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post #3361 of 3844
3/12/11 at 6:36pm
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Originally Posted by parkerj View Post

Call your dealer. Mine have worked flawlessly.

Is it the satellite speaker? Maybe it's the connector cable.

I shipped them but they found nothing wrong but when it was shipped back same problem would work then wouldn't. I was hoping it might be the connector but I think that type of connector i can only get thru swan.
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post #3362 of 3844
3/12/11 at 10:16pm
Not sure if they are still being sold new, sorry if this has been asked before.

jenkzy
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post #3363 of 3844
3/13/11 at 7:57am
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Originally Posted by jenkzy56 View Post

Not sure if they are still being sold new, sorry if this has been asked before.

jenkzy

Yes, but there aren't any in the country right now (they're on their way from China, to be here around April 1, according to The Audio Insider website).
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post #3364 of 3844
3/13/11 at 8:13am
This is probably a silly question, but with the Diva C3 only rated to handle up to 150 watts, would an amp rated to provide 190 watts RMS into 4 ohms potentially damage the speaker? I'm fairly certain the answer is "no," as I've seen lots of setup pics with owners using Emotiva XPA amps, but just looking for some reassurance.
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post #3365 of 3844
3/13/11 at 8:41am
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

This is probably a silly question, but with the Diva C3 only rated to handle up to 150 watts, would an amp rated to provide 190 watts RMS into 4 ohms potentially damage the speaker? I'm fairly certain the answer is "no," as I've seen lots of setup pics with owners using Emotiva XPA amps, but just looking for some reassurance.

I run a C3 as a rear surround thru a 200 w/ch Rotel amp. Since a center speaker's duty is limited to center/surround applications, you will never have very high output going to those channels, so no it's not a problem at all.
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post #3366 of 3844
3/13/11 at 8:51am
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Originally Posted by roadster-s View Post

I run a C3 as a rear surround thru a 200 w/ch Rotel amp. Since a center speaker's duty is limited to center/surround applications, you will never have very high output going to those channels, so no it's not a problem at all.

Thanks for the reply, roadster-s. That's what I figured, just needed to hear it from someone else.
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post #3367 of 3844
3/13/11 at 8:52am
Too bad there isn't a survey option on these threads. Anyhow, we very seldom read reviews on Swan speakers. Seems odd to me that a brand which offers such an incredible value isn't being reviewed more often by specialty magazines. The question deserves to be asked; why?

Having been a dedicated audiophile for the last 30 years, I can tell you they would put a ton of other manufacturers to shame. Of course, I'm referring here to brands that sell for 3 to 5 times the price of comparable Swans.
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post #3368 of 3844
3/13/11 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by roadster-s View Post
...Seems odd to me that a brand which offers such an incredible value isn't being reviewed more often by specialty magazines. The question deserves to be asked; why?
They review the brands that bring readers and advertising $$$.
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post #3369 of 3844
3/13/11 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by bumbabeef View Post
I shipped them but they found nothing wrong but when it was shipped back same problem would work then wouldn't. I was hoping it might be the connector but I think that type of connector i can only get thru swan.
Swap out one at a time all wires, connectors and sources to make sure it isn't something else in your set up. Call them back. Otherwise I don't know what to tell you.
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post #3370 of 3844
3/15/11 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by Tha_Doggg View Post

Does anyone have any experience with the Swan M-20W system? I can't seem to find much information on it and I was wondering if they're worth the upgrade from the M10's. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

This might help:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1284493

Brian
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post #3371 of 3844
3/15/11 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by caaalebbb View Post

how do the Swans do at low-ish listening volumes? particularly the D1080MkII08. (MUSIC: ambient/minimal/dubstep [James Blake], classical music, lo-fi pop [the Radio Dept], and a lot of for-lack-of-better-classification 'indie rock']

I'd be using them when I'm studying or reading and can't rock out on my RS-1s. not sure if I should spend the extra $100 and buy the Swans instead the Harman Kardon Soundsticks for my purposes (i like the Harman Kardons have a sub because I imagined speakers generally fall flatter at low volumes - though i could be wrong...)

not sure if I want to spend the extra money as nothing I buy speakers-wise will beat my RS-1s anyway. (my room is 9x11)

As my listening distance is about 2 - 2.5 feet I think that they sound great at low levels. I did add a Polk PSW111 sub to bring up the very bottom though.

My review of the D1080mkII08's is here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...6#post19882376
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post #3372 of 3844
3/16/11 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by kevin_mahaney View Post

This is probably a silly question, but with the Diva C3 only rated to handle up to 150 watts, would an amp rated to provide 190 watts RMS into 4 ohms potentially damage the speaker? I'm fairly certain the answer is "no," as I've seen lots of setup pics with owners using Emotiva XPA amps, but just looking for some reassurance.

Always better to overdrive with clean power ( Does not hurt a speaker, but back down power if you notice. ), then to underdrive and cause distortion. ( Will hurt / blow a speaker, back down power FAST! )

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Originally Posted by jwickers View Post

So, what's the deal with those speakers, SQ ? Seems you had them for a month now, i guess you had the time to get a proper listen ?

