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post #4171 of 10257
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Originally Posted by hasan View Post

Scythe S-FLEX SFF21 (fan, ultra quiet, $14.95)

http://www.coolerguys.com/sff21.html

Model Number: SFF21D
Size: 120x120x25mm
Speed: 800rpm
Noise Output: 8.7dBA (ultra quiet noise level and it had 150,00 MTBF rating)
Volume of Air Movement: 33.5CFM

Current Draw: 0.10A
Operating Voltage: 12V

Stock Number: 840556025443



Power Supply (A/C), Matching Plug, and cord: (required for above fan $12.95)

(Bottom right hand corner of the fan listing page: click on pix of power supply)

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556029977.html

This is the "elite" of Home Theater fans in terms of quietness and reliability.

Hope this helps ya.


Hasan,

Do you just lay the fans on top of the receiver? By the way I have a Onkyo 805. Or do you have any other ideas?
post #4172 of 10257
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Originally Posted by hasan View Post

Scythe S-FLEX SFF21 (fan, ultra quiet, $14.95)

http://www.coolerguys.com/sff21.html

Model Number: SFF21D
Size: 120x120x25mm
Speed: 800rpm
Noise Output: 8.7dBA (ultra quiet noise level and it had 150,00 MTBF rating)
Volume of Air Movement: 33.5CFM

Current Draw: 0.10A
Operating Voltage: 12V

Stock Number: 840556025443



Power Supply (A/C), Matching Plug, and cord: (required for above fan $12.95)

(Bottom right hand corner of the fan listing page: click on pix of power supply)

http://www.coolerguys.com/840556029977.html

This is the "elite" of Home Theater fans in terms of quietness and reliability.

Hope this helps ya.

Hasan,

Did you plug this fan directly to the outlet on the receiver? I would like it to turn on and off with the receiver. Can you please let me know how you got it to work?
post #4173 of 10257
Hi ALL,

I'm going to be buying the Samsung BD-UP5000 BD/HD-DVD player when it comes out (rummored to be from any day now to early 2008!!!) and I need to update my surround AVR. I downloaded the 605 manual and it looks like what I need but I have a couple of questions.

The first had to do with the OSD/OSM but I found a few posts which explained it. If the Samsung is fed to the 605 via HDMI and the 605 to the TV via HDMI then no OSD (volume, etc.) but it will show OSM (Setup, settings, etc.). Is this correct?

The other thing that bothers me is on page 63 of the manual where it shows the different audio source formats and the types of processing that can be applied. At the upper right it shows TrueHD*1. At the bottom of the page it says:

*1. During input of a 96kHz TrueHD signal, the only sound balance or sound quality adjustment that can be made is Tone control. The AVR does not respond to a 192 kHz TrueHD signal.

Does this mean that if the Samsung outputs TrueHD bitstream (which its supposed to) to the 605 then the speaker level adjustments and equalizer settings (as set by Audyssey) will have no effect? Is not being able to accept an 192 kHz TrueHD signal a problem? On page 65 there is a similar footnote for DTS-HD MA.

I can live with the OSD limitations, but if the above is true isn't that negating the benifit of sending the audio bitstream digitally so that it can be processed in the 605? If the Samsung is set to output PCM and that is sent to the 605 will it be all the channels and allow for level and equalizer settings?

Thanks,
Gerry
post #4174 of 10257
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Originally Posted by davidag02 View Post

I've been looking for a sub-$500 reciever that will handle video switching and HDMI for some time now.

I have a brother who has Onkyo vendor connections, and he can get me the 605 for less than $400. Obviously this is an outstanding deal, but I'm still curious about how great this reciever really is. I know for around $500 MSRP I really shouldn't expect too much. However, I'm upgrading from a 12 year old Marantz, so I want this one to last me a while.

CNET gave it a great review, but I've learned not to always trust their opinions.


I think that I am probably asking about the same thing davidag02 is. I am looking for a new reciever and saw that cnet gave it great reviews, but I also read in their reviews that the video processing for the unit wasn't that great but I took that as the processing for analog signals passing through. In a nutshell though, I was just wondering if this would be a good receiver for me to run a blu ray player and xbox360 through without loosing any video and audio quality. Are there any things about this reciever that wouldn't make it a good choice for me?

Thanks for any help.
post #4175 of 10257
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Originally Posted by cg7208 View Post

I think that I am probably asking about the same thing davidag02 is. I am looking for a new reciever and saw that cnet gave it great reviews, but I also read in their reviews that the video processing for the unit wasn't that great but I took that as the processing for analog signals passing through. In a nutshell though, I was just wondering if this would be a good receiver for me to run a blu ray player and xbox360 through without loosing any video and audio quality. Are there any things about this reciever that wouldn't make it a good choice for me?

