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post #181 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Joey Cusack View Post

What terrible news this is!! I don't know what to do now! This "bowing" sounds waaaaaay worse than previously stated yo!

Is there any other tv type that I could buy that can compare to the samsung DLPs (besides plasmas and CRTs) ?

Is the sharp aquos any good?

Screw the sharp aquos. The best rated LCD screen out there is the Samsung LN-T4665F. This TV just kicks ass. Only problem is they were having issues with the originally shipped circuit boards that were in them. The HDMI was losing signal on them, and people were getting pink flashes on the screen. This was all resolved by replacing the firmware and boards with the 1028 or 1024 firmware patch and replacing the board with the 1008 model. The LN-T4665F's that are being made in June will have this change. I would wait to July to be shore that you are getting the new crop.

****As for the DLP HL-TXX76S's, I just got off the phone with their Teir 2 Tech. I talked to them aboutthe problem and they said they have resolved it. I told them that the tech had know clue what to do with the problem, and they responded that they have just found the fix recently. The problem lies not with screen, but yes the dreaded mirrors that are located on top of the TV. He explained that the fix is an adjustment of the mirrors(which a lot of us have had) and then an extra screw is placed in the mirrors. He said that this extra screw will flatten it out perfectly. I hope someone on this forum who is having a tech come and fix the bowing issue lets him know of this. The Tier 2 tech said if the Tech that comes out does not know of this fix, tell him to call Samsung's Tier 2. 1-800-SAMSUNG and then ask for Tier 2.

I then asked him if Samsung is doing this fix in house so that future buyers won't have to have tech visits. He said yes and that this has been implemented since the fix was found. Who knows when they will hit the shelves. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU ALL MAKE YOUR CHOICES. I might just go with the 5076S again and just have the tech come out and fix it, but I would like to see someone who already has the TV to have the Tech come out and put this new fix to the test.
post #182 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Joey Cusack View Post

What terrible news this is!! I don't know what to do now! This "bowing" sounds waaaaaay worse than previously stated yo!

Is there any other tv type that I could buy that can compare to the samsung DLPs (besides plasmas and CRTs) ?

Is the sharp aquos any good?

From what I've read and heard the Aquos is a good set. However, I wouldn't get too worked up over the bowing issues that you see reported here. You have to remember that the majority of owners either don't have the bowing problems or don't look for them and therefore don't notice them. This board is useful for finding problems and possible solutions, but no so valuable as a method of testing the reliablity of different sets. I think if you read the threads for other sets you'll see that every one of them has one potential problem or another.
post #183 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Joey Cusack View Post

I don't know what I am going to do if I can't et a 1080p samsung dlp...I mean its all I want.

"You may find that wanting is more pleasurable than having. It is not logical, but it is often so." ... Spock, "Amok Time"

Sorry, just couldn't resist.
post #184 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Muffdiever View Post

Screw the sharp aquos. The best rated LCD screen out there is the Samsung LN-T4665F. This TV just kicks ass. Only problem is they were having issues with the originally shipped circuit boards that were in them. The HDMI was losing signal on them, and people were getting pink flashes on the screen. This was all resolved by replacing the firmware and boards with the 1028 or 1024 firmware patch and replacing the board with the 1008 model. The LN-T4665F's that are being made in June will have this change. I would wait to July to be shore that you are getting the new crop.

****As for the DLP HL-TXX76S's, I just got off the phone with their Teir 2 Tech. I talked to them aboutthe problem and they said they have resolved it. I told them that the tech had know clue what to do with the problem, and they responded that they have just found the fix recently. The problem lies not with screen, but yes the dreaded mirrors that are located on top of the TV. He explained that the fix is an adjustment of the mirrors(which a lot of us have had) and then an extra screw is placed in the mirrors. He said that this extra screw will flatten it out perfectly. I hope someone on this forum who is having a tech come and fix the bowing issue lets him know of this. The Tier 2 tech said if the Tech that comes out does not know of this fix, tell him to call Samsung's Tier 2. 1-800-SAMSUNG and then ask for Tier 2.

I then asked him if Samsung is doing this fix in house so that future buyers won't have to have tech visits. He said yes and that this has been implemented since the fix was found. Who knows when they will hit the shelves. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU ALL MAKE YOUR CHOICES. I might just go with the 5076S again and just have the tech come out and fix it, but I would like to see someone who already has the TV to have the Tech come out and put this new fix to the test.