I will let the pro handle it, Chad B. Review to come !
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post #3373 of 3844
3/18/11 at 7:45am
Anyone here from Hong Kong? Anyone know of a HiVi dealer? Looking for a pair of T200b but seems difficult to obtain...
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post #3374 of 3844
3/18/11 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by clem View Post

Anyone here from Hong Kong? Anyone know of a HiVi dealer? Looking for a pair of T200b but seems difficult to obtain...

You mean you did not find : http://www.swanspeaker.com/dealers/dealers.aspx#3
http://www.hivi.com/sellnet_area.asp?area=852
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post #3375 of 3844
3/18/11 at 11:55am
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Originally Posted by jwickers View Post
We're contacting those next. Found a bunch of dealers of HiVi but no one has the T200b. Only the M200 series.

Newegg.com.cn also seems to have them in stock but unfortunately, they don't ship to HK!
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post #3376 of 3844
3/21/11 at 8:25am
We've called around to every place listed and no one has or can get the T200b...

Anyone have any leads whatsoever in HK? Anyone know of a place in Guangzhou? Shenzhen? It needs to be somewhere easily accessible...
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post #3377 of 3844
3/21/11 at 10:44am
If you don't find on their website, maybe you can order them from their taobao web store. I would think they can ship to HK.
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post #3378 of 3844
3/23/11 at 4:01pm
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Originally Posted by jwickers View Post

If you don't find on their website, maybe you can order them from their taobao web store. I would think they can ship to HK.

Hey thanks but it's too late for that.. I need to have them before the end of March.

I did get some new leads thanks to turbogti. Let's hope it turns out good!!! So strange to me that it is so difficult to find these in HK.
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post #3379 of 3844
3/24/11 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by 06S2k02Si View Post
Swan D1080MkII 08 Review

In looking for a set of cost effective desktop speakers (limiting myself to $200 at this time) to use for my PC listening & being that I wasn't yet completely set on what I wanted, I narrowed it down to the Swan D1080MkII 08's and the M-Audio AV40's. I decided to purchase both, compare them and send back the looser.

Shortly after the arrival of both sets and after only a few hours of break-in time for each, I initially started my listening session using a Sansa Clip+ as the source with well recorded tracks ripped at 320kbps (I went to CD's later as I wanted to see what kind of detail etc. could be extracted from a lesser quality source, CD's did sound better).

Upon listening I immediately noticed that the D1080MkII 08's had a much fuller sound than the AV40's, and were very smooth and detailed overall. They also had more midbass punch and a lower extending bottom end than the AV40's. There was also noticeably more micro detail in the Swans. For example, when listening to a cymbal's decay, the Swans have a much more realistic sound and feel to them than the M-Audio's. The AV40's did seem to be just a tad bit edgier in the highs, as well as the treble being a slight bit boosted in comparison. The lower crossover point in the Swans is easily heard particularly in female voices. Generally speaking the earlier one can bring in the tweeter the better. The D1080MkII 08's are also considerably less directional, in my opinion, as the AV40's seem to sound their best in the sweet spot and less so off axis (the AV40's drivers are very recessed within the enclosure that perhaps causes this). The bottom line...the AV40's are pretty good...but the D1080MkII 08's are quite a bit better. I can see how both of these speakers would benefit from a small sub though, as the bottom most octaves are just not there, but are still very enjoyable to listen to.

The Swan D1080MkII 08's are most definitely worth the little extra money! As an avid audio nut in general and do-it-yourself speaker builder, I highly recommend giving them a try; they are very surprising for the money! My wife would have not been real happy if I had spent any more money or I would have gone for the Swan 200Mk III's. If the D1080MkII 08's are this good I can only imagine what the 200Mk III's are like! Thanks to Swan/HiVi and The Audio Insider for a great productjob well done!

I've recently added a Polk PSW111 8" powered sub (now slightly modified) and a NuForce uDAC-2 into the mix and all just keeps getting better!

Brian
I also did a comparo between M-Audio BX5a, Audioengine A5's, and the Swan D1080MkII. I liked the Swans best for the same reasons you mentioned.
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post #3380 of 3844
3/29/11 at 10:41am
I am awaiting a pair of Swan D2.1SE+ Customs and would like recommendations on a set of stands. Does anyone have or have an opinion on the D-Stands from the audio insider website??? Any other suggestions? Sanus, VTI's? I would guess in the 21" to 24" range.

http://www.theaudioinsider.com/produ...products_id=44
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post #3381 of 3844
3/29/11 at 5:53pm
I have a pair of Swan M1.2's which are the same size volume wise as the D2.1's. I use this stand in black and it works great!

http://www.racksandstands.com/VTI-UF-VI1047.html
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post #3382 of 3844
3/29/11 at 8:22pm
Jon Lane said:

"My only concern is that since the Swan is parametrically the superior model per dollar, that if it's not proving itself as such that it's probably not set up at its best. We went through a lot of effort together trying to determine the best set up and I was never confident that you're hearing what you should. Truly integrating a subwoofer is a hard thing to do if one does not have a good deal of knowledge and experience.