Thanks for any help.

Well the only thing is with the 360 if you have the older version with component outs (non-elite) the receiver will only output to 720p even if u set your 360 to 1080i.
post #4176 of 10257
i updated my 605's firmware. thanks to the UK avforum, i had another user send me the file and i ran the update via cd player and optical. i now get THD and DD+. i am a happy camper now, but still disappointed in OnkyoUS with their technical service.
post #4177 of 10257
^^Couldn't you just hook the component cable from the xbox straight to the tv, and the toslink to the receiver? I'm also looking into this, and I too have an old xbox 360.
post #4178 of 10257
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Originally Posted by twg519 View Post

^^Couldn't you just hook the component cable from the xbox straight to the tv, and the toslink to the receiver? I'm also looking into this, and I too have an old xbox 360.

That's exactly what you should do if your 360 doesn't have HDMI. The only downside is that you have to change the input on your TV, but that's a small concession to make for full resolution.
post #4179 of 10257
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Originally Posted by cuzzin View Post

There's a problem I've come across: when I access certain features through Comcast's Video On Demand menu, after selecting what I want to watch, sometimes I'll get a loud pop, which sometimes results in the receiver shutting down (I think depending on how loud the volume is) and the standby light blinking. If the receiver doesn't shut down after the noise, it goes quiet, but I am able to get audio back by sorting through the "Listening Modes." I'm not sure exactly what the problem is, but it's only happened with certain videos in the VOD menu. I haven't noticed this problem any other time. The cable box is connected to my 605 by Toslink.

Still trying to figure this out. Anyone?
post #4180 of 10257
I knew it wouldnt be so easy for me =)

I just got my 605 today, hooked it up and I can only get sound from the center channel. Fronts and backs have nothing, not even though the test tone. I'm going HDMI from my DVD (Toshiba A3) to the receiver then out to TV. Im using Bourne Identity as my test (radio also gave me just center channel). I've checked the site and I am not due for a firmware update. I checked the settings on my dvd player (set to use PCM). I can get DVD Direct and DVD Multichannel (but thats it, can toggle to any others). I can toggle the full menu with the radio but still only center channel. I've double checked the connections for all my other speakers (and sub) and are all good (5.1). I know all the other speakers work. I've read though the manual twice now and I know Im just missing something foolish but I cant seem to find it. If someone can let me know what im overlooking I'd greatly appricate it.
post #4181 of 10257
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Originally Posted by L&M View Post

I knew it wouldnt be so easy for me =)

I just got my 605 today, hooked it up and I can only get sound from the center channel. Fronts and backs have nothing, not even though the test tone. I'm going HDMI from my DVD (Toshiba A3) to the receiver then out to TV. Im using Bourne Identity as my test (radio also gave me just center channel). I've checked the site and I am not due for a firmware update. I checked the settings on my dvd player (set to use PCM). I can get DVD Direct and DVD Multichannel (but thats it, can toggle to any others). I can toggle the full menu with the radio but still only center channel. I've double checked the connections for all my other speakers (and sub) and are all good (5.1). I know all the other speakers work. I've read though the manual twice now and I know Im just missing something foolish but I cant seem to find it. If someone can let me know what im overlooking I'd greatly appricate it.

Don't bother testing with your DVD player if you can't get even get test tones to play. If you haven't already, try running Audyssey.
post #4182 of 10257
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Originally Posted by kplex View Post

Don't bother testing with your DVD player if you can't get even get test tones to play. If you haven't already, try running Audyssey.

I have all my speakers in a pile, I didnt want to set them up prior to testing them as I still have to run wire all over. Is this the only way? I would expect to get some sound out of each, even if it isnt well balanced.
post #4183 of 10257
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Originally Posted by L&M View Post

I have all my speakers in a pile, I didnt want to set them up prior to testing them as I still have to run wire all over. Is this the only way? I would expect to get some sound out of each, even if it isnt well balanced.

I'm assuming you've gone into the speaker setup menu on the 605 to make sure that all speakers that you've connected are actually active in there. If not, then that's likely where the problem is (short of being a bum receiver).
post #4184 of 10257
For those who might be interested...The 705 can be had for under 4 5 0 on shoponkyo.
post #4185 of 10257
Well, I've done my best to read as much as possible, but it can be difficult to keep up. And a single thread with 2000 posts doesn't help too much, though I understand the argument.

So, will the 605 (or 705) allow more than 5 audio sources to be connected (and provide switching)?

The Cnet review says that 5 sources is the maximum that one can have for the 605. Is that the case?

