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post #61 of 113
apple is coming out with a multitouch device pretty soon. in the iphone

i think the applications to this tech. will just be fun to use and it will be interesting to see what else comes out, like tablet pcs or whatnot
post #62 of 113
watching that made me feel. . . primitive.
post #63 of 113
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Originally Posted by dub273 View Post

Au contraire... that's the single most brilliant thing to come down the pike in a long while. Imagine those things in coffee houses, airports, bars, hotels, lounges ... even schools! ... You won't be able to keep people away from them. There are myriad applications for gaming, art, illustration, socialization... it'll be a great shot in the arm for the company in the short term, and when they're affordable enough to be in people's homes, look out.

indeed, it's fantastic; it's in fact what i've been thinking that things would have to eventually lead to; it's just as intuitive as can be to touch
post #64 of 113
if anyone has read "ender's game" then that tabletop pc is very much what i always envisioned the "desks" in the book to be, except those where laptop-sized and holographic; that would be the next step for something like this, a very large step
post #65 of 113
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Originally Posted by mikepaul View Post

Didn't we see this in "Tron" about 25 years ago?

David Warner sitting at his desk; display part of desk surface?

Fancy it up a bit with better touch controls, but nothing NEW...


we've seen this all over science fiction for a long time; it's nothing new that science fiction preempts real technological applications; when folks show something like this in sci fi, it's because we envision it as being a more agreeable way to do things
post #66 of 113
i'm actually suprised that $10k is as much as this will cost out the door; that price can easily drop to reasonable levels in a few years

i wonder if they'll have wall displays as well as "coffee tables"

there was this scene, again in the book "ender's game" where the family is sitting around the breakfast table and bringing up various news bits and stuff for the day

now all we need is:

-miniturization to make it smaller
-holographics????
- i'd like to see you being able to wave your hand rather than touch the screen itself
post #67 of 113
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Originally Posted by uzziah View Post

we've seen this all over science fiction for a long time; it's nothing new that science fiction preempts real technological applications; when folks show something like this in sci fi, it's because we envision it as being a more agreeable way to do things

Correct.
The trick is figuring out how to do it for *real*. :-)

Just bear in mind that this is light years ahead of the iPhone's touch-rejection multitouch. This is motion and shape recognition; Surface is *vision* based, not a touch panel. Makes a universe of difference.

This tech will be exploding out of 2d into 3D space as soon as the sensors and CPUs grow up.
Big-time news, this.
I can't wait for the XTable to hit the home market in 5 years or so. ;-)
post #68 of 113
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Originally Posted by MisterNJ View Post

My damned sticky fingered nieces and nephew's would have to wash their hands if they want to paint.

i'm pretty sure it'll wash up nicely
post #69 of 113
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Originally Posted by uzziah View Post

we've seen this all over science fiction for a long time; it's nothing new that science fiction preempts real technological applications; when folks show something like this in sci fi, it's because we envision it as being a more agreeable way to do things

Hang on. I'm sitting comfortably in my cube looking over at a display that's aimed at my head, reading about a coffee table I'd have to lean over to read and interact with. I don't consider that a Big Deal to fawn over.

"Large vertical touchscreens one sits in front of? Why, that's so 2005 it's pitiful. Let's make them horizontal tables so people have to hover over them to watch the videos or draw on them. Comfort and ergonomics be damned, this is cool."

If the idea seen in "Tron" was actually GOOD, it would have been implemented in the many years since the movie. Those coffee table Pac-Man games died out, and I expect this will mutate into a more practical at-least-semi vertical design or die off too. There's only so much hovering human beings will put up with...
post #70 of 113
What a dud. All that hype over a touchscreen kiosk for hotels and casinos??!!!!
post #71 of 113
Who says that future iterations of this all have to be flat table top versions?

I can see a model of this based on a drafters table, nicely angled at about 45 degrees. That would take 'hovering' out of the equation.

DeathDealerB
post #72 of 113
as Borat said "very nice how much"
post #73 of 113
after seeing the promo videos, I retract my last comment. MS surface is truly amazing, you would've expected Apple to come out with it not MS.
post #74 of 113
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Originally Posted by mikepaul View Post

Hang on. I'm sitting comfortably in my cube looking over at a display that's aimed at my head, reading about a coffee table I'd have to lean over to read and interact with. I don't consider that a Big Deal to fawn over.

"Large vertical touchscreens one sits in front of? Why, that's so 2005 it's pitiful. Let's make them horizontal tables so people have to hover over them to watch the videos or draw on them. Comfort and ergonomics be damned, this is cool."

If the idea seen in "Tron" was actually GOOD, it would have been implemented in the many years since the movie. Those coffee table Pac-Man games died out, and I expect this will mutate into a more practical at-least-semi vertical design or die off too. There's only so much hovering human beings will put up with...

It probably was not practical to implement until now. Multi-touch screens are starting to emerge from several companies. It seems we just now have the technology to pull it off properly.

MS has alrerad said the see this being used on tables, walls, mirrors etc... They have to start somewhere.

