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post #1 of 26
5/30/07 at 2:14pm
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Hey guys, im getting fed up the video on my HTPC is clear.. but i wish it was cleaner and clearer.. and most people are telling me to set up FFDshow and Dscaler.. im using the 8800GTS 640MB Superclocked Card.. and a Core 2 Duo Extreme 2GB HTPC.. any other info i can supply if needed.. thing is i have some family comming over and wanna really show off my set up.. and the htpc videos arnt playing at there best.. i will compenstate someone who can help me thru all this and get it running the right way and cleaner and clearer video.. my screen is a 2:35:1 and using a HD81 optoma projector.. 10 foot screen

let me know PM me or post up here.. and we can get in contact..

thanks
Derek
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post #2 of 26
5/30/07 at 3:29pm
Have you seen other media on the projector (ie a good dvd player, etc)? It good to have a baseline for better/worse comparison. No disrespect to Dscaler, but download the newest theatertek demo with ffdshow and see how that looks. Are you using VGA? DVI? HDMI?
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post #3 of 26
5/30/07 at 3:46pm
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i have a full version of theatertek.. im clueless onwhere to begin with ffdshow and the threads are way to long to read and get it all done fast..

connections are DVI.. yes other media looks good.. HD DVDs, Blu Ray, and cable box.. even SD dvd to.. all DVI connected..
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post #4 of 26
5/30/07 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by BocaPimp View Post

i have a full version of theatertek.. im clueless onwhere to begin with ffdshow and the threads are way to long to read and get it all done fast..

connections are DVI.. yes other media looks good.. HD DVDs, Blu Ray, and cable box.. even SD dvd to.. all DVI connected..

What type of material are you trying to show off? DVD's, HD DVD's, Blu Ray?
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post #5 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:00pm
everyone is clueless when first working with FFDshow. Just start trying things. Limited sharpen/supersampling 2x/ Lanczos resize x 2/ in that order seems to be popular. There is no exact perfect recipe. Its an art, not a science.
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post #6 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:10pm
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Originally Posted by ballenjr View Post

What type of material are you trying to show off? DVD's, HD DVD's, Blu Ray?

A movie off my Raid ( so a burned DVD9 movie)
playing in theatertek
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post #7 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by BocaPimp View Post

A movie off my Raid ( so a burned DVD9 movie)
playing in theatertek

I'd like to help, but I haven't used theatertek for a while (ever since I moved to Vista).

You should check out the TheaterTek forums area, there are a couple of guides over there which may help you.

Which graphics card are you using? If you are using an NVIDIA 8xxx series ffdshow probably won't help much.

Last thing, if you are trying to show off a theater such as yours there is no substitute for High Def material. High Def completely blows away standard def on big screens.

Great Job on the Theater

ballenjr
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post #8 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:22pm
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thanks..

i will e showing off all features.. Raid (SD dvds).. HD and Bluray.. and now with the new graphics card finally in, and working (8800GTS 640MB Superclocked) i want it to look good when playing them from the RAID.. the bluray and hd are already perfect.. its just anything playing from the computer..
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post #9 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:29pm
You have your resolution at 1920x1080 right?
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post #10 of 26
5/30/07 at 4:36pm
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yup
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post #11 of 26
5/30/07 at 7:51pm
The guide I wrote wasn't meant for .iso's or .ts files.
These are interlaced, and if you use FFDshow on these files you'll need to set your refresh rate to a multiple of the fps the .ts .iso uses.

Setting the refresh rate to a multiple of the fps of the file should eliminate interlacing.
But, if you have the time and patience, you can encode your file on your raid, so that you won't need to set your refresh rate to a multiple of the file.

I wrote a guide on how to do just this, and will copy and paste it here for you.
Since you want a simple setup, I advise you to 1.) buy Zoomplayer pro 2.) buy the Nvidia codec 3.) Forget about ffdshow and only use the Nvidia codec with ZP, using exclusive renderless mode 4.) buy the monitor calibration software from calibrate.tv and also the blue galsses from thx link to at the calibrate.tv website.

