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post #3361 of 3538
Hello!

I am trying to get this projector to work with the nvidia 3D Vision glasses. It requires a refresh rate above 60hz, however over DVI I can't seem to get this. My video card is an 8800 gts and has 2 DVI outs. The projector only has a DVI in. Is this a DVI issue? It works fine on my CRT monitor w/ a DVI to VGA adapter. I am trying to do it at 1280x720 res w/ the projector. I have read somewhere that it will do 85hz at that res.

Any tips on getting this to work on the projector is greatly appreciated. Do I have to convert DVI to VGA...then somehow to DVI again? lol... that doesn't sound right.

EDIT: Nevermind. I got it to work with the nvidia 3D video player, but the refresh would only go up to 75hz and looked god-awful. Flicker vision 3d!
post #3362 of 3538
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Originally Posted by basil_brush View Post

Thanks mate, had resigned myself to the fact but was holding out for someone to tell me to hold down a couple of buttons on the controller and it would sort itself out! at least it's still in warranty...

Just received my projector back, fully repaired and in less than 10 working days. Have to take my hat off to Optoma, it was a completely painless exercise, i'm now just trying to find out what the fault actually was!
post #3363 of 3538
basil_brush - could you keep us informed please. I think I have the same issue - skintones and background almost unwatchable. I thought it was a configuration error, but believe now it is a fault. I have re-set to factory settings and no better. I will check my warranty but if you could find out what the fault was that would be really helpful
Thanks
Paul
post #3364 of 3538
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Originally Posted by pjeast73 View Post

basil_brush - could you keep us informed please. I think I have the same issue - skintones and background almost unwatchable. I thought it was a configuration error, but believe now it is a fault. I have re-set to factory settings and no better. I will check my warranty but if you could find out what the fault was that would be really helpful
Thanks
Paul

Apparently it was a problem with the colour wheel which had gone out of sequence, they also recommended vacuuming it out every now and then, which i do do but obviously not enough!
post #3365 of 3538
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Originally Posted by basil_brush View Post

Apparently it was a problem with the colour wheel which had gone out of sequence, they also recommended vacuuming it out every now and then, which i do do but obviously not enough!

What did they mean by vacuuming it out? Did they mean putting the vacuum nozzle next to the air input?
post #3366 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

What did they mean by vacuuming it out? Did they mean putting the vacuum nozzle next to the air input?

They suggested vacuuming around the Grills.

I had such a good suction going the other day it pulled the lens out of focus
post #3367 of 3538
I've never vacuumed my HD80. Does anyone else do this? Does it really help?
post #3368 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

I've never vacuumed my HD80. May be that's why I have 4 faint dust blobs?! Does anyone else do this? Does it really help?

I have never done it. You would think with all the mechanical parts inside, you could really damage or dislodge something. Maybe a very very low fan vacuum might work!
post #3369 of 3538
Well I sold my HD80 and got great feedback from the eBay buyer so I hope it's gone for good. All in all I would have to say I was extremely pleased with the HD80. Although I didn't put very many hours on it I never had a single issue and I was more than happy with its performance.

I sold it now for two reasons...
  • It was out of warranty. Should anything happen I'm sure I wouldn't want to spend what it would cost to repair.
  • I figured with the Optoma HD20 and other sub 1k projectors if I waited any longer the resell value would be diving even faster.
I certainly didn't sell it because I was unhappy. Current replacement looks to be the Epson 8500UB with the Panasonic PT-AE4000U coming in second. My two least favorite things about the projector were its noise level and (lack of) black level. Both of the above address these issues and throw in a few new features for the fun of it.
post #3370 of 3538
Your post made me think Charles. I've got 7 months left on my warranty so it might be a good time to sell it on. The longer I wait the less it will be worth and I figure that with 7 months warranty it'll make the projector more attractive to potential buyers. It's a shame because I really do love my HD80. I'm having a really hard time though deciding on an upgrade. Basically, because I want to stick to DLP and because I need v-scaling because of my anamorphic lens it has boiled down to two projectors: the Optoma HD82 and the Benq W5000. Obviously the HD82 (not sure what they call it in the States) is a new model while the Benq is only a little younger than the HD80 itself. But I recall Big Lebowski shifting to the Benq and being very happy with it as an improvement on the HD80. I can get the HD82 for £2100 here and the Benq for £1500. The question is which one to buy. Both come with 3 years warranty here so no difference in that respect (although Benq make you pay the return cost after the first year). One dealer I spoke to said that he wouldn't touch Benq with a barge pole because of reliability issues. Another said that in terms of black levels the HD82 isn't much of an advance on the HD80. So is it better to spend more money on the HD82 or save money on the older W5000. I don't know what to do!!! I'd appreciate your opinons!
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Well I sold my HD80 and got great feedback from the eBay buyer so I hope it's gone for good. All in all I would have to say I was extremely pleased with the HD80. Although I didn't put very many hours on it I never had a single issue and I was more than happy with its performance.

