.2.0

TX-42F430S - v1.4.0 - editted

Even when I load up the 1.2 firmware it goes the the W logo and sits there nothing happens. If anyone has any info that would be great or where i can buy the board thanks for any help

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Originally Posted by Coryj2000 View Post

Hello,

I've been a long time lurker here but just found this thread!

I have a tx-47f430s that died last summer. It was turning on to the amber light (solid) and wouldn't do anything else. I was debating throwing it away when i found this thread. I used ekztals custom firmware and to my surprise, the light went from amber to purple to blue! Thrilled, I tried to turn it on. I found the edges of the screen flicker for a moment and then all I see is black. I turned it off and back on multiple times with the same results.

Anyone have any suggestions? I'm up for replacing a board in it if it comes to that. Thanks so much, this thread got me further than I ever did on my own !

Guys,

So sorry to hear that the custom fw didn't do the trick. Swoop, sounds like you tried them all! It seems like I've seen boards for sale on eBay from time to time. They probably come from units taken apart for parts when the screen or other component went bad. All I can think to do is set up an alert on eBay for when they come available if that is possible. At one point, someone (probably ekztal) posted a repository of various firmwares. Maybe Swoop can comment if he found it. Cory, maybe you could find the original fw that came installed on your unit and try it. It almost sounds like the processors on these things are beginning to fail. I hope mine lasts for a while longer. However, we haven't used it all that heavily over the 4 years or so that we've had it...
post #5976 of 6156
Dizzie,

Thanks for the reply... good to see people are still monitoring this thread, as it is one of the most useful I have ever discovered. I tore apart the whole thing last night (just to make sure I would be capable of replacing a board if I found one) and happened to notice a sticker that read "FW 1.3" on the main board. I will try that official FW tonight. Based on my symptoms, does it sound like it is likely the main board causing problems (brief flicker of the screen and audio then nothing)? I am confident I can replace any of the parts in there, but I'd like to have a good idea I am buying the right thing if I drop $100 on ebay.

Thanks again
post #5977 of 6156
Forgive me for resurrecting a dead thread, but I just obtained a TX-42F430S that is dead. Typical amber only light when power is plugged in. It does go blue for a split second, then amber. Does not display anything on the screen. Does not respond to the remote or buttons.

So, I tried flashing. No response. Only one flash drive even flickers the light when first plugged in. I have tried about 8 different flash drives. I don't really think that is the problem.

I am an electrical engineer, so I am not giving up that easily. I actually have the equipment (even the connector) to get to the serial port. Unfortunately, I got nothing on the serial port besides a couple "Nulls" when first plugged in.

So at this point I am suspecting that the firmware is probably bad. I noticed that there is a flash chip on the board, which likely holds the main firmware, and there is also an eeprom labeled "Boot 1.00" I pulled the eeprom and dumped it. I briefly looked at strings within it and noticed they were kind of discombobulated, but I have nothing to compare it with, so that may be normal. The strings appear to be messages and errors that would be output on the serial port.

I am about to pull the flash off the board and dump that as well. I have logic analyzers, etc... at my disposal, so I am settling in for some fun.

Now, why I am here... as I said, I have no firmware to compare this with. I am hoping someone out there still has a mainboard, working or not for which I can pull the roms and dump them as well. For my end, I will make sure those rom dumps are available so others may be able to fix their units. Of course, I need to make sure that they are correct before I do.

So, can anyone help me out? I can pay shipping or whatever reasonable arrangements we can make.
post #5978 of 6156
I have a working TV has worked fine since the day I got it I might have one of the old firmwares that I downloaded originally from Westinghouse on an old HDD but nothing else.
post #5979 of 6156
Thanks carsfanatic. I suppose I should have been more clear. I don't have the boot ROM image to compare to. I have a suspicion that it is slightly corrupted. In order for the board to talk to the USB port port or serial port, it needs some initial boot code. Usually it runs through this, checks for updates, commands, etc... and if nothing, it transfers to the main firmware and everything runs as normal. This boot rom is the most important code in the entire unit. If it gets corrupted, all hope is lost to communicate in any other way to restore it. All that can be done is to pull it and reflash it manually using an eeprom programmer.

So, what I am hoping for is twofold: That with a rom to compare it to, I can determine if it is corrupted and also to preserve a copy of this rom image in case it is ever needed by anyone else. I would just buy a healthy board and do it that way, but I can't even find one of those. So, I was hoping some one might still have one. There were many people in this thread that swapped out their boards.
post #5980 of 6156
Your best bet to find a board is to use ebay and then have it send you a notification when what your looking for gets a posting.

