Official Onkyo 605 Owners Thread - Page 317

Originally Posted by newguy416

I may not explain this correctly but hopefully someone knows what I am trying to ask.
I am considering purchasing a PS3 to run with my 605. I have read that some receivers do not properly process the PCM very well by not applying the +10db boost correctly. Dose anyone know if the 605 processes this correctly? I don't want to loose any of the sound quality so I could get a player that bitstreams instead if this is an issue. Also if there is a setting I need to turn on or off can you please let me know?
Thanks.

Originally Posted by newguy416

I am having an issue that I though I had under control.
I thought that component in to componnet out was just a pass through but when I hold display down on the receiver is says 720P insted of passing 1080i.

What I have:
HD DVD > HDMI 1
Blu ray > HDMI 2
Xbox 360 > Component 1
Wii > Component 2
DVR 622 > Component 3

I have HDMI out to the TV and Component out to the TV. I thought by haveing both HDMI and Component connected to the TV the reciever would pass the native signal through. Whatever was going in HDMI would come out HDMI and the same for component. Unless I am missing something when I hold display down it shows 720p on every channel while I am watching TV with the 622.
It is really passing component untouched if it is going out component and the display information is stating what the HDMI out is?

Originally Posted by pj110

I have both my sony s350 blue ray player and my HD cable box pug in to the hdmi inputs in the 605 and out to my sony kdl40v3000. The question I have is do the receiver have to be on to get picture and sound when I turn the the receiver off I get no video of sound. Is there any way to have sound and picture ouputed without having the receiver on all the time.

Originally Posted by GarrettL

I am having some serious problems/frustrations with my 8 month old 605. My problem occurs when i try to hook up my newly acquired sub up to my sub pre-out. Up to now i have never hooked up a sub to this receiver. I know for a fact that my sub is operating properly.
When I hook up the sub and run audyssey, I only faintly hear the sub during the configuration process. After it has completed, I hear nothing from my sub when watching a DVD on DD5.1. My dvd player is bitstreaming DD5.1 and my 605 is set to DD5.1 but no sub signal at all. My 5 other speakers have no problems. I called onkyo support guy and he informed me that the sub preout is supposed to output 1v when activated, and that I will more than likely have to send my receiver in for repair. I went so far as to hook up a rca cable(with exposed leads on the other end) to the sub preout in order to test the supposed 1v with a voltmeter and nada.....no signal at all.
Am I overlooking something simple, are my receiver settings wrong or am I indeed stuck with a faulty receiver? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Garrett

Originally Posted by KKfromLA

have you figured this problem out? Does anyone have any suggestions?

I am having trouble with my sub out as well... When i plug in an older rca sub (i used it just to test), it would play fine. but immediately when I would plug in my klipsch sub (which definitely works) i barely hear anything. I have to turn the gain on the sub all the way up and the db boost on the reciever all the way up to hear ANYTHING from the sub.... then i switch the wire into the rca sub and its loud...

I don't know what to do. It cant be the sub because it was working at my friends house that day... is there something funky going on between my klipsch sub and the 605????

Originally Posted by KillerSpaz

Is it a powered sub? The 605 does not power the sub pre-out

Originally Posted by chrisb0

GarrettL and KKfromLA, a couple of thoughts:
1. How many RCA inputs are on the back of your sub? If more than one type, which are you using?
the sub has multiple inputs, I am using a single LFE
2. Many subs have a L/R pair and a single RCA labeled as "LFE". It's the LFE connection you want on the sub, since the ".1" in "5.1" is a LFE (low frequency effects) channel.
i am using the lfe input on the sub...
3. You are using the "preout subwoofer" (#21 in manual) and not the "subwoofer" DVD 7.1 analog input (#19 in manual), right?
yes, using the preout subwoofer
4. If for some reason you did not have the sub connected and ran Audyssey, or you never had a sub connected and ran it (i.e. Garrett), then it's possible that the 605 has disabled the sub preout, which could be why you're not seeing the 1V output (just a wild guess). Have you manually checked the config before running Audyssey and see if the sub was enabled? If it's not, try enabling it first and then running Aud.
5. Also, make sure your sub input sensitivity knob is set at least half way, if not a bit more, before running Aud just to see if that helps.
i have it all the way up just to hear anything from it... but its still barely audible on the level calibration
6. Maybe the Aud microphone is malfunctioning and not sensing the sub?
7. From the manual p.45 "If the subwoofer (SW) appears on the SP Detect Result screen as “No,” increase the subwoofer’s volume to the half-way point, set it to its highest crossover frequency, and then try running the automatic speaker setup again. Note that if the volume is set too high and the sound distorts, it may not be detected, so use an appropriate volume level. If the subwoofer has a low-pass filter switch, set it to Off or Direct."
the sub has no switches, just a crossover, level, and phase

Hope one of these ideas helps.

Originally Posted by in the flesh?

I now have a 6.0 (soon to be 6.1) speaker system. I have an onkyo 605 and a ps3. I know the 605 can't matrix 5 channel lpcm from the PS3 to 6 (or 7) channels.