I sold it now for two reasons...
  • It was out of warranty. Should anything happen I'm sure I wouldn't want to spend what it would cost to repair.
  • I figured with the Optoma HD20 and other sub 1k projectors if I waited any longer the resell value would be diving even faster.
I certainly didn't sell it because I was unhappy. Current replacement looks to be the Epson 8500UB with the Panasonic PT-AE4000U coming in second. My two least favorite things about the projector were its noise level and (lack of) black level. Both of the above address these issues and throw in a few new features for the fun of it.
post #3371 of 3538
Of course my warranty was out 5 days ago, I have an HD80 and the colors are wacked.
Faces look all blurry, images belnding, bright colors seem washing together.
Lamp only has 500 hours...
I am assuming this is a color wheel.
Optoma wants 110 just to run diagnostic...
then around $250+shipping to fix if it is color wheel...
Is there any way to check, it powers up fine, some scenes on movies run ok after about ten minutes things get all blurry and look like crap.
Is this a hard part to replace, is it worth me getting this fixed for $500??
post #3372 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

Your post made me think Charles. I've got 7 months left on my warranty so it might be a good time to sell it on. The longer I wait the less it will be worth and I figure that with 7 months warranty it'll make the projector more attractive to potential buyers. It's a shame because I really do love my HD80. I'm having a really hard time though deciding on an upgrade.

I really liked my HD80 too. Now since I haven't replaced it yet I might change my mind once I do. Currently I have a Epson 8500UB and BenQ W6000 pre-ordered and I plan on taking a look at each before I decide. My current thinking is...

BenQ W6000

Brighter
Sharper
Iris issue (possible firmware fix)
One year warranty

Epson 8500UB

Quieter
More features (like CFI)
Better black level
Two year warranty (hot swap)

I'll need to mount the new projector closer to my seating than I did with the HD80 and I really want a quiet environment. I remember how nice it was when I demoed a few (quieter) projectors before I purchased the HD80. Also I have upgraded my audio components and would like to hear the audio's subtle nuisances.

If I had to live with what I ordered I figure the BenQ would be the safer bet since it's DLP. LCD scares me with its shading and convergence issues. I demoed the current at the time Panasonic and Epson models (several of each) when I purchased the HD80 and didn't find one I could live with which is the majority of the reason I purchased the HD80.

At today's level of performance and the high rate of depreciation I refuse to spend over $2,500 especially as I got burnt years ago with a high-end projector. I wonder if I could just get my old HD80 back and not have to worry about getting it replaced.
post #3373 of 3538
It's a dilemma, I agree. In the process of trying to find a suitable upgrade I've realised just what a cracking projector the HD80 has been for me. I did look at the BenQ W6000 but over here it's too expensive for me. We pay in pounds what you guys pay in dollars in spite of the preferential exchange rate, so in general consumer electronics are relatively expensive. I should note, however, that over here all BenQ projectors come with a 3 year warranty. I rang BenQ to specifically ask about that. I too am wary of LCD pjs so I've stayed clear of them. My own needs are complicated by my scope set up and with this also in mind there is really only a single DLP machine in my price range that will suit my set up - the HD82. I have no other choices. I would keep my HD80 if it wasn't for the warranty running out. As YoungW's post has demonstrated, just 5 days beyond the warranty and he has expensive problems to fix. I don't fancy that situation.

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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

I really liked my HD80 too. Now since I haven't replaced it yet I might change my mind once I do. Currently I have a Epson 8500UB and BenQ W6000 pre-ordered and I plan on taking a look at each before I decide. My current thinking is...