This forum has been a great resource since it is back in the same hands it was before maybe it can return to how great it was before.
post #5981 of 6156
@retroplayer: My tv was stuck in sleep mode and in the end, I just used the custom firmware posted in this thread somewhere, which resurrected my tv, have you tried doing that?
post #5982 of 6156
Yes. I have tried that.
post #5983 of 6156
Where can I get a copy of the FW file from Ekztal. I moved my TV and I believe it is stuck in sleep mode. Thanks in advance.
post #5984 of 6156
page 192
post #5985 of 6156
Hello,

I have a TX-42F430S TV I bought in October of 2007. It has no FW update so I'm on original 5112_1.1.0.

I am trying to connect my Dell Dimension 4600. Yes its prehistoric, but that's not the point. My connection is VGA and its connecting to my NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200. and I'm trying to use the PC input. I can see the Dell BIOS Bootup and WIndows XP splash screen just fine, but when it goes to load the user name menu for WIndows XP login, I lose the connection and get a "No Input Signal" screen.

Weird thing is, I can boot up my PC in Safe Mode and everything works fine.

I updated the graphics card with the latest driver update available. I tried updating the FW on my TV but it's not working. I'm using a Kingston DataTraveler 4GB. Tried an 8GB of same brand/model too. Can't get it to go past an orange LED. I can make changes to the resolution/display in safe mode but so far nothing has made it work in anything but safe mode.

No clue what the problem is here. Sorry I can't be more descriptive. Is there anyone that can help? I've done a few hours or research and I'm still stuck at square one.

Thank you
post #5986 of 6156
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Originally Posted by old english D View Post

Hello,
I have a TX-42F430S TV I bought in October of 2007. It has no FW update so I'm on original 5112_1.1.0.
I am trying to connect my Dell Dimension 4600. Yes its prehistoric, but that's not the point. My connection is VGA and its connecting to my NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200. and I'm trying to use the PC input. I can see the Dell BIOS Bootup and WIndows XP splash screen just fine, but when it goes to load the user name menu for WIndows XP login, I lose the connection and get a "No Input Signal" screen.
Weird thing is, I can boot up my PC in Safe Mode and everything works fine.
I updated the graphics card with the latest driver update available. I tried updating the FW on my TV but it's not working. I'm using a Kingston DataTraveler 4GB. Tried an 8GB of same brand/model too. Can't get it to go past an orange LED. I can make changes to the resolution/display in safe mode but so far nothing has made it work in anything but safe mode.
No clue what the problem is here. Sorry I can't be more descriptive. Is there anyone that can help? I've done a few hours or research and I'm still stuck at square one.
Thank you

I disabled the nVidia video card driver in safe mode, and this made the TV detect the PC on a regular start up.

I'm wondering if a TV FW update would allow the NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 to work. Any opinions?
post #5987 of 6156

I've tried all of these firmware updates on a newly-formatted FAT32 flash drive. None of them have worked; I'm still on 1.1.0.
post #5988 of 6156
You can try lowering the screen resolution on the video card.
post #5989 of 6156
Thank you for the edited firm ware. After going over the electronic components and circuits several times over the last four weeks, I realized the circuitry itself seemed to be working correctly but was missing the signal to turn it on.
I left flashing the firm ware as a last resort and as it turns out, that is what was needed to get the television back on line.

One important thing that many people may be missing when they are trying to flash their Westy is that they must do more than unzip the files and copy them to the thumb drive. They must uncompress the .tgz file using a free program such as 7-Zip. After uncompressing the new firm ware file to the root directory of the flash drive (example: F:\ ), one will end up with numerous individual files and a folder.

I followed the instructions found on several pages in this forum, beginning with page 192, and like the experience of another poster, it appeared that the flash process did not work. Using a Cruzer 4GB thumb drive that I formatted to Fat32, I copied the two files from the unzipped original file that I downloaded using the link in this forum. I then used 7-Zip to uncompress the .tgz file, telling the program to place the uncompressed files in the root directory of the thumb drive.

After unplugging the power cord from the television and waiting until the amber light in front went off, I plugged the thumb drive into the service port on the television and plugged in the power cord. I waited until the led on the thumb drive turned off and then pressed the power button on the side of the television and held it until the thumb drive light turned on. This might have been about 2 seconds and no more than 3 seconds. I watched the amber light on the front of the television for about five minutes and figured this attempt was another failure and I would try it again in the morning. As I walked past the television, I pressed the power button again and held it in for four or five seconds - releasing it when the light on the thumb drive turned on. That light blinked once or twice and went off. After watching the front amber light remain amber for another 30 seconds, I went to bed. When I got up this morning, the light on front of the television was still amber. I unplugged the power cord, unplugged the thumb drive, and after the amber light went out I plugged the power cord back in.
After about five seconds the {W} logo appeared on the screen, the front light turned to blue, and then back to amber when the (W) turned off. I did not have any signal cables connected to the television at this point. I connected the component video and audio cables from my cable box to the television and turned on the cable box and then pressed the power button on my television remote control.
The screen lit up with the video from the cable box and the audio was at about half level. I tried turning down the audio but it was unresponsive. I turned off the television and cable box using the remote control. I unplugged the power cord from the television and plugged it back in after the amber light on the front turned off. I pressed the power button on my remote to turn on the television and then the cable box and after the (W) appeared, the screen transitioned to the video from the cable box. This time the audio level was adjustable from both the remote control and the buttons on the side of the television.

