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post #1 of 44
5/28/07 at 9:38am
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I was in the local Moviestop picking up POTC 1 and 2 on Blu Ray. The sales person begins to tell me that she has been selling POTC like hot cakes last week. She said that she is selling a lot of Blu Rays in the past couple of most...Way more than HD DVD...

Then she begins to tell me that she cant remember which one but either Paramount our Warner has recently decided that it will only do Blu Ray in the future. I have never heard of this....Anyone else hear this?

For what it worth, I thought HD DVD sales would spike this month with the Matrix and the HD DVD player dropping to 299.00 at most retailers but she said she has not noticed it....

Thx,
Claude

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post #2 of 44
5/28/07 at 9:41am
No truth at all, IMO. I was told last week that NCAA Football wasnt coming out for the PS3 by a salesman at Best Buy because "the ps3 doesnt have enough people for EA to make money".....he was dead serious. The people that work on the floor at media stores generally know as much about electronics and what theyre selling as cafeteria workers in scrubs at hospitals know about brain surgery.
post #3 of 44
5/28/07 at 9:58am
I would find it plausible that WB or Paramount would go BLu-Ray only in 12-18 months, but there's no way they'd back off from HD-DVD now. Surely Sony offered them a huge stipend to be Blu-Ray exclusive, and they rejected that in favor of releasing on both formats.

No reason to change strategy unless one format tanks.
post #4 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:07am
Well at the risk of a rash of rabid HD DVD fanboys and fangirls attacking me for my comments, I wouldn't be surprised... I initially bought in to hi-def last year as a fanatical HD DVD supporter. I had no love for Sony and company who I often referred to as Sony and their "henchmen." But during my daily travels, I could not ignore what I was seeing and hearing. I happen to believe that one format is emerging as the predominate hi-def format. Unless all the salespeople that I have gotten to know in various stores are liars or have been brainwashed by the BDA (and I don't buy that B.S. for a minute), without exception, they state that there isn't even a contest.
post #5 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by Bunga99 View Post

I was in the local Moviestop picking up POTC 1 and 2 on Blu Ray. The sales person begins to tell me that she has been selling POTC like hot cakes last week. She said that she is selling a lot of Blu Rays in the past couple of most...Way more than HD DVD...

Then she begins to tell me that she cant remember which one but either Paramount our Warner has recently decided that it will only do Blu Ray in the future. I have never heard of this....Anyone else hear this?

For what it worth, I thought HD DVD sales would spike this month with the Matrix and the HD DVD player dropping to 299.00 at most retailers but she said she has not noticed it....

Thx,
Claude

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. A Gamestop employee once told me the ps3 was a game machine.
post #6 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:17am
If only amazon sales translated well to sales across the country this would be a great point. However as we have seen, from last week The Fountain on BD was the top selling disc, yet it barely cracked top 100 on Amazon while PE HDDVD was in the top 8 all week. The same went for NaTM and Deja Vu which sold considerably less on Amazon.com yet are still selling very well as far as total software country wide goes.

Amazon sales represent a very small number, especially when they merely spike for a few days or weeks, Amazon figures are nothing more than hollow empty bragging rights on both sides as they dont correlate well to actual sales and no one even knows for sure how many discs are moved in relationship to sales rank.
post #7 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:38am
And the rumour mill churns once again...

Did you also know that all HD-DVD players will spontaneously combust on July 1? It's true... my cat told me.
post #8 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:40am
The sad truth is that retail sales people like to read a lot of rumors on the internet and they unfortunately like to spread that as fact to customers. I've seen it way to many times. Don't believe anything that a retail employee says.
post #9 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:41am
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Originally Posted by heavyharmonies View Post

And the rumour mill churns once again...

Did you also know that all HD-DVD players will spontaneously combust on July 1? It's true... my cat told me.

post #10 of 44
5/28/07 at 10:56am
I don't expect to see any studio support changes until at least CES 2008. That said, IMO it's far more likely for Paramount to go BD only then it is for Warner to. Warner's been fairly outspoken about supporting both formats and after all, is the creator of TotalHD.
post #11 of 44
5/28/07 at 11:10am
Personally, I can't see how HD-DVD will survive for another 9-12 months.