These four things will make you happy.
Look at the threads I started by looking at my profile to find the encoding guide.
If you still want to use FFDshow, I suggest you still go get the nvidia codec, and calibrate your monitor, use the encoding guide. Then if it seems easy once you got the encoding down I'll help make setting FFDshow up as simplae as I can.
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post #12 of 26
5/31/07 at 7:01am
try this
a beginners guide to ffdshow. It has instructions on how to set up TT too.
http://www.htpcnews.com/index.php?op...sk=view&id=132

In my opinion, I liked zoom player more than TT. TT used nvidia codecs, and you can use those in zp too.

I use dscaler 5 codecs, ffshow (druid version)
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post #13 of 26
5/31/07 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by 8:13 View Post

The guide I wrote wasn't meant for .iso's or .ts files.
These are interlaced, and if you use FFDshow on these files you'll need to set your refresh rate to a multiple of the fps the .ts .iso uses.

Setting the refresh rate to a multiple of the fps of the file should eliminate interlacing.
But, if you have the time and patience, you can encode your file on your raid, so that you won't need to set your refresh rate to a multiple of the file.

I wrote a guide on how to do just this, and will copy and paste it here for you.
Since you want a simple setup, I advise you to 1.) buy Zoomplayer pro 2.) buy the Nvidia codec 3.) Forget about ffdshow and only use the Nvidia codec with ZP, using exclusive renderless mode 4.) buy the monitor calibration software from calibrate.tv and also the blue galsses from thx link to at the calibrate.tv website.

These four things will make you happy.
Look at the threads I started by looking at my profile to find the encoding guide.
If you still want to use FFDshow, I suggest you still go get the nvidia codec, and calibrate your monitor, use the encoding guide. Then if it seems easy once you got the encoding down I'll help make setting FFDshow up as simplae as I can.

Well theatertek is a must for me since i use Cinemar as my automation and lobby software.. so imust use that.. the nvidia decoder is already working automatic.. but im guessing thats not enough to clear and clean up the picture.. which is why i was told some some people to use ffdshow and dscaler to bring the image back to watching a normal dvd or such...
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post #14 of 26
5/31/07 at 5:40pm
Since your projector has such good upscaling built in, why don't you try outputing at NTSC resolution? If it helps, then you can have a temporary solution until you can figure out FFDshow.
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post #15 of 26
5/31/07 at 7:52pm
BocaPimp,

I redid my guide. I hope it's easier to understand.

Link
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post #16 of 26
5/31/07 at 8:06pm
A while ago Vern Dias posted a registry file that creates the registry entries for ffdshow for using 2x Lanczos 2 resize and Dscaler sharpness filter. I saved the file and use it everytime I reinstall Theatertek and ffdshow (which isn't often).

Vern compared the Toshiba HD-A1 with his HTPC:

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Originally Posted by Vern Dias
I have A-B compared my Toshiba HD-A1 which is widely acknowleded to also be one of the best upscaling players available to my HTPC.

My HTPC using an NVidia 7800GTX and Theatertek with ffdshow running a Lanczos2 resize and DScaler sharpen filter delivers a clearly superior image when compared to the HD-A1.

The HTPC image is significantly more detailed.

HTPC: DVI
Tosh: HDMI

1080I to a Qualia 004 FP projecting on a 5' x14' screen, viewed from 14' from the screen.

Vern
I have attached both the registry file and the sharpness filter. I assume you already have ffdshow installed.

1. Create a dscaler folder in program files: c:\\program files\\dscaler.
2. Place FLT_Sharpness. txt in the dscaler folder and rename FLT_Sharpness.txt to FLT_Sharpness.dll.
3. Copy the ffdshow.txt file to your computer, rename it to ffdshow.reg, and double click on it. It will set both the audio and video in ffdshow to the correct settings.
4. In your Video tab in Theatertek, set your primary post processing to ffdshow.
5. In the File Type tab, make sure .ifo and .vob are checked so that ffdshow processing occurs on these file types.
6. Enjoy your movie.