BenQ W6000

Brighter
Sharper
Iris issue (possible firmware fix)
One year warranty

Epson 8500UB

Quieter
More features (like CFI)
Better black level
Two year warranty (hot swap)

I'll need to mount the new projector closer to my seating than I did with the HD80 and I really want a quiet environment. I remember how nice it was when I demoed a few (quieter) projectors before I purchased the HD80. Also I have upgraded my audio components and would like to hear the audio's subtle nuisances.

If I had to live with what I ordered I figure the BenQ would be the safer bet since it's DLP. LCD scares me with its shading and convergence issues. I demoed the current at the time Panasonic and Epson models (several of each) when I purchased the HD80 and didn't find one I could live with which is the majority of the reason I purchased the HD80.

At today's level of performance and the high rate of depreciation I refuse to spend over $2,500 especially as I got burnt years ago with a high-end projector. I wonder if I could just get my old HD80 back and not have to worry about getting it replaced.
post #3374 of 3538
Can anyone help me with locating a color wheel for this projector.
The gentleman who set up my theatre said he would put it in for free for me...
Now just need to locate one...
Appreciate all the help!
This forum rocks!!
post #3375 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

I too am wary of LCD pjs so I've stayed clear of them.

Based on performance within the price range I want to spend I think it's hard to avoid them. So I'm willing to pay a little more to ensure a good return policy. With the Epson I'll have 30-days without any lamp limits to see if I can live with it. Same with the BenQ if I decide to give it a try.
post #3376 of 3538
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Originally Posted by youngw View Post

Can anyone help me with locating a color wheel for this projector.
The gentleman who set up my theatre said he would put it in for free for me...
Now just need to locate one...
Appreciate all the help!
This forum rocks!!

Are you sure it's the color wheel? Did you open the pj up to check?
post #3377 of 3538
I figure I'd give the HD80 owner's an update on my projector search. Right now I'm trying an Epson 8500UB... which is LCD and its claim to fame is its black level. I acquired a second unit as the convergence was really bad on the first. I had a BenQ W6000 delivered but the lamp was damaged during shipping so it wouldn't power up. So far I'm giving up on it since one of my main goals was to greatly reduce the projector's noise.

Tonight I spent a couple of hours and here's my general impression. Is it a worthwhile upgrade over the HD80? Yes and no. I figure it's roughly twice the cost of the HD80 (its current value) and I certainly would take the 8500UB in virtually every category. It's just a matter of are the differences enough for you to justify the additional cost.

When I fired up Crank (chapter 8 or so) my favorite test material my first thought was this looks familiar... no real difference. As bad as the HD80 black level is they didn't jump out at me instantly while watching mixed contrast scenes. However after a few minutes you begin to see the depth the much lower black levels create.

I was surprised with the following:
  • It's much brighter than the HD80.
  • When the screen turns almost completely dark it's startling enough that your eyes have to adjust to the dark.
  • The image is actually sharper than the HD80 (being a 3 panel LCD).
  • The image appears more detailed and smoother than with the HD80. As an example skin tones appear more real (textured yet less grain).
General impressions:
  • The 8500UB lens appears to have less chromatic abrasion.
  • In Eco mode (low lamp) the projector is less noisy than my HVAC.
  • Both images compare nicely until you begin to display dark images then there is no contest.
  • The HD80 probably has more naive ANSI CR but the 8500UB has two detail enhancements (one being contrast) that give it that DLP look.
Overall:

I'd say you get your fair share of two generations of improvements with the 8500UB and it exceeds the HD80 in virtually any category you can name. However the HD80 still puts out a great image and even after seeing the newer generations it's an image most will still be happy with. Especially since it won't cost you anything. If you do pay for an upgrade I doubt anyone would think the money wasn't well spent.
post #3378 of 3538
I had a demo of the HD82(00) and Panasonic AE4000 at a dealer yesterday. I chose the HD82 which seemed to me to put out a more vibrant image. The colours looked more saturated too. I rarely noticed the working of the iris on the HD82 - not enough to bother me. The Panny projected a very nice image too but I just felt it was lacking something in comparison - something commented on too by the dealer. Neither projector had been calibrated so, who knows whether my decision would have been different in this respect. What I did particularly like about the HD82 was it's quietness compared to the HD80! I sat right beside it and could barely hear it. Lens shift and the shorter throw lens are a big plus on the HD82 as well, although nowhere near as convenient as that on an LCD pj like the AE4000. So now I need to put my HD80 will be put up for sale.
post #3379 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

The Panny projected a very nice image too but I just felt it was lacking something in comparison - something commented on too by the dealer. Neither projector had been calibrated so, who knows whether my decision would have been different in this respect.

