Swan Owner's Thread - Page 63

Hello Swan owners, i'm in the market for some $700 towers, and i was wondering, would you guys choose the Swan Diva 4.1 or the Swan D2.1SE, and why?

the 4.1s as well as the 5.1 are no longer imported by TAI, the only floorstander still being imported is the 6.1... Now the .2 series is a different story

how much would the 4.2 or 5.2 pairs run me?

thanks a ton man.

i will definitely call him, but i'm curious would he lower prices and cut deals?

Cleveland, were you directing that post to me?

i would consider the 6.2, but i doubt i have the funds for those...

I wouldn't expect much discount on a single pair, especially not the 4.2s since they're already on sale.

Can someone explain the differences between the M6HT and the RM600HT speaker setups? The components seem similar, but the price doesn't. Cleveland, any input? Thanks

Hi, setting up my first audio sound system and I am as much confused as excited. My system is primarily for audio, room size is approx 4m by 9m, musical tastes indie, rock, funk and a little Jazz. My current dilema is which pair to go for. After digging through the net and listening to various brands at stores, I've decided to go for Swans (even though conventional wisdom says listen before you buy) Now I'm unsure which model of Swans to get, 5.1 or 5.2. How much of a difference in sound is there? I can get a pair of new 5.1 for US$370 or the 5.2 for US$692. Thats a big price difference. I must admit I much prefer the looks of the 5.2 and I think it has a higher wife acceptance value. The 5.1 is very tall. (But just to confuse myself even more I'm now concidering the 6.2.) Can I justify spending over $300 extra on the 5.2 when I've yet to get an amp and cables. One other thing I've noticed when looking at the spec is that the swanspeakers web site says frequency responce is 47hz-20khz for the 5.1 but 38hz (36 on audioinsider) - 20khz for the 5.2
Thanks for your advice and help.

What finish are the 5.1s? If they're BC, remember that is a faux vinyl finish... I still like the BC, but that may be part of the reason they're available at that price. If you're using a sub and you're fine with the finish, 5.1s for that price seem like an amazing value.

worf, where are the new 5.2's for that price?

Reaper are going to be using these for 2 CH or HT? What other equipment do you have? I can't believe there is some else here from Dubois PA.

I have heard the Swan 2.1SE several times but never the 5.1s. PM me.

They are in Hong Kong, the 5.1 are not black cherry finish and are the last pair in the place, that prob why they are cheaper, not inport tax etc etc. (most electricals are cheaper here plus the worlds workshop is just across the border, can see and smell it from my apartment)

Jon could comment, but aren't there differences in the crossovers used in the US Divas vs. the Asian Divas? Also, if you have access to a Swans dealer over there, I'd definitely be looking to see what kinds of deals could be had on the higher end models.

I would have never had thought there would be different drivers for the Asian market, if so why would they do this? Seems unfair. (without going into the ethics of it) I can't really afford the higher end models just yet, baby on the way and it's hard enough to keep the wife happy as it is, I daren't bring a pair of speakers bigger than the ones i'm looking at back. Just really want to know sound quality difference between 5.1 & 5.2 (and 6.2) Oh and the crossover thing.

Not different drivers... but I think there were some crossover tweaks made for the US market, dictated by the US distributor... I'm not sure if TAI made the changes, or if they were made earlier when AV123 was still the US distributor... or maybe it's a story aliens put in my brain, but I believe years back I remember this being discussed, either here or over at HomeTheaterForum before it pretty much died.

If my memory serves me correctly, when AV123 had the Swans line, the 5.1 was a 3 driver 2.5 way design, later when TAI had the line the 5.1 was redesigned as 4 driver 3 way design which in turn was renamed the 5.1F. The original design used the same drivers as the current 5.1F sans the 50mm dome midrange. Furthermore, I dont think were any x-over differences between the US and Asian models, however there was an obvious x-over redesign with the added dome midrange unit. The x-over plot on the 5.1F or the "original 5.2" was somewhere around 4khz and 1khz.

Was the original 5.1 a 3-driver 3-way, or a 3-driver 2-way? To make things even more confusing, I know the updated 5.1F was originally called the 5.2, before the redesigned x.2 line was released.

Our Divas have been designed jointly with Swan and have our specified voicing.

Was this done by TAI when they took over the line, or before by AV123? I ask more out of curiosity than anything else... regardless of who implemented the design, I know mine sound wonderful

Nicely done, sac8d4. The lineage of this model is this: Originally the Diva 5.1 was more or less a 2.1 with an added woofer and floorstanding cabinet. It was a 2.5-way, with staggered crossovers for the two otherwise identical 6.5" alloy midbass drivers: One extended to the tweeter's crossover point, the other did not.

TAI then introduced a taller, newer 5.1 with a dedicated dome midrange and configured as a true 3-way (the bass drivers now ran in parallel throughout their band) and for a time we called it a 5.2 so as to differentiate it from the original, discontinued 5.1. This 3-way model is now discontinued as well. Of the original Diva X.1 line, the 6.1, C3, and R3 live on, and the 2.1, 4.1, 5.1, R2, and C2 are discontinued, as is the Sub10.

With the advent of the current Diva X.2 range, we reverted the model to the original 5.1 naming, and allowed the 5.2 moniker to be reused for the completely new 5.2, which joins the 4.2, 6.2, and related centers and surround speakers.

It's nice to have some Swan historians out there to aid my memory...

It extends back over the entire life of the line, to my knowledge.

I didn't realize the 2.1 was discontinued as well... I'm sure margins must have been thin on this model, but it is/was a real jewel for smaller rooms and HT only listening. Are there any plans for a "2.2" or "3.2" model to fill the Diva bookshelf gap? Or would the pricing be too close to the D2.1SE and/or upcoming D1.1SE given the fact that there's no value finish option available in the x.2 line?

Also, any new news on that D1.1SE and matching center? When things calm down in a year or two, a 2.1SE/1.1SE/C.1SE system will hopefully be within my cross hairs. Need any beta listeners?

Agreed...and they're all thin, actually.


There are plans to optimize new ranges of product around Swan's and our core competencies, which may make extreme budget-leaders challenging. These days I'm concentrating on the TAI-exclusive D1.1se, the D1.1sec, the D2.1sec, the D4.1se, and the D5.1se, but we could alter plans at any point after the four smallest models and refocus our efforts on an alternate plan. Hard to say, but I'll keep the calls for a budget Swan 2-way line under advisement.


Always. I'd be honored to have you on our short list, Stephen. As to ETA, they're in the pipe and I anticipate late March to April timeframes. BTW, I had a long talk with Frank Hale just this week. Could be an interesting year...

A month or so back, I think Jon was talking about ordering some of the original Diva 2.1s in both finishes. I am also eagerly awaiting the .1 series mods Jon had been hinting about.

So the 6.1 is the only speaker I can buy as fronts to match with a C3?

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Correct.