So what do onkyo 605 owners with 6 or 7 speaker configurations in this forum do when they are listening to a 5.1 lossless soundtrack? just listen to it through five speakers? listen to the lossy core and matrix it out to 6.1 or 7.1?

what is the optimal configuration for setting up the speakers if I am to listen to a lot of stuff in 5.1, but have 6 speakers? I know the rear should be in the middle back, but should the rear left and right be in the corners behind the listener or to the side and not behind the listener? I am talking about in an empty rectangle, nothing specific to my space.

Originally Posted by andydumi

I listen to stuff in 5.1 if its 5.1 and 7.1 if its 7.1.

As to placement, the 605 manual says:

*If you’re using only one surround back speaker, connect it to
the left (L) SURR BACK SPEAKERS terminals.

And place it in the center in the back.

The other 2 should be on the sides in the back.

Like this:




Where ||||||||| is the sitting area.

Originally Posted by in the flesh?

thanks for the reply. I will put #4 and #6 in your diagram just how you show them. i did find a diagram on DTS's web site that shows it like you have it. On Dolby's web site they show only 5.1 and 7.1.

when matrixing to 6.1, is neo6 the best one to use?

Originally Posted by Daveyd

I have a 7.1 system as well (Onkyo SP908). I listen to all TrueHD 5.1 and uncompressed 5.1 audio in 5.1. DTS-HD 7.1 in 7.1 obviously

The sound from a TrueHD track comes out of my 3 front and 2 "side" speakers with nothing coming out of the 2 "rears". It still sounds awesome.

I've been thinking about upgrading to the 606 as I believe it will matrix HD audio to all 7 speakers but not sure it is worth the price or hassle

Originally Posted by Daveyd

I have a 7.1 system as well (Onkyo SP908). I listen to all TrueHD 5.1 and uncompressed 5.1 audio in 5.1. DTS-HD 7.1 in 7.1 obviously

The sound from a TrueHD track comes out of my 3 front and 2 "side" speakers with nothing coming out of the 2 "rears". It still sounds awesome.

I've been thinking about upgrading to the 606 as I believe it will matrix HD audio to all 7 speakers but not sure it is worth the price or hassle

Originally Posted by chrisb0

GarrettL and KKfromLA, a couple of thoughts:
1. How many RCA inputs are on the back of your sub? If more than one type, which are you using?

Actually my amp has a binding post input and XLR inputs....currently i am using a rca to xlr cable to connect my sub amp to the receiver.

2. Many subs have a L/R pair and a single RCA labeled as "LFE". It's the LFE connection you want on the sub, since the ".1" in "5.1" is a LFE (low frequency effects) channel.

I dont have a crossover in the sub amp...its actually a crest FA-901 pro amp driving my subwoofer. I have tested the amps inputs and they seem to work fine with other audio sources. I am letting the 605 take care of the low freq x over tasks.

3. You are using the "preout subwoofer" (#21 in manual) and not the "subwoofer" DVD 7.1 analog input (#19 in manual), right?

correct

4. If for some reason you did not have the sub connected and ran Audyssey, or you never had a sub connected and ran it (i.e. Garrett), then it's possible that the 605 has disabled the sub preout, which could be why you're not seeing the 1V output (just a wild guess). Have you manually checked the config before running Audyssey and see if the sub was enabled? If it's not, try enabling it first and then running Aud.

I didnt check to see if the sub was enabled before i ran Aud. When i did run it however the tone coming from the sub was very muffled and low. I did ensure the sub was in fact enabled at the end of the Aud process.

5. Also, make sure your sub input sensitivity knob is set at least half way, if not a bit more, before running Aud just to see if that helps.

Didnt seem to help

6. Maybe the Aud microphone is malfunctioning and not sensing the sub?
7. From the manual p.45 "If the subwoofer (SW) appears on the SP Detect Result screen as “No,” increase the subwoofer’s volume to the half-way point, set it to its highest crossover frequency, and then try running the automatic speaker setup again. Note that if the volume is set too high and the sound distorts, it may not be detected, so use an appropriate volume level. If the subwoofer has a low-pass filter switch, set it to Off or Direct."

Aud did detect the sub when it finished running its process....Very Very low volume and still not anywhere close to the 1v onkyo claims the preout outputs. I am measuring more like .01-.02 v from the preout with my voltometer when Batman Begins is playing on DolbyD.

Hope one of these ideas helps.

Originally Posted by KKfromLA

maybe i should adjust (raise) the sensitivity on the receiver (the subwoofer sensitivity option through the receiver's menu)


btw thanks for the help!!!

Originally Posted by GarrettL

Sounds like we have the same problem....

I sent my receiver off to have the sub preout fixed since I wasnt getting anywhere near the 1 v onkyo claims the preout outputs...just got it back from the regional onkyo support center and still have the same problems...Dosent look like they fixed a damn thing. Very frustrated to say the least!!!