Based on your taste I'd guess it was a lack of pop (ANSI CR). The PT-AE4000U like the 8500UB offers a couple of features that can help in this area. Art at projectorreviews.com stated when used they transformed both into the same sharpness/contrast arena as the BenQ W6000 (typical DLP look). The Panasonic is fairly dim especially compared to the HD8200 so I'm sure it would look extremely flat comparing them one right after the other.
post #3380 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Based on your taste I'd guess it was a lack of pop (ANSI CR). The PT-AE4000U like the 8500UB offers a couple of features that can help in this area. Art at projectorreviews.com stated when used they transformed both into the same sharpness/contrast arena as the BenQ W6000 (typical DLP look). The Panasonic is fairly dim especially compared to the HD8200 so I'm sure it would look extremely flat comparing them one right after the other.

I think you're probably right. In any case, I made my decision and bought the HD82 and have it sitting right next to me as I type - just begging to be hoisted to the ceiling!
post #3381 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Canary_Jules View Post

I think you're probably right. In any case, I made my decision and bought the HD82 and have it sitting right next to me as I type - just begging to be hoisted to the ceiling!

Congratulations! Reportedly it's a killer projector all the way around. Especially in that DLP punch with great blacks to boot. I'm still going to take a look at one more projector before I decide anything... I figure I'll be keeping this projector even longer than I kept the HD80 (2 1/2 years) so I better check all of my options before I jump.
post #3382 of 3538
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Originally Posted by Charles R View Post

Congratulations! Reportedly it's a killer projector all the way around. Especially in that DLP punch with great blacks to boot. I'm still going to take a look at one more projector before I decide anything... I figure I'll be keeping this projector even longer than I kept the HD80 (2 1/2 years) so I better check all of my options before I jump.

I plan on putting it up tonight. After that it'll be a little while before I can properly calibrate it. But once I have done I'll post my impressions. Good luck on your search.
post #3383 of 3538
Hey folks ... haven't been around in a while so I thought I would pop in ..

My HD80 just went back to Optoma for the 5th time in 2 years .. same thing again shutting down after 1 - 15 mins .. lamp light comes on with no warning. Its been strobeing between 16bit color and black and white. Was sent to Optoma 2 months ago for this same issue and it came back "No Fault Found" ... I plugged it in and checked the Bulb timer .. and it was at 0 ... hmmm did they reset it ? Did they replace the bulb ? Each time ( over the last 2 years ) that it has gone back to optoma .. it has come back 0. With still a year left on the warranty ( bought extended for it at time of purchase ( Thankful now !! ) So hopefully they will fix it right or give me a new one !! lol Hey a guy can HOPE !!!

Adding up all the time that its been at optoma over the past 2 years ... and it looks pretty close 9 months !! .. Geesh ... might have to look at a different PJ after this one REALLY gives up the ghost ( after warranty of course )

Cheers all ... anyone else having issues similar to mine ?

B
post #3384 of 3538
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Originally Posted by ANIM8R68 View Post

Hey folks ... haven't been around in a while so I thought I would pop in ..

My HD80 just went back to Optoma for the 5th time in 2 years .. same thing again shutting down after 1 - 15 mins .. lamp light comes on with no warning. Its been strobeing between 16bit color and black and white. Was sent to Optoma 2 months ago for this same issue and it came back "No Fault Found" ... I plugged it in and checked the Bulb timer .. and it was at 0 ... hmmm did they reset it ? Did they replace the bulb ? Each time ( over the last 2 years ) that it has gone back to optoma .. it has come back 0. With still a year left on the warranty ( bought extended for it at time of purchase ( Thankful now !! ) So hopefully they will fix it right or give me a new one !! lol Hey a guy can HOPE !!!

