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post #211 of 397
I dont have any problems either...
post #212 of 397
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Originally Posted by webmonkey44 View Post

Disc rot is always a pest. Discs even starting to rot like that so early is a serious indications of problems.

There's nothing to suggest this is an inherent flaw. Could just be a bad application of the coating, contamination, etc.
post #213 of 397
First post with my Nintendo DS browser... w00t! Anyway...

I just checked my copy of The Prestige which I purchased and opened last night (Best Buy). Nothing to report yet but the codes.

BVDL-006620A1
7
IFPI L322
AO1
BVDL-006620B1
2
IFPI-L322
AO4

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Originally Posted by slewis7 View Post

I bought mine a few months ago and played it once soonafter with no issues. Last week, I tried watching it and it would freeze on my PS3.

Sorry, but when it comes to the PS3 and freezing BD movies, the information is almost useless unless you demonstrate that you are aware of the wireless networking issue. Disable WiFi and report back. Thanks!
post #214 of 397
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post

Could also be simply FUD and not real. Never seen anything like it on my (over 60) Blu-ray discs.

So even the people that posted pictures are dishing FUD? Well it obviously must be since you and AaronSCH can't find anything on your discs. If you paid any attention at all you'd see in the pic that that you quoted that the pic wasn't "set up" to be some kind of FUD. If he did sprinkle or paint something on his disc the light refracted in his pic wouldn't be the way it would, it'd leave a secondary shadow and the light refracted wouldn't be a perfect line like it is.

Causing a huge stir over it saying that it's an inherrant flaw to all BDs is stupid and ignorant, however pretending that the problem doesn't exist is just as stupid and ignorant.
post #215 of 397
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Originally Posted by MaxDam77 View Post

Ok I just got home and it took me like 4 tries to finally be able to watch it but it freezes.
Here is the pic of my Prestige BD:


For a movie that was released 4 or 5 months ago, this is not normal.
post #216 of 397
I think it needs to be said, that this is not traditional rot. As can be clearly seen, the spotting occurs over the entire surface of the disc. Traditional media rot affects the recordable layer, oxidizing or otherwise decaying. As can be seen in the pics, the dots appear everywhere, including where there is no media layer. Hence, we should be able to agree the problem is not traditional rot, but more likely something gone amiss in the manufacturing process itself. Now, the pictures aren't the same as holding it, but it appears, to me, that the problems extends over the entirety of the disc. If someone can confirm that indeed the discoloration appears where there is no recordable media strata, then at least it can be determined not to be oxidation or decay of the recordable layer itself...

MEC2
post #217 of 397
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Originally Posted by Johnsteph10 View Post

So you're THE expert? Geez. If YOU don't see it must not be real. I'm sorry that I sent my disc back without checking with you and Aaron first.

I have never questioned the validity of all the reported problems so please refrain from mischaracterizing my comments. However, there are a few malcontents on AVS Forum that would like to see this as a larger problem and it simply isn't. Strangely, it only seems to exist among the members of AVS forum and few of those people have presented any shred of evidence. You can go to any numbrer of forums regarding home media and unfortunately AVS Forum is frequently cited as a place where rumor tends to run amok.

So of course I am quite skeptical. Home Theater Forum has two pages on this issue (oddly based on the reports from AVS Forum) and you have to do a thread search to find it. Nobody seems to have a rot problem over there. Hmmmm that's rather odd....

Once again, of the hundreds if not thousands of happy Blu-ray owners who visit AVS Forum daily there are maybe a handful of valid complaints ...maybe.

At this point I happen to believe it is mostly fiction. 'nuff said.
post #218 of 397
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Originally Posted by divianb View Post

For a movie that was released 4 or 5 months ago, this is not normal.

Look on top of the picture!
What is this blue line spreading from inside out over there?

I THINK THIS PICTURE IS FAKE!
post #219 of 397
No such disc rot on my copy of "The Prestige" or any of the other 48 titles I own...
post #220 of 397
Right, I'm certainly no expert, or scientist.

But if you look at that picture, a few things are clear.

It's not traditional disc rot that we've seen in the past on CDs, DVDs, etc. That past rot appears to be a reaction of 'something' (the atmosphere, label glue, etc) with the metallic shiny disc.

It looks to me like, whatever is going wrong, it's with the clear plastic, or a coating on it.

That's if the picture isn't a fake (I've no reason to believe either way on that).