Thanks for calling and following up! That's great that they (claim to have) found a fix. I wasn't planning on buying a TV for at least a month, maybe 2, so by then, the new design (extra screw) should be the ones being sold. I hope!
post #185 of 1965
we'll see just got off phone with Tier 2 and they said nuthin of this...Getting a call back this afternoon from tech, lets see if they contacted him
post #186 of 1965
so the bowing can be fixed with another screw for the mirror? why the hell didn't they just do that in the first damn place?
post #187 of 1965
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Originally Posted by evilklown View Post

we'll see just got off phone with Tier 2 and they said nuthin of this...Getting a call back this afternoon from tech, lets see if they contacted him


I believe with them it is sometimes how you present it to them. I've talked to people who want me to describe what bowing is, and others who are on the up and up. I asked the guy why the tech wouldn't know this, and he said it has been very recent of a fix and that unless the tech has been reading up on the forum ,or in contact with Samsung about it as of recently, that he wouldn't know....go figure
post #188 of 1965
LMAO,we are on forefront of the fix, how weird,SAMSUNG owes us...I want a HD DVD player
post #189 of 1965
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Originally Posted by evilklown View Post

LMAO,we are on forefront of the fix, how weird,SAMSUNG owes us...I want a HD DVD player

no you don't you want a blu ray player
post #190 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Muffdiever View Post

Screw the sharp aquos. The best rated LCD screen out there is the Samsung LN-T4665F. This TV just kicks ass. Only problem is they were having issues with the originally shipped circuit boards that were in them. The HDMI was losing signal on them, and people were getting pink flashes on the screen. This was all resolved by replacing the firmware and boards with the 1028 or 1024 firmware patch and replacing the board with the 1008 model. The LN-T4665F's that are being made in June will have this change. I would wait to July to be shore that you are getting the new crop.

****As for the DLP HL-TXX76S's, I just got off the phone with their Teir 2 Tech. I talked to them aboutthe problem and they said they have resolved it. I told them that the tech had know clue what to do with the problem, and they responded that they have just found the fix recently. The problem lies not with screen, but yes the dreaded mirrors that are located on top of the TV. He explained that the fix is an adjustment of the mirrors(which a lot of us have had) and then an extra screw is placed in the mirrors. He said that this extra screw will flatten it out perfectly. I hope someone on this forum who is having a tech come and fix the bowing issue lets him know of this. The Tier 2 tech said if the Tech that comes out does not know of this fix, tell him to call Samsung's Tier 2. 1-800-SAMSUNG and then ask for Tier 2.

I then asked him if Samsung is doing this fix in house so that future buyers won't have to have tech visits. He said yes and that this has been implemented since the fix was found. Who knows when they will hit the shelves. HOPE THIS HELPS YOU ALL MAKE YOUR CHOICES. I might just go with the 5076S again and just have the tech come out and fix it, but I would like to see someone who already has the TV to have the Tech come out and put this new fix to the test.

Well, this is surely good news!

Thanks for looking so deeply into this since DLPs is really have grown to love.

by the time I finally get the money the fixed ones should be on shelves.
post #191 of 1965
WOW! no update! dang I'm impatient.

Hey guys after reading this little short story of my quest to get my first HDTV I would like to answer this question..

Do I have the right to be getting impatient?

I realized I needed a HDTV to get the most outta my 360 when I bought it in December 06. My father said he would get me a HDTV. By February we decided on a DLP and my dad said he would use the tax returns to buy the tv, but being his different businesses and what have you there were MANY unrecorded receipts scattered about. So I started recording the receipts for him and he paid me to do it.

It is now june 22nd I have had all his receipts recorded from all the way back January 06 to EVEN June 22nd 07. Mind you I have had these done for like 2 months now.

BUT all this time him wont do the final tallying up of the receipts. JUST wont. Wont let me do it either.

Do I have the right to be getting impatient?

Don't get me wrong because I realize when its all said it done my wait will be well worth it and I will be VERY fortunate to be a 17 year old with a 56" dlp and home theater system in my bedroom. I just wish it had not taken this long. I have been waiting a half of a year!
post #192 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Joey Cusack View Post

WOW! no update! dang I'm impatient.

Hey guys after reading this little short story of my quest to get my first HDTV I would like to answer this question..

Do I have the right to be getting impatient?

I realized I needed a HDTV to get the most outta my 360 when I bought it in December 06. My father said he would get me a HDTV. By February we decided on a DLP and my dad said he would use the tax returns to buy the tv, but being his different businesses and what have you there were MANY unrecorded receipts scattered about. So I started recording the receipts for him and he paid me to do it.

It is now june 22nd I have had all his receipts recorded from all the way back January 06 to EVEN June 22nd 07. Mind you I have had these done for like 2 months now.

BUT all this time him wont do the final tallying up of the receipts. JUST wont. Wont let me do it either.

Do I have the right to be getting impatient?