When the Warner coupons were around, I went ahead and pre-ordered the Ultimate Matrix Trilogy. I figured I might as well go for it as long as I was planning to buy an HD-DVD player anyway. However, all my favorite titles were coming out on Blu-ray, and HD-DVD's selection was looking increasingly slim, save for the few Universal titles. And with Warner and Paramount coming out with all of their releases on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray, I had little to no incentive to buy an HD-DVD player. I ended up cancelling my Matrix pre-order.

I really didn't see any merit in buying an HD-DVD player just to enjoy a $70 trilogy that will eventually come out on Blu-ray anyway, probably near the end of the year (as reported by Hidefdigest).

I think this format war has gotten a tad bit too political. Because if some studios will play favorites every once in a while, this thing will drag on until digital downloads will take over, and neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray will gain any marketshare.

For the sake of HD lovers and regular consumers alike, I hope this thing ends...and ends soon.
post #12 of 44
5/28/07 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by heavyharmonies View Post

And the rumour mill churns once again...

Did you also know that all HD-DVD players will spontaneously combust on July 1? It's true... my cat told me.

What!! It's going to spontaneously combust. I was told they we're all going to turn into Bluray Players!
post #13 of 44
5/28/07 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by Dennis M View Post

What!! It's going to spontaneously combust. I was told they we're all going to turn into Bluray Players!

Same thing isn't it?
post #14 of 44
5/28/07 at 11:57am
A Guy at Burger King
Thinks VHS is the Best
post #15 of 44
5/28/07 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Steverhcp02 View Post

The people that work on the floor at media stores generally know as much about electronics and what theyre selling as cafeteria workers in scrubs at hospitals know about brain surgery.

HEY!
post #16 of 44
5/28/07 at 12:17pm
It's probably true that Pirates was selling like hotcakes. And that salesperson probably would know that too.

As for the other bit...they wouldn't know, even if it was true. I wouldn't expect any changes in allegiance in 2007 from any studio honestly.
post #17 of 44
5/28/07 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by tlreddragon View Post

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. A Gamestop employee once told me the ps3 was a game machine.

I literally LOL'ed at this. Very funny man.
post #18 of 44
5/28/07 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by Bunga99 View Post

I was in the local Moviestop picking up POTC 1 and 2 on Blu Ray. The sales person begins to tell me that she has been selling POTC like hot cakes last week. She said that she is selling a lot of Blu Rays in the past couple of most...Way more than HD DVD...

Then she begins to tell me that she cant remember which one but either Paramount our Warner has recently decided that it will only do Blu Ray in the future. I have never heard of this....Anyone else hear this?

For what it worth, I thought HD DVD sales would spike this month with the Matrix and the HD DVD player dropping to 299.00 at most retailers but she said she has not noticed it....

Thx,
Claude


We gotta stop with the anecdotal evidence unless your source if the president of universal or something
post #19 of 44
5/28/07 at 1:46pm
I read a report somewhere(?) last week that Amazon accounts for about 11% of all the HD format sales volume nationally.

E
post #20 of 44
5/28/07 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by tlreddragon View Post

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. A Gamestop employee once told me the ps3 was a game machine.

OUCH!
post #21 of 44
5/28/07 at 2:34pm
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Originally Posted by hassoon View Post

Personally, I can't see how HD-DVD will survive for another 9-12 months.

When the Warner coupons were around, I went ahead and pre-ordered the Ultimate Matrix Trilogy. I figured I might as well go for it as long as I was planning to buy an HD-DVD player anyway. However, all my favorite titles were coming out on Blu-ray, and HD-DVD's selection was looking increasingly slim, save for the few Universal titles. And with Warner and Paramount coming out with all of their releases on both HD-DVD and Blu-ray, I had little to no incentive to buy an HD-DVD player. I ended up cancelling my Matrix pre-order.

I really didn't see any merit in buying an HD-DVD player just to enjoy a $70 trilogy that will eventually come out on Blu-ray anyway, probably near the end of the year (as reported by Hidefdigest).

I think this format war has gotten a tad bit too political. Because if some studios will play favorites every once in a while, this thing will drag on until digital downloads will take over, and neither HD-DVD nor Blu-ray will gain any marketshare.

For the sake of HD lovers and regular consumers alike, I hope this thing ends...and ends soon.


I'll take that bet! In fact, I'd be willing to bet that at the same time next year, avs folks will still be saying when Pirates 4 is released on Blu-Ray, that'll be the end of HD DVD.