Steve W
post #221 of 397
i wish people would stop referring to whatever is in those pictures as 'bit rot'. it can't be that since it's not confined to the metal substrate. the dots appear on the clear portions of the plastic even where there IS no substrate, so this can't be classic bit rot. looks like someone spilled something on it, or it was a manufacturing glitch.
post #222 of 397
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Originally Posted by Dave-Blu-Ray View Post

Look on top of the picture!
What is this blue line spreading from inside out over there?

I THINK THIS PICTURE IS FAKE!


LOL! Fake or not it is really making me want to run up to the donut store and buy myself a donut sprinkled with sugar.
post #223 of 397
My Pearl Harbor disc is showing a few similar spots....I've only played it once on my PS3 and it seems to skip every 5-10 minutes or so....i hope it doesn't get any worse.

Anyone else having disc rot with Pearl Harbor?


Is it only on Disney BD'S?
post #224 of 397
This thread is so going to be closed down...
post #225 of 397
I've seen a similiar problem years ago on a DVD, it had just a few spots near the outer edge (Queer as Folk, british series 2) I had to get like 4 replacements from the online store ebfore I got one that played uninterrupted, at least to the credits, before locking up and then the player just stopping.... I don't know if it was rot or not. Never noticed issues with my laserdiscs (only have less than 20, and haven't viewed them in years).

I agree it appears to be something besides the actual "rot" that is described on laserdiscs. This looks more like glue problem (not completely mixed epoxy maybe), air bubbles, or something else.

Everyone just be sure to check all your HD titles for the issue, get them exchanged if you find it. They can likely determine the cause so as to prevent it on future releases. I do not own any blu-ray discs, but I am going to go double check all my HD DVD's, who knows.
post #226 of 397
Is there a tally of how many people have reported this disc rot so far?
And if so is there a list of which movies/studios it is affecting?
Is it geared to single/dual layer discs or studio?
post #227 of 397
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if you don't have any facts to post here, then please move on
post #228 of 397
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Originally Posted by egcarter View Post

My rotted laserdiscs (and I had a great many of them, which were replaced) never showed any physical signs of distress. It was only when they were played that one could see that there was a problem.

I have a 'rotted' CD (Robert Cray - Strong Persuader) that has very clearly visible deterioration in sections. It looks somewhat like a bacterial growth pattern, darkening the metallic layer in large sections. However, I would agree that the posted picture here doesn't have the same sort of appearance.....
post #229 of 397
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Originally Posted by Newport Peter View Post

My Pearl Harbor disc is showing a few similar spots....I've only played it once on my PS3 and it seems to skip every 5-10 minutes or so....i hope it doesn't get any worse.

Anyone else having disc rot with Pearl Harbor?


Is it only on Disney BD'S?

As I stated once before

"when it comes to the PS3 and freezing BD movies, the information is almost useless unless you demonstrate that you are aware of the wireless networking issue. Disable WiFi and report back. Thanks!"

The PS3 will frequently lock up during Blu-Ray playback, sometimes resuming a few seconds later in the movie after waiting a much longer time. Disabling the Internet connection fixes this. It seems to occur when the PS3 searches for an update.
post #230 of 397
You guys,

spots like that appear on blu ray, as well as on normal CD when the discs are exposed to forms of alcohols (cologne, house cleaning liquids, etc.)

So someone at the print shop either contaminated the CDs with cologne by being careless or cleaning, or the owners of some CDs are scamming the company that prints them because their dumbasses put on cologne near them.

Replies at: orangz@gmail.com

-ALX
post #231 of 397
Some answers some questions above.

This is not rot like in the laserdisc days. It is not eating into the aluminum substrate. In fact most cases of DVD 'rot' were not rot either they were "delamination" where the two layers separate, giving the appearance of coffee stains inside the disc where the two layers are no longer stuck together.

This new 'rot' is something different and unique to Blu-ray and is not traditional rot or delamination. It seem to occur beneath the protective coating, above the aluminum substrate. It is present all across the playing surface out on to the outside clear plastic centre ring, but not onto the very centre ring.

This is all HOPEFULLY just a few batches of a few runs. But the issue should be understood fully and the information made available to people - especially since the discs are fine initially and go bad over time.