Adding up all the time that its been at optoma over the past 2 years ... and it looks pretty close 9 months !! .. Geesh ... might have to look at a different PJ after this one REALLY gives up the ghost ( after warranty of course )

Cheers all ... anyone else having issues similar to mine ?

B

I had it once. It came back from service without replacing the lamp as they suggested and miraculously started working again flawlessly . I had no problem since then, more than a year ago, but now I use my PJ just once a week to watch a movie. For gaming I use a Pioneer Kuro 60" KRP-600M . So no lamp wasted on gaming as in the old times .
post #3385 of 3538
I got my HD80 in August 2007. It never had to go back to Optoma. Worked pretty flawlessly until 2 months ago when the component input stopped working. Even though it is still under (extended) warranty I didn't bother having it serviced. I just routed all signals to hdmi via the receiver. I use the pj no more than 10 hrs/week for movies and hockey.

I really like the DLP pop on this thing. Sure I can use better black level but my HT/rec room is not an optimal environment to support that any way - so no upgrade plan for me yet.
post #3386 of 3538
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Originally Posted by rickster904 View Post

Worked pretty flawlessly until 2 months ago when the component input stopped working. Even though it is still under (extended) warranty I didn't bother having it serviced.

You might want to consider getting it fixed (while you can) for resell value?
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I really like the DLP pop on this thing. Sure I can use better black level but my HT/rec room is not an optimal environment to support that any way - so no upgrade plan for me yet.

I think the better blacks also come into play with non-caves. I noticed last night when I had my lights turned all the way up it was still very noticeable. The increased depth is still there.
post #3387 of 3538
Hi All

I have had an Optoma HD80 for about 2 yrs with no issues, great HD & impresses everyone that sees it. As the lamp life was nearing its end I noticed the picture starting to degrade slightly. Ghosting on the darker images & some pixilation on the very bright images. I have since replaced the lamp but the picture has continued to degrade even more. I have played with the settings, contrast, brightness, iris, gamma etc but still no luck. Any ideas? All help is appreciated.

Mike
post #3388 of 3538
In realworld terms the two models are nearly identical as far as brightness.
post #3389 of 3538
Greetings, HD80 folks. I've encountered what I think is a problem that several have had, and as far as I can tell the only solution is to RMA it to Optoma, but figured I'd check here just in case. I purchases in July 2007 so it's definitely out of wty.

A couple of weeks ago, the HD80 started auto powering off whenever it lost the HDMI signal due to switching sources, or for example my PS3 switching modes. The first time it happened I assumed that I had sat on my remote or something, but then it happened minutes later. Since then, it mostly won't stay on; I did manage to get it to stay on while watching from my DirecTV DVR and staying strictly on that.

I've had it connected to an APC J15 UPS/power protector, so it's been pretty well protected in terms of power. The bulb should be under 1000 hours - last I checked it was in the 800 something range. All inputs run over a single HDMI cable from an Onkyo TX-NR905. I did have another problem with it a few months after purchase, with the inverted pixels along the edge of high contrast sections like credits, but removing power overnight cleared that up. Removing power overnight hasn't made a difference here. I also turned it on with no HDMI connected, and it powered off after maybe 15-20 seconds.

Interestingly, I have had a similar issue with a couple of Blu-ray players. A cheap Samsung I got on sale as a secondary player, BDP-1590, also kept powering off. A new Sony BDP-N460 briefly had the same issue. That made me wonder if there is an HDMI or HDCP issue somewhere. Since I bought the Sony from Crutchfield, I called and talked to a tech there and he thought that it could definitely be an HDMI signal type issue, maybe even a cable. (That's what led me to powering on the HD80 with no HDMI attached.) I rechecked the HDMI connections on the Onkyo, and haven't seen it reoccur with the Sony. (Nice little BD player with a ton of internet video options, btw.)
post #3390 of 3538
Hi Paul - I had the same issue. I sent it back, and they claimed they couldn't replicate it in their testing. Deeply frustrating, since it did it every time. When it came back, it was fixed. My guess: they upgraded firmware or somesuch before working on it, and that fixed the problem. When they put it on the test bench, the problem was gone. Either way, the projector works fine now.

Nestor
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