Note: Sizing the video larger than 2x does not allow the Video Controls (brightness & contrast) to work in Theatertek when using an Nvidia card. I'm not sure if this applies to the new 8xxx cards from Nvidia, so you may want to try 3x and see if they work.

 

FLT_Sharpness.txt 6k . file

 

ffdshow.txt 19.9892578125k . file
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post #17 of 26
5/31/07 at 10:15pm
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no i dont have anything installed except Theatertek.... ive seen some links to ffdshow but there are so many versions.. which one is the newest and best to use can u link me right to it?

thanks
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post #18 of 26
6/1/07 at 3:15am
The newest version is on sourceforge, but under a different name. If you just search for ffdshow, you get the version from a few years ago. ffdshow-tryouts is probably what you want http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/

Direct Link: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/s...0322_clsid.exe
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post #19 of 26
6/1/07 at 10:31am
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well ive run into a problem.. the files wont change there format there staying txt files i tryed rename, and even change program they open with they just wont change can u post them up here at the correct versions?.. maby i can just download them to where they need to be and be done with this..

thanks for everyone help time and time again. .
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post #20 of 26
6/1/07 at 10:37am
http://files.filefront.com//;7666109;;/
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post #21 of 26
6/1/07 at 10:40am
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wow those are different names and showing as AVSI files
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post #22 of 26
6/1/07 at 11:03am
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Originally Posted by BocaPimp View Post

well ive run into a problem.. the files wont change there format there staying txt files i tryed rename, and even change program they open with they just wont change can u post them up here at the correct versions?.. maby i can just download them to where they need to be and be done with this..

thanks for everyone help time and time again. .

I'm guessing that your problem may be because you can't see the file extensions.

Control Panel --> Folder Options --> Uncheck box for 'Hide extensions for known file types'

Hope this helps

Also, what OS are you running, XP or Vista?
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post #23 of 26
6/1/07 at 12:40pm
The best DVD image I've ever seen on an HD81, was to feed 480i YUY2/4:2:2 from a Pioneer 969 (Japanese version of 59); Gennum scaler of HD81 does a pefect job, super sharp details, perfect smooth contour, unbelievable S/N. Maybe the only chance an HTPC can compete with is to decode with DScaler5, and to put SeeSaw behind 3x Resize in FFDShow, your C2D Extreme would be powerful enough.

If you insist to use an HTPC, I suggest to feed your HD81 with 1080p/24Hz for film contents; Gennum scaler will convert 24Hz V/F to a judderless V/F of 48Hz.
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post #24 of 26
6/1/07 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by ballenjr View Post

I'm guessing that your problem may be because you can't see the file extensions.

Control Panel --> Folder Options --> Uncheck box for 'Hide extensions for known file types'

Hope this helps

Also, what OS are you running, XP or Vista?


Windows XP..

i dont see how Showing or Hiding the extension will change anything, im putting in the name with either the .dll or .reg and there not changing at all..
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post #25 of 26
6/1/07 at 1:47pm
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Originally Posted by BocaPimp View Post

Windows XP..

i dont see how Showing or Hiding the extension will change anything, im putting in the name with either the .dll or .reg and there not changing at all..

If you are not showing the file extension then when you are renaming the file as:

ffdshow.dll.txt or ffdshow.reg.txt

Try showing the file extensions, it's at least worth a shot.
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post #26 of 26
6/1/07 at 1:51pm
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well after a restart of the machine.. and then a look into the controll panel at the extensions i tried it and it worked.. thanks fo the help..

so now ive got FFDSHOW running at the post processor.. anything else i should get maby to clean it up a bit more? or also whats the process about making it 2x and not going past that.. cuase i notice to that the picture is clearer but still kinda dark..
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