I hope this helps some other people who are preparing to dispose of their Westinghouse television. Feel free to leave questions for me here and I will provide whatever help I can from my limited experiences.

I learned a lot through the process of analyzing my television's circuitry and components. I worked on conventional televisions during my high school and college years. These LCD sets are not televisions as much as they are a sophisticated monitor with a built in television tuner and input switching system.

Good luck.

Tim///
post #5990 of 6156
I'm going crazy here. I've tried EVERY SINGLE method. still nothing. Cruzer 8gb flash drive...downloaded from Exztel's link. Used 7-zip to open and install onto the flash drive. Unplugged my TX-42F430S and plugged in the flash drive. Plugged the tv in and the flash drive began to light up...flashing. At no point did the amber light ever change colors. I let it sit for a long time, then uplugged it....still won't turn on. Unplugged it, plugged in the drive again....plugged it in, let the flash drive light up....still nothing. Pressed the power button for 10 seconds. Nothing. Nothing I do has any effect. It will NOT turn on. Any help????
post #5991 of 6156
Jeremy:

I am trying to pull this from memory. I too was frustrated just as you are.

Do this first:
1) Determine if the main board is receiving power and its power-on-self-test (POST) is functioning. Position the TV so that you can look inside the back of it and can observe the main board, which is centered in the set. If the back cover is still in place, do not remove it.
2) Unplug the TV, wait until the amber light on the front of the TV turns off, then plug in the TV, don't touch the power button, and see if the two green LEDs glow when you apply power. One LED is located near the top of the main board and one is at the bottom center of the same board. I am not sure if you can see both LEDs with the back cover and internal mounting plate in place. I know you for sure that you can see at least one of them.
3) Within approximately 10 seconds after applying power, the upper LED will turn off and the lower LED will remain lit. If this does not occur, there may be a hardware/circuitry issue occurring that must be corrected first. I say this based only on the experience gained from working on my TV and some things gained from reading through the forums.
4) If the top LED turned off and the lower LED remained lit and if the amber light on the front of the TV is on, press the power button on the TV for one second and release it. The top LED should turn ON. If it is now on, proceed to the next steps.
5) Unplug the TV again, wait 10 seconds after the amber light on the front of the set turns off, plug in your thumb drive (Note on thumb drive: I made sure my drive was freshly formatted to FAT32, that the file was unpacked with 7-Zip and the contents are in the root directory, and that there are no other files on the drive. I can check my thumb drive later if you want to know a list of the files that should be present), and then plug in the TV. After the thumb drive flashes several times, wait about a minute and then press and hold the power button on the TV for 5 seconds and release it. The drive will flash again and I think it turned off again.
6) Observe the light on the front of the TV for five minutes. If it remains amber the whole time, press the power button on the TV again and hold it until the thumb drive lights up and immediately release the button.
7) Leave the television alone for 8 to 10 hours.
8) Remove the power cord from the TV.
9) Unplug the thumb drive from the TV.
10) Plug in the TV again and wait one minute. If the set does not turn on and show the (W) logo, press and hold the power button on the TV for five seconds and release it. Don't hold it in for more than 5 seconds.
11) If the process was the same as mine, the set will turn on, the light in front will be blue, and it will display the (W) logo for about 5 to 10 seconds. After that it may turn off if there is nothing connected to the TV inputs. If you want to mirror my experience, don't have anything connected to the TV inputs until after it powers on.
12) If the light in front remains blue, turn off the TV using the power button on the TV and connect a device to the inputs that you are sure is providing a signal. I connected my cable box to the component #1 input on the TV because that is what I always use. If the light in front was amber, do the same thing.
13) After connecting my device and powering up the set again, my TV detected the signal and displayed it on the screen. At this point none of the functions on my remote control worked except the power button. I powered off the TV, unplugged it until the amber light on the front turned off, plugged it back in, and pressed the power button on the remote. The (W) logo appeared on the screen and then switched immediately to the show playing on my cable box.

Let me know how you make out.