The Pac-Man cocktail games had no real practical use, other then sitting stuff on when you got tired of the game.
post #75 of 113
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Originally Posted by Villanman View Post

How can anyone not see the potential this product has.

Dividing up the restaurant bill was pretty darn cool.


Exactly!

The Commercial potential for this product is huge.

For Home.....I wouldnt mind a table to control all my HT equipment and media center contols built in. Think of the home theater potential of this thing too!
post #76 of 113
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Originally Posted by hatchback View Post

What a dud. All that hype over a touchscreen kiosk for hotels and casinos??!!!!

The hype is because its *not* a touch screen.
Its a whole new computing platform built-around a motion analysis system that uses infrared sensors that can *read*barcodes and patterns and shapes.
It doesn't detect touch--that is indeeed common and limited--it detects movement and intent. Big difference.
And the tables are aimed at hotels, casinos, *and* restaurants.
Sports bars alone will scarf'em up! ;-)
post #77 of 113
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Originally Posted by fjtorres View Post

The hype is because its *not* a touch screen.
Its a whole new computing platform built-around a motion analysis system that uses infrared sensors that can *read*barcodes and patterns and shapes.
It doesn't detect touch--that is indeeed common and limited--it detects movement and intent. Big difference.
And the tables are aimed at hotels, casinos, *and* restaurants.
Sports bars alone will scarf'em up! ;-)

Sports Bars... I can already see some great table games like air hockey
post #78 of 113
Interactive porn?
post #79 of 113
it would redefine how we use computers at home. Be a truely easy to use media center for music, pics, video's etc. You could tie it into any electrical device in your home. It would make technology truly easy to use, no I mean actually EASY as in a monkey could use it. Watch the 18 minute video, it's worth it. see how easy it is to use mp3 players, cell phones, move content to and from completely wireless, no manuals needed!

Hospitals could use this for medical displays, military could have a field day with this. Boats, planes, man I could list stuff forever.

Las vegas, hotels , these are the tip of the ice berg. They got to start somewhere. But if this catches on, and i have no reason to think otherwise, this is revolutionary.
post #80 of 113
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Originally Posted by dub273 View Post

There's no question in my mind that

a) These things are going to be popping up everywhere; and
b) They'll be a mainstay beyond the novelty of 'oooooh, how cool' and become an essential part of many public gathering places.

Hey I like a person that knows what they want! I'm quite a bit more skeptical however that is me being the critic-realist I am. Don't get me wrong "I hope this becomes HUGE" because it will be fun so I hope your right. I see $$$ getting in the way of allowing the anonymous public touching them. I don't see the demanding need for it either. $$$ are getting tighter and the mainstay stuff gets it done, it's cheaper and paid for. This almost sounds too good for it's own good. Hope I'm wrong and I hope you're right.

Maybe there is more of a need at replacing typical monitors with this new technology to get a little bit more out of the desktop experience.
post #81 of 113
very impressed as well, when the tech matures and prices drop, i'll be all over a MS Surface in my livingroom.
post #82 of 113
been waiting for them to unveil this thing for 3 years!
It will change the way we play games too.
post #83 of 113
The gaming potential of this is amazing. Imagine how they could shoehorn this into some sort of control apparatus for future consoles. Instead of pushing a button to deal a card you actually deal the card. No need to hold some rectangular control and pretend you're dealing a card, just actually make a card dealing motion with your bare hands. This could lead to so much in the hands of the right creative person. The fact that MS is licensing this out shows that they're not just looking to use this technology to sell a few things, but more as groundwork for all sorts of products that'll use this sensing technology as way for people to interact with. Think how more natural it is for someone to move pictures around on a table or screen rather than moving a clunky mouse and having to drag & drop. This could be something we'll start seeing all over the place soon.
post #84 of 113
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Originally Posted by Megalith View Post

Interactive porn?

hahaha... was wondering how long before someone would mention this!

imagine some "toys" that had an interactive picture/movie of whatever act you were doing!

damn! there'd be broken screens all over the place!


Add:
Whatever happens, dont let Dave Chappelle near this thing! EWWW! Clean-up on Dave Chappelle!

http://grouper.com/video/MediaDetails.aspx?id=1684733
post #85 of 113
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Originally Posted by mikepaul View Post

If the idea seen in "Tron" was actually GOOD, it would have been implemented in the many years since the movie.

It hasnt been implemented because "I" destroyed the MCP!
post #86 of 113
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Originally Posted by Hmerly View Post

The gaming potential of this is amazing. Imagine how they could shoehorn this into some sort of control apparatus for future consoles. Instead of pushing a button to deal a card you actually deal the card. No need to hold some rectangular control and pretend you're dealing a card, just actually make a card dealing motion with your bare hands. This could lead to so much in the hands of the right creative person. .

Wiimote?
post #87 of 113
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Originally Posted by tronn View Post

It hasnt been implemented because "I" destroyed the MCP!


LMAO
post #88 of 113
It looks like a giant iPhone.
post #89 of 113
Wow those video's look pretty damn good.
post #90 of 113
i will max out my visa for one if i can replace my universal remote with it
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