Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
Anyone either gotten something to replace their Diva 5.1's (the model not the 5.1 setup, although I have that too)? I'll be getting a two channel (99% music) only setup for our main living room downstairs at our new house. I'll put the current SWAN setup upstairs in the media room.
Anyone go to something else and recommend them over the Swan's? Anyone go to an different model Swan and recommend it?
I like the sound of these speakers a lot but there are some minor cosmetic gripes I have with them, that have me questioning what the rest of the Swan lineup is like?
Right now I'm leaning towards the KEF Q900's if I can't run a sub, or the KEF R500's if I can run a sub or perhaps the PSB T2's. The new house is going to be fairly nice so I need something that looks decent, but doesn't have to be stellar. Current Swan's have a lot of plastic on the top...which the new set is likely to not have because they probably won't have top mounted tweeters.
I had Swan 5.1's (I was too cheap for the 6.1's
) along with 2.1's, R2's and a C3. I have to agree about the best looking speakers in their price range, even the Black Cherry's like I had. The plastic tweeter housing and base did seem out of place but they had to save money somewhere. Had them for 5-6 years but it was time for a change.
I bought a well used pair of Swan F3B's off ebay just to hear what a hopefully better speaker sounded like and they were a pretty big improvement over the 5.1's for music. Probably wouln't have been much if any better than 6.1's but who knows. The F3B's are just as good looking as the Diva's and have a Hi-Vi RT1 ribbon tweeter mounted in the more usual front baffle so no top mount tweeter there. The F3B also uses a 5" midrange and the Hi-Vi D8.8 driver which is pretty good for a knock-off. The cabinet is curved and slanted on the front, is about 30 inches's tall and weight about 70 lbs a piece. They have a very smooth midrange compared to the 5.1's and much more bass output. I never felt the need for a sub when listenning to music. The openning sequence of the un-plugged version of Layla vibrated the house so much I had to turn the volume down. I recently sold the F3B's locally to a guy who has Dynaudio's and he was pretty impressed with them but they were not in the same league as they Dyno's. First of all, he's a soft dome tweeter fan and doesn't care for ribbons. He also felt they needed to be off the ground about a foot, which I agree with, and could use some more internal bracing. But they would be a nice Swan up-grade for two channel music if you can find a pair.
I replaced the Diva's with Revel Concerta's (F12's, M12's and C12) and they also had a smother midrange than the 5.1's and deeper bass output (not surprising) but not as deep as the F3B's. Nice cabinet finish (cherry) but Revel definently saved money on the cabinet and grill. Not nearly as attractive as the Diva's, but what are? Sold the Revels yesterday to free up cash, and space, for my next adventure. Currently have Polk Lsi 7's/LsiC and they're not bad at all. The center speaker is much better than I figured. But Fry's is selling the Lsi 7's for $299/pr now
so I might be stuck with these for a while. Good thing I like them.
There are many options to consider (depending on your budget) but those are a couple of models to consider. The Revel F12 is a little brighter to my ears than the F3B's. A cheaper alterative might be the Infinity Beta 50's. I have Beta 40's (small tower) and 20"s (bookshelf) and believe it or not I prefer the 20's. Had a pair of 50's a while back but can't remeber them enough to compare with the others.
Used F12's go for about $750/pr, Beta 50's for $350/pr and F3B's (again, if you can find them) for $300-$450/pr (new - $900). Hope this helps a bit.