I currently have an HD-DVR (HDMI or HDMI + Multichan analog), HD-A3 (HDMI), Xbox 360 (component + optical), cable/ota HD, Nintendo Wii.

In the future I'll likely pick up a bluray player (PS3 probably) and will eventually have an HTPC. Will the 605 provide for my needs given the above?

My only real sticking points on the 605 are the above question and the matrixing of LPCM to 7.1. I'm trying to decide if that feature is worth giving up the inherant futureproofing of the TrueHD/DTS HDMA codecs for Matrixing at the same price (yamaha 661) or moving to the 705 (if it allows more than 5 devices).

Thanks for any input.
post #4186 of 10257
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Originally Posted by benso37 View Post

For those who might be interested...The 705 can be had for under 4 5 0 on shoponkyo.

Must have disappeared by now.
I am looking for this option, but timing as well as interest seems to be a requirement...
post #4187 of 10257
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Originally Posted by stangage70 View Post

Must have disappeared by now.
I am looking for this option, but timing as well as interest seems to be a requirement...


Yeah, it's gone. I'm glad I kept refreshing the page this morning. I was able to use the 10% coupon which expires today.
post #4188 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Chief5286 View Post

Well, I've done my best to read as much as possible, but it can be difficult to keep up. And a single thread with 2000 posts doesn't help too much, though I understand the argument.

So, will the 605 (or 705) allow more than 5 audio sources to be connected (and provide switching)?

The Cnet review says that 5 sources is the maximum that one can have for the 605. Is that the case?

I currently have an HD-DVR (HDMI or HDMI + Multichan analog), HD-A3 (HDMI), Xbox 360 (component + optical), cable/ota HD, Nintendo Wii.

In the future I'll likely pick up a bluray player (PS3 probably) and will eventually have an HTPC. Will the 605 provide for my needs given the above?

My only real sticking points on the 605 are the above question and the matrixing of LPCM to 7.1. I'm trying to decide if that feature is worth giving up the inherant futureproofing of the TrueHD/DTS HDMA codecs for Matrixing at the same price (yamaha 661) or moving to the 705 (if it allows more than 5 devices).

Thanks for any input.

Theoretically if you add an HDMI switch it should just be considered one source by the 605 but you should still be able to run whatever sources are plugged into the switch so I don't think you will have a problem if you consider adding the switch.
post #4189 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

I'm assuming you've gone into the speaker setup menu on the 605 to make sure that all speakers that you've connected are actually active in there. If not, then that's likely where the problem is (short of being a bum receiver).

Yes I disabled the rear speakers (Im only 5.1) but the rest still show active (which is default IIRC) but I'll double check.

I thought at 1st it may be faulty so I swapped receviers but still have the same problem so it must be a ID-10T issue.
post #4190 of 10257
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Originally Posted by L&M View Post

Yes I disabled the rear speakers (Im only 5.1) but the rest still show active (which is default IIRC) but I'll double check.

I thought at 1st it may be faulty so I swapped receviers but still have the same problem so it must be a ID-10T issue.

When you say you run the test tone? What test tone do you mean. If you run the Audyssey setup it will send test tones to each speaker, try that.
post #4191 of 10257
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Originally Posted by L&M View Post

Yes I disabled the rear speakers (Im only 5.1) but the rest still show active (which is default IIRC) but I'll double check.

I thought at 1st it may be faulty so I swapped receviers but still have the same problem so it must be a ID-10T issue.

Something else that might be worth trying is plug in the Audyssey mic and begin the setup test. As soon as the first speaker starts chirping, cancel the test or unplug the mic (you said your speakers weren't in the right place anyways). I seem to remember seeing something (a post here maybe?) that mentioned that the receiver wouldn't function correctly until the Audyssey test was run, even if it was cancelled. It's worth a shot.
post #4192 of 10257
Can anyone recommend a HDMI swith with remote that works well with the 605? Should I be looking for a swith that's HDMI 1.3a as well? or does it not matter. I have accumulated enough HDMI devices and it's time to add more HDMI ports without upgrade to the 705/805. I have a PS3, Xbox 360 w/ HDMI out, HDDVR, and HD-A35.

Thanks
post #4193 of 10257
Ok, so I just got my brother a new 605... Got a ps3 hooked into it with hdmi and have directv hooked in with hdmi.... got a set of klipsche quintet IIIs with sub10 all hooked up... My question concerns all of the different ways to output the audio... Can someone tell me what the best way to output sound for :

non-hd programming
hd programming
regular DVD with dolby d 5.1 capability
blu ray


Currently, for regular dvds, blu rays, and hd channels, the apparant best surround sound I get is "PCM NEO CINEMA" what the hell is that ? I haven't installed an amp since 01 so I'm a little behind...whatever happened to just good old dolby d 5.1 and DTS ? what is this PCM ? no matter what I try (dvd menus), I can't get reciever to output in dolby d ? is this pcm neo cinema dolby d just reworked for even better sound ? (because it did sound damn good)... any help is appreciated...
post #4194 of 10257
This link might help.