"We'd be happy to cover this in detail with you. Important points include establishing a ripple-free transition between main speakers and the subwoofer, which requires careful attention to phase, slope of attenuation, and of course, frequencies. I can all but guarantee that the D1080MkII08 will prove the better system when integrated perfectly because it's parametrically lower in distortion."

Then when I called him to help me with this "complicated" set-up and integration, he said, " well most subs don't have a hi-pass output so all of your frequencies are going to the Swan's and it doesn't matter how you set them up with your sub"

So I guess it's good luck to me and it didn't really matter about getting his speakers vs. the other ones I tested.
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post #3383 of 3844
3/30/11 at 9:10am
Have any of you heard the Swans T1000 or T900? Cant find any review..
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post #3384 of 3844
3/31/11 at 8:20pm
Going to open up a can of worms here.

Does anyone have a picture or schematic of the crossovers in the Diva 6.1's?
Has anyone tried replacing the caps in the crossover with "boutique" caps? Did it make a difference in sound?
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post #3385 of 3844
4/1/11 at 3:28pm
Hi,

Today we have lot of new speakers. I have Polk Monitor 70, 60 and 30 speakers. I want to upgrade. I narrowed it down to these speakers.

1) Since I Had AV123 Rocket 850 signature, I am looking something similar to that. i.e Swan 6.1 towers. Around $1200 pair.
2) Deftech BP-8060 for smooth sound. Around $2000 pair
3) Martin Logan Electromotion ELS , Around $2000 pair
4)Golden ear Trinton tower speakers Around $2500 pair.

I am thinking of Swan 6.1 since its excellent value for money, but this technology is 8 to 9 years old. Does it still compare to these speakers?


Thanks,
Sam.
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post #3386 of 3844
4/1/11 at 9:53pm
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Originally Posted by SAM1233 View Post

Hi,

Today we have lot of new speakers. I have Polk Monitor 70, 60 and 30 speakers. I want to upgrade. I narrowed it down to these speakers.

1) Since I Had AV123 Rocket 850 signature, I am looking something similar to that. i.e Swan 6.1 towers. Around $1200 pair.
2) Deftech BP-8060 for smooth sound. Around $2000 pair
3) Martin Logan Electromotion ELS , Around $2000 pair
4)Golden ear Trinton tower speakers Around $2500 pair.

I am thinking of Swan 6.1 since its excellent value for money, but this technology is 8 to 9 years old. Does it still compare to these speakers?


Thanks,
Sam.

The Swans are good, it also looks like there using Dynaudio drivers in some of there speakers not sure on that but if they are they should sound good! I heard the Golden Ear at a local dealer, very nice, but the Imaging on the MLs was much better to my ears, of course the low end on the Trinton where better. But right now on am listening to the Electromotions and they are a great value for what you get, since they use the same panel as the Vantage and same crossover, very open very detailed. They sound almost as good as my Dynaudio C2's for a quarter of the cost.
LL
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post #3387 of 3844
4/2/11 at 7:14am
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Originally Posted by FrancisDemarte View Post

Does anyone have a picture or schematic of the crossovers in the Diva 6.1's?
Has anyone tried replacing the caps in the crossover with "boutique" caps? Did it make a difference in sound?

hayya, Al. hows it goin'

i used to have pics. but my computer ate them, really. idk wth happened to them

there was talk of upgraded x-overs a couple years ago. but it looks like that never panned out. the ones we have are pretty good, or, they figured not enough guys would buy em. idk
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post #3388 of 3844
4/2/11 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by FrancisDemarte View Post

Going to open up a can of worms here.

Does anyone have a picture or schematic of the crossovers in the Diva 6.1's?
Has anyone tried replacing the caps in the crossover with "boutique" caps? Did it make a difference in sound?

Try this post, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post11638105
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post #3389 of 3844
4/2/11 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by Fabricator View Post

there was talk of upgraded x-overs a couple years ago. but it looks like that never panned out. the ones we have are pretty good, or, they figured not enough guys would buy em. idk

I was wondering the same thing, however I know TAI had plans in offering upgraded x-overs in the Diva line, but introduced their upgrade for only the M1 and the D2.1 at this time.
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post #3390 of 3844
4/2/11 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by Garman View Post

The Swans are good, it also looks like there using Dynaudio drivers in some of there speakers not sure on that but if they are they should sound good! I heard the Golden Ear at a local dealer, very nice, but the Imaging on the MLs was much better to my ears, of course the low end on the Trinton where better. But right now on am listening to the Electromotions and they are a great value for what you get, since they use the same panel as the Vantage and same crossover, very open very detailed. They sound almost as good as my Dynaudio C2's for a quarter of the cost.

Thanks Garman.

I heard the electromotion in bestbuy but i am not that satisfied with its performance, sounded little muddy, where as the deftech 8060 was crystal clear and good soundstage and smooth.. thats my opinion.


Cleaveland sells Diva 6.1 and C3 speakers????
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