Don't get me wrong because I realize when its all said it done my wait will be well worth it and I will be VERY fortunate to be a 17 year old with a 56" dlp and home theater system in my bedroom. I just wish it had not taken this long. I have been waiting a half of a year!

"Have Patience for Impatience" >by Steven B. And also don't pose questions like this hear.
post #193 of 1965
Well got mine last night and got it up and running. Happy to report, it appears that I have no bowing issues. The picture is great, especially with not having all that much time to tweak it. I just went with those basic settings from another thread and it seems to be really nice. The set looks better in person. I was afraid of taking step back in PQ from my 57" Hitachi, but I glad to report this thing looks great. I am running Dish network HD and a samsung up converting DVD player. Sound quality sucks, but I never use the TV speakers anyway as every source I have goes right to my Yamaha.

So for you guys on the fence about this TV (like I was), here is a vote that says it looks great.

Also, is it possible I got one thats fixed already? The guy at CC said they just got these in and only had two.
post #194 of 1965
OK, it seems the "bowing" issue is being taken care of now. So lets look at the other aspects of this DLP HDTV.

How is the picture quality compared to the older HLS5687w?

Is the picture brighter or dimmer?
Overall better PQ, equal, or worse?
Apparently the sound quality is worse, am I right?


I notice on some HDTVs the color of blood in video games (like gears of war) looks more magenta or...just not like blood. The samsung LCDs however make the reds nearly perfect if not already perfect. How does this new DLP handle reds?

Any other PQ FAQs if you have the answers please tell me.
post #195 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Joey Cusack View Post

OK, it seems the "bowing" issue is being taken care of now. So lets look at the other aspects of this DLP HDTV.

How is the picture quality compared to the older HLS5687w?

Is the picture brighter or dimmer?
Overall better PQ, equal, or worse?
Apparently the sound quality is worse, am I right?


I notice on some HDTVs the color of blood in video games (like gears of war) looks more magenta or...just not like blood. The samsung LCDs however make the reds nearly perfect if not already perfect. How does this new DLP handle reds?

Any other PQ FAQs if you have the answers please tell me.


But I dont care because I have a Yamaha RX661 hooked up to mine.
post #196 of 1965
I am coming from another brand so I can't compare the older HL-S. I also have never cared about sounds quality, as they all suck. I go with a complete surround system instead. I am pretty sure from skimming the manual, you can adjust colors to whatever you want them to be. Green grasses, blue skies, etc. So you may be able to adjust the red to what you like. I will dig into this this weekend. If anybody has anything they want info on let me know I can try it out.
post #197 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Breathing Borla View Post

Well got mine last night and got it up and running. Happy to report, it appears that I have no bowing issues. The picture is great, especially with not having all that much time to tweak it. I just went with those basic settings from another thread and it seems to be really nice. The set looks better in person. I was afraid of taking step back in PQ from my 57" Hitachi, but I glad to report this thing looks great. I am running Dish network HD and a samsung up converting DVD player. Sound quality sucks, but I never use the TV speakers anyway as every source I have goes right to my Yamaha.

So for you guys on the fence about this TV (like I was), here is a vote that says it looks great.

Also, is it possible I got one thats fixed already? The guy at CC said they just got these in and only had two.

Please be positive that it is. You might not have seen if you never seen it before. Pull up your menu bar, and look at the edges ofthe menu bar at the end of the screen.....no sloping upwards whatsoever?? Please let us know. Also does it have a date of manufacturing on the box? Thanks
post #198 of 1965
I checked out the 6176S at CC last night on display. (At Sears last weekend, I saw the 5676S on display.) It definitely looks nice and I couldn't tell bowing from a college baseball game on ESPN HD they were showing. It was noticeably brighter than the Toshiba and Sony TVs next to it. The salesman said he likes the Sony TV better since it has a truer color. Also, the screen is more child resistant. (He banged on the Sony screen w/ his fist and nothing happened. But he said he wouldn't try that on a Samsung.) That said, I'm still keeping an eye on Samsung b/c its PQ looks really nice and I'm sure the "fake colors" can be calibrated nicely. I just hope that bowing fix really does fix the issue!
post #199 of 1965
from what I understand the samsungs just have an issue with reds cus aparently their red push is too strong. It's not so much that the colors are fake but that they are initially stronger than most other tv's.
post #200 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Muffdiever View Post

Please be positive that it is. You might not have seen if you never seen it before. Pull up your menu bar, and look at the edges ofthe menu bar at the end of the screen.....no sloping upwards whatsoever?? Please let us know. Also does it have a date of manufacturing on the box? Thanks

The menu bar for Dish or the menu bar for the TV? Which is worse on yours?