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Originally Posted by lordramz View Post

Ok, so I just got my brother a new 605... Got a ps3 hooked into it with hdmi and have directv hooked in with hdmi.... got a set of klipsche quintet IIIs with sub10 all hooked up... My question concerns all of the different ways to output the audio... Can someone tell me what the best way to output sound for :

non-hd programming
hd programming
regular DVD with dolby d 5.1 capability
blu ray


Currently, for regular dvds, blu rays, and hd channels, the apparant best surround sound I get is "PCM NEO CINEMA" what the hell is that ? I haven't installed an amp since 01 so I'm a little behind...whatever happened to just good old dolby d 5.1 and DTS ? what is this PCM ? no matter what I try (dvd menus), I can't get reciever to output in dolby d ? is this pcm neo cinema dolby d just reworked for even better sound ? (because it did sound damn good)... any help is appreciated...
post #4195 of 10257
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Originally Posted by lordramz View Post

Currently, for regular dvds, blu rays, and hd channels, the apparant best surround sound I get is "PCM NEO CINEMA" what the hell is that ? I haven't installed an amp since 01 so I'm a little behind...whatever happened to just good old dolby d 5.1 and DTS ? what is this PCM ? no matter what I try (dvd menus), I can't get reciever to output in dolby d ? is this pcm neo cinema dolby d just reworked for even better sound ? (because it did sound damn good)... any help is appreciated...

Sorry to be one of the "them", but RTFM. There's a two page spread that explains in plain English what each of the Neos, PLIIx, and other options are for, including suggestions on when to use them. There are also 4 or 5 pages of fairly easy to read charts indicating when each of these sound options will be available.
post #4196 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Fireone23 View Post

Can anyone recommend a HDMI swith with remote that works well with the 605? Should I be looking for a swith that's HDMI 1.3a as well? or does it not matter. I have accumulated enough HDMI devices and it's time to add more HDMI ports without upgrade to the 705/805. I have a PS3, Xbox 360 w/ HDMI out, HDDVR, and HD-A35.

Thanks

I have an HDMI-31 (3 to 1) switch made by TERK. Its great cause it automatically switches between sources (depending on which one was turned on most recent) so it doesn't need a remote. It can have problems with some satellite boxes since they have a screensaver even when they are "off" but I have my SAT box hooked directly to HDMI-1 and my PS3/360 hooked up to the switch and then the switch hooked up to HDMI-2. It works great and switches between the PS3 and XBox pretty much flawlessly.
post #4197 of 10257
Hello,
May I ask how to get the best SQ (watching HD DVD) out of my 605 while using A3 player? what's the set up should be? Right now I'm using HDMI, and bitsteam out to 605. By the way, what is the setting in " Listening Mode Preset" 605? right now is setted as "last valid" is that correct? and how come the 605 OSD didn't show "DD+" or "TrueHD" when I was watching HD DVD ? I did change the audio setting to DD+ in the DVD
post #4198 of 10257
This receiver replaced the 674, correct? If so, I see 1.3 compatability and the like, good move instead of buying a 674?
post #4199 of 10257
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Originally Posted by Pugnax555 View Post

Sorry to be one of the "them", but RTFM. There's a two page spread that explains in plain English what each of the Neos, PLIIx, and other options are for, including suggestions on when to use them. There are also 4 or 5 pages of fairly easy to read charts indicating when each of these sound options will be available.

I didn't see anything but the chart, but I couldn't understand all of that... sorry
post #4200 of 10257
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Originally Posted by lordramz View Post

Ok, so I just got my brother a new 605... Got a ps3 hooked into it with hdmi and have directv hooked in with hdmi.... got a set of klipsche quintet IIIs with sub10 all hooked up... My question concerns all of the different ways to output the audio... Can someone tell me what the best way to output sound for :

non-hd programming
hd programming
regular DVD with dolby d 5.1 capability
blu ray


Currently, for regular dvds, blu rays, and hd channels, the apparant best surround sound I get is "PCM NEO CINEMA" what the hell is that ? I haven't installed an amp since 01 so I'm a little behind...whatever happened to just good old dolby d 5.1 and DTS ? what is this PCM ? no matter what I try (dvd menus), I can't get reciever to output in dolby d ? is this pcm neo cinema dolby d just reworked for even better sound ? (because it did sound damn good)... any help is appreciated...

Make sure HDMI Audio Out = NO, menu 7-5.
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