Something one poster asked a couple of pages back has me worried. They asked if the discs need to be played to exhibit the problem. I thought I had played both my Prestige and Stranger than Fiction (and only my Stranger is affected) but then realised that I have only played my Stranger than Fiction, so I am going to run my Prestige through once to make sure that the heat/light of the laser doesnt kick the process off.
post #232 of 397
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Originally Posted by chuckamuck View Post

No such disc rot on my copy of "The Prestige" or any of the other 48 titles I own...

Same here. I'm not an expert but I do know that pic would be very easy to fake.
post #233 of 397
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Originally Posted by nyg View Post

Same here. I'm not an expert but I do know that pic would be very easy to fake.

I'm remaining skeptical of this whole thing until I see some "physical" proof, which I suspect will not be occurring. Meanwhile, I'm keeping the "disc rot" stories in the same category as "abducted by space aliens" stories; stories that I don't believe just because somebody says so on the internet. Particularly when those somebodies have what appears to be agendas by their historical postings.

I'm not going to waste my time running off to Roswell to check out stories. Of course, I could eventually be proven wrong and convinced that the US government and Sony have been engaging in a massive coverup. The coverup must include agents slipping into my house when I'm sleeping and replacing my discs as they begin to rot -- since my over 60 BDs remain in pristine condition.
post #234 of 397
Just checked my Prestige disc and to my dismay, it has the spots. Not nearly as bad as the one's pictured in this thread, and it still plays (didn't watch the whole thing, but the first 30mins or so worked). I have about 40 other titles, and this is the only disc with this problem.
post #235 of 397
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post

I could eventually be proven wrong and convinced that the US government and Sony have been engaging in a massive coverup. The coverup must include agents slipping into my house when I'm sleeping and replacing my discs as they begin to rot.

Think I saw that episode of the X-Files...
post #236 of 397
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post

I'm remaining skeptical of this whole thing until I see some "physical" proof, which I suspect will not be occurring. Meanwhile, I'm keeping the "disc rot" stories in the same category as "abducted by space aliens" stories; stories that I don't believe just because somebody says so on the internet. Particularly when those somebodies have what appears to be agendas by their historical postings.

Agreed. If there actually is BD rot I'm quite certain it's only a limited bad pressing as it's clearly not widespread. If it were, they're be countless threads about it in the HD DVD areas.
post #237 of 397
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Originally Posted by whippersnapper View Post

I'm remaining skeptical of this whole thing until I see some "physical" proof, which I suspect will not be occurring. Meanwhile, I'm keeping the "disc rot" stories in the same category as "abducted by space aliens" stories; stories that I don't believe just because somebody says so on the internet. Particularly when those somebodies have what appears to be agendas by their historical postings.

I'm not going to waste my time running off to Roswell to check out stories. Of course, I could eventually be proven wrong and convinced that the US government and Sony have been engaging in a massive coverup. The coverup must include agents slipping into my house when I'm sleeping and replacing my discs as they begin to rot -- since my over 60 BDs remain in pristine condition.


Hey whippersnapper, if you want 'proof' so much and you are willing to pay postage costs from Australia, I am more than happy to send you my affected "Stranger than Fiction" when I receive my replacement from Amazon. If not, the offer stands to anyone else who has to prove it to themselves, and who will pay for postage.
post #238 of 397
Yep, we're all being paid off by HD-DVD supporters to fabricate this. Grab your tin foil caps!

In all seriousness, I do agree it's probably limited to a few bad pressings and not worth getting our panties in a wad over. However, to imply that multiple AVS forum members (most of which happen to be avid blu-ray supporters) are making this up is just absurd.
post #239 of 397
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Originally Posted by sgt View Post

Yep, we're all being paid off by HD-DVD supporters to fabricate this. Grab your tin foil caps!

In all seriousness, I do agree it's probably limited to a few bad pressings and not worth getting our panties in a wad over. However, to imply that multiple AVS forum members (most of which happen to be avid blu-ray supporters) are making this up is just absurd.

It´s absurd but i think it´s expected considering the number of PR spins,lies and general ******** that has been spread regarding both formats. Both from industry insiders on this board and us, the HT freaks.

This "news" is already on several other "news" sites and will be used by any supporters of the "other" format to spread bad news about Blu-Ray.

Until we see hard data i also question how serious this problem is, if it´s a general format problem then we have a problem, if not, it´s back to the retailer for a new disc.
post #240 of 397
Same BS happen with Laser Discs, CDs and DVDs... For the most part it was limited to bad pressings, hell I think I still have CDs from the 80s that still play fine..... LOL Nice BS post.....

tin foil caps..... LOL now that is funny!
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