Tim///
post #5992 of 6156
Hi there, Did everything right, I believe. Update took, everything works, except for the spdif out, no audio output of any kind. HDMI inputs are excepting digital audio from cable box and ps3, no out put to external receiver when switched to MIX or EXTERNAL in AUDIO>SPEAKERs.
Any Ideas? Fixed the TV by BRICKING my receiver!
post #5993 of 6156
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Originally Posted by brnz2000 View Post

Hi there, Did everything right, I believe. Update took, everything works, except for the spdif out, no audio output of any kind. HDMI inputs are excepting digital audio from cable box and ps3, no out put to external receiver when switched to MIX or EXTERNAL in AUDIO>SPEAKERs.
Any Ideas? Fixed the TV by BRICKING my receiver!

I don't know if it is related but I don't think that I get anything from the spdif when using hdmi or any input except if using the coax if you use coax and get either digital cable or OTA stations that broadcast in 5.1 then that is the only way you will get actual surround sound from the spdif. Most stations even OTA and even cable if they are not digital only broadcast in stereo. I think I remember one of the firmwares that made it so the TV gave sound from HDMI inputs through spdif but again it was only stereo so really sort of useless. Your best bet is to use whatever input you have and go through the receiver first via hdmi or spdif and then to the TV from the receiver. I have been doing that since I owned the TV and have had no HDMI issues I think because of that.
post #5994 of 6156
I left out a "key" piece of info, by accident, maybe. Im REALLY DUTCH! My receiver is older than the house I currently live in. It has 1 optical (toslink/spdif) input and 2!!! channels of phono jacks! And it is made by a leading manufacturer in incandescent light bulbs! ouch
Any ways, it has never failed me. And , for the most part, all of my HDMI ports passed through SPDIF content straight through to the receiver. Until this morning, apres update.
My PS3 has always had the crappy "hand shaking" issue, and my new Mac book pro will see hdmi video, but no audio at all. So hence i needed to start adding more optical inputs. And when you only have one hole, things plug up fast.
My Rogers boxes and DVD players have grabbed on immediately with out any issues. Passing full surround information to my almost Steam Punk Receiver.
Like I stated earlier, all of my HDMI ports passed audio before the update. Now, they will all see for the most part ( mac book pro not included ) the digital info, but will not pass any of it on to the SPDIF optical output.
Some one lent me a 55" 240hz Toshiba with all of the bells and whistles.....it look horrid! I wanted to head butt it with both my feet! The TX looks sooooo much better!
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #5995 of 6156
brnz2000:

If you haven't already done so, try going into your menu on the tv and cycle on and off each audio option. I seem to recall there was an issue with audio after flashing the firm ware until each option was turned off and on or on and off.
I think my SPDIF going to a low-end computer speaker system is working after unbricking my set.

Also, if you had the back cover off of the television, make sure all the cables are still plugged in and seated securely to the main board.

Tim///
post #5996 of 6156
brnz2000:

If you haven't already done so, try going into your menu on the tv and cycle on and off each audio option. I seem to recall there was an issue with audio after flashing the firm ware until each option was turned off and on or on and off.
I think my SPDIF going to a low-end computer speaker system is working after unbricking my set.

Also, if you had the back cover off of the television, make sure all the cables are still plugged in and seated securely to the main board.

Tim///
post #5997 of 6156
brnz2000:

If you haven't already done so, try going into your menu on the tv and cycle on and off each audio option. I seem to recall there was an issue with audio after flashing the firm ware until each option was turned off and on or on and off.
I think my SPDIF going to a low-end computer speaker system is working after unbricking my set.

Also, if you had the back cover off of the television, make sure all the cables are still plugged in and seated securely to the main board.

Tim///
post #5998 of 6156
Forum Moderator: Please delete my duplicate posts. Thanks.
Tim///
post #5999 of 6156
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Originally Posted by brnz2000 View Post

Hi there, Did everything right, I believe. Update took, everything works, except for the spdif out, no audio output of any kind. HDMI inputs are excepting digital audio from cable box and ps3, no out put to external receiver when switched to MIX or EXTERNAL in AUDIO>SPEAKERs.
Any Ideas? Fixed the TV by BRICKING my receiver!

Apparently due to HDCP (over) regulations, the they are not allowed to forward unscripted audio from the HDMI ports back out the SPDIF port. You can thank the Federal Government for this.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/851860/official-westinghouse-tx-series-tx-42f430s-tx-47f430s-owners-thread/3120#post_11582573
post #6000 of 6156
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Originally Posted by mbrittb00 View Post

Apparently due to HDCP (over) regulations, the they are not allowed to forward unscripted audio from the HDMI ports back out the SPDIF port. You can thank the Federal Government for this.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/851860/official-westinghouse-tx-series-tx-42f430s-tx-47f430s-owners-thread/3120#post_11582573

It's my understanding that this is due to the industry licensing and standards agreement and the Federal government is not involved. I might be misinformed, of course :-)
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