Also, I usually check ESPN when "the bottom line" is on. If that is perfectly straight at the bottom of the screen, then it is good as that is really easy to tell if there is a geometry issue.

almost forgot,

I will see if I can find a date of manufacturing on it.
post #201 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Muffdiever View Post

Please be positive that it is. You might not have seen if you never seen it before. Pull up your menu bar, and look at the edges ofthe menu bar at the end of the screen.....no sloping upwards whatsoever?? Please let us know. Also does it have a date of manufacturing on the box? Thanks


I was also having the thought, that If I could not notice it when I first installed it and was really looking at it closely, I don't know how much closer i want to look for an issue and drive myself crazy

That said I know it may help others, so I will see what I can find out and may even take some precise measurements with a tape measure.

Any other requests?

I am still wondering about the best way to calibrate this thing without paying 400 bucks for a pro or have most of you just adjusted to personnel tastes?
post #202 of 1965
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Originally Posted by Breathing Borla View Post

I was also having the thought, that If I could not notice it when I first installed it and was really looking at it closely, I don't know how much closer i want to look for an issue and drive myself crazy

That said I know it may help others, so I will see what I can find out and may even take some precise measurements with a tape measure.

Any other requests?

I am still wondering about the best way to calibrate this thing without paying 400 bucks for a pro or have most of you just adjusted to personnel tastes?

I have a white 1920x1080 image at home with a black outline at 90% and 80% of the image which could be used to check for bowing, position and overscan. Since this is a usb plug and play display I will upload the image here then everyone can just download it and check for the bowing issue. As far as calibration get a thx certified dvd like star wars episode 1-3 or a pixar thx certified dvd like cars and use the video tests to get the best out of the picture.
post #203 of 1965
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Originally Posted by OniMirage View Post

I have a white 1920x1080 image at home with a black outline at 90% and 80% of the image which could be used to check for bowing, position and overscan. Since this is a usb plug and play display I will upload the image here then everyone can just download it and check for the bowing issue. As far as calibration get a thx certified dvd like star wars episode 1-3 or a pixar thx certified dvd like cars and use the video tests to get the best out of the picture.


Great idea. Post the download and when I pick up my 3rd XX76 (Don't know which one yet) this weekend, I will check. I will then take some pictures and post the results on the thread...as we all should. It will help us.

Thanks
post #204 of 1965
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Originally Posted by OniMirage View Post

from what I understand the samsungs just have an issue with reds cus aparently their red push is too strong. It's not so much that the colors are fake but that they are initially stronger than most other tv's.

Yes, they're too bright by default. I'm sure calibration (either DIY or with an ISF expert) can make the picture look much more realistic.
post #205 of 1965
Here are the images the solid rectangles start at the edge with 100%, 90%, 80%,
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post #206 of 1965
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post10860507

So far my 76S has no bowing. It does stink a bit that you would expect from a new TV. The only thing I have done to date is to switch it to Movie mode, fix my OTA channels and add my inputs.
post #207 of 1965
My hl-t6176s has no bowing. I was no able to find a manufacturing date yet. the PQ blows my old hitachi away. I also did not buy the extra warranty yet
post #208 of 1965
is 1.3 confirmed on 6176?
post #209 of 1965
i am getting a 5076 as a replacement for my failed light engine hls5087....i was wondering if anyone could post some pics of the set..thanks
post #210 of 1965
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Originally Posted by DERG View Post

I've been reading this thread as well as the HL-Txx87-89S for some awhile & it's time to make a decision & I need some owner advise.
1st, this set will be used in a Great Room with lots of ambient light. My candidates are the Samsung HL-S5087W, HL-T5087S, HL-T5076S & Sony KDS-50A2020. I believe the only difference between the HL-S5087W & HL-T5076S is the HL-T5076S is slimmer. The HL-T5087S is LED & reading that thread has me concerned about its quality. The Sony KDS-50A2020 looks a little flat compared to the HL-S2087W I saw at BB. Pricewise the HL-T5087S (LED) is a little cheaper but can only be found on the internet.
So, all recommendations are welcome.

Thanks to all who responded.
I purchased my HL-T5076S from BB today on a price match with CC & will receive it 6-27-07. CC p___ed me off back when DVD was a new product & they came out with the now defunked DIVX DVD player. Every sence then I'll shop there, but never purchase there.
Anyway, BB had a HL-T6187S (LED) next to a HL-T5676S & I must admit that I was disapointed with the 87s picture. It seemed to have a red outline occasionally, that would disappear. Kind of like a convergence problem, even though that's not possible with a DLP set. In any event, it was enough warn me to not go for it.
I'll post again once I've got it up & running.
Thanks again.
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