I personally don't care anymore, I've noticed that during this war, people have lost track of what matters most, high quality picture, audio and interactivity. It's unfortunate that most people have picked a side and nothing that either side does is wrong to them.

I remember someone in this forum complained about the picture quality of a Blu-Ray release, and another member responded that complaining about it isn't good for Blu-Ray during this warthat's just insane.

In the end, I'll probably buy a dual player, because simply put, I love movies and will not be held hostage by this ridiculously greedy war between these two formats.
post #22 of 44
5/28/07 at 2:58pm
Pirates 1 and 2 did sell pretty well last week. They were the first BD titles I was really eager to buy. CC and WM were almost out by Thursday, but BB had plenty left, even with the $10 off. They probably received several dozen per store, however.
post #23 of 44
5/28/07 at 2:58pm
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Originally Posted by eddy_winds View Post

A Guy at Burger King
Thinks VHS is the Best

It is, isnt it???
post #24 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:01pm
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Originally Posted by tlreddragon View Post

I wouldn't put too much stock in that. A Gamestop employee once told me the ps3 was a game machine.

It is now; the POTC discs have games.
post #25 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:05pm
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Originally Posted by ChrisPC View Post

It is now; the POTC discs have games.

Why would they bother with that?? Don't they know BD owners only care about the movie?
post #26 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:06pm
Actually most retailers are decreasing shelf space for HDDVD because it's not selling well. My local Fry's went from 50/50 in the beginning to 70/30 Blu-ray to 90/10 Blu-ray shelf space. Things aren't looking good for HDDVD in the B&M retail space where the majority of people shop. Extinction of HDDVD is eminent.
post #27 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:23pm
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

Actually most retailers are decreasing shelf space for HDDVD because it's not selling well. My local Fry's went from 50/50 in the beginning to 70/30 Blu-ray to 90/10 Blu-ray shelf space. Things aren't looking good for HDDVD in the B&M retail space where the majority of people shop. Extinction of HDDVD is eminent.

Do I get any ice cream with that piece of FUD pie??
post #28 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:26pm
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

Extinction of HDDVD is eminent.

I guess it depends on what your definition of "eminent" is. If you mean in the next 5 to 10 years, you may be right, but if you mean within the next 2 years you are definitely wrong. The PS3 is the only reason Blu-ray is alive today. Since this is a Blu-ray forum I will admit that the PS3 is a really good bargain even at $600 for everything that it does. The problem for Blu-ray is that Pioneer, Panasonic, and Samsung are having to compete with the PS3 as well as HD DVD. It's obvious that the BD movies sales lead is directly related to the launch of the PS3. Now that the PS3 isn't selling very well, and the fact that there are inexpensive HD DVD players available, it is quite likely that HD DVD movies sales will gain ground and eventually pass Blu-ray sales. Both formats are going to be around for several years no matter how much wishful thinking there is on either side.
post #29 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

Actually most retailers are decreasing shelf space for HDDVD because it's not selling well. My local Fry's went from 50/50 in the beginning to 70/30 Blu-ray to 90/10 Blu-ray shelf space. Things aren't looking good for HDDVD in the B&M retail space where the majority of people shop. Extinction of HDDVD is eminent.

Can you provide me with the links that suggest "most" retailers are decreasing shelf space for HD DVD? I keep forgetting, if your local Fry's is doing it, then every retailer in the US must be as well. Sorry.
post #30 of 44
5/28/07 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by TwinTurboZX View Post

Actually most retailers are decreasing shelf space for HDDVD because it's not selling well. My local Fry's went from 50/50 in the beginning to 70/30 Blu-ray to 90/10 Blu-ray shelf space. Things aren't looking good for HDDVD in the B&M retail space where the majority of people shop. Extinction of HDDVD is eminent.

and ive seen hd-dvd with twice the space at some place here.

extinction of blu ray is already begon no fox release schedule 2 disney movies coming.

that doesnt sound like a strong format to me.

and how many titles are coming to hd-dvd within the next 3 months like 70? and blu ray like what 5?

ps you should change your sig

blu ray for 2x the prices gives you less content ( no release schedule for fox and 2 titles from disney) and uses 25gig disc's most of the time.

i own both formats i have no reason to want one to die.

but things are starting to look bad for bd.

i think depending how well potc sells is what is gonna keep disney on board with bd exclusively.
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