"The" Onkyo TX-SR805 Thread - Page 504

Rega with Ortofon cartridge.

Since we got some vinyl fans here, I have a friend who is wanting to digitalize but isn't very good with a pc.

Anyone know of a program that will separate the tracks into individual mp3's? In other words, you can start one side of the lp and walk away?

aracGuate: Check www.soundandvisionmag.com . They reviewed several turntables and also included pricing, this year. Just type "turntable" to search on their website. I personally have an old Garrard, works just fine!

I only have two speakers HC-1s and a sub f112. Can the 805 be configured to output the DTS-HD MA to a 2.1 system? Is there such thing as a system with a left, right and center system 3.1?

thanks

Ok, but is there anyone with fw 1.03 or prior that has loader 1.01? That's the question, because that's the only use for posting fw 1.04 on the internet, otherwise it's useless, hence, my original question. At least, I don't suppose there's anyone with 1.05+ (and loader 1.01+) that would want to DOWNgrade to 1.04 is there?

I used a program called HDogg, it samples the line-in on your computer and records directly to disk (MP3 or other formats), but it doesn't seperate tracks, you'll probably need to record to WAV files first then seperate them with a WAV editor.

It's funny, I bought this Technics turntable (and Ortofon? cart) in about 1985 and then a couple years ago I open the Crutchfield catalog and they are still selling the exact same model... guess I can really pick em. It was about $129, don't know if that included the cart... I guess that's about what I paid for it in 85, though the cart was another $150 or something. Still sounds pretty good but I'm sure it could use a new needle...

That's what I was hoping to avoid.

Thank you tanman, I´ll do that...

Yes, and yes. For 3.1, just disable the Surround and Surround Back speakers in the speaker config. For 2.1, also disable the Center.

I just bought myself a new display the new Sony Z-series (beautiful display BTW) and it tells me what type of signal is coming in 16:9 1080p24 etc. I can finally confirm my long held belief that the Onkyo sends out SD signals in 4:3 and toggling between 16:9 and 4:3 in the Onkyo's menu doesn't seem to do anything. I believe this was mention earlier in the thread as an issue. My main firmware is version 1.04, unfortunately my update version is 1.00, so my only option is to send it out to a service center for the firmware upgrade. Does anyone know if the new firmware upgrades correct this aspect ratio setting not working?

Thank you for the reply. I know that many sound tracks put most of the dialog into the center channel. If I disable the center channel will the 805 be responsible for "mixiing" the center channel into the left and right so that I don't loose the dialog or most of its volume?

^^Yes it will do a "phantom" center.



Not sure what you are expecting here. SD signals *are* 4:3 and should always be 4:3. The 16:9 setting is I believe for the OSD, not for the (source) video output.

I was talking about SD DVD movies in 16:9, I still you my DVD player from time to time connected to the Onkyo via component then up converted and sent thru the HDMI to my display. The Onkyo passes it through as a 4:3 image as confirmed by my display,the OSD is the same, even though you have chosen your display type as 16:9 on the Onkyo menu. Switch between the 4:3 and 16:9 choices the Onkyo provides do nothing.

Right, as I said, that switch is for the OSD only.

The 805 should upconvert your DVD player to 480p, unless it's already 480p in which case it will do nothing. DVD/480p is still 4:3 though, it's only your widescreen TV that stretches it to fill the screen. Make sure you have your HDTV set to "Full" mode or similar.

I'm a little confused with that remark... While 640 x 480 is 4:3, Widescreen DVD's output in their full resolution @ 704 X 480 is correctly displayed in 16:9, isn't it?

Or is the tv itself stretching to 854 X 480 for 16:9?

It's about 720x480, with overscan, which is roughly 4:3, and so yes the TV is stretching it to 16:9.

Just make sure it's in "Full" mode, I think that's what Sony calls it.

The OSD doesn't change either, you can toggle between 4:3 and 16:9 and the OSD is still outputs at 4:3. I don't know what kind of DVD player you have but you can set DVD players to output in 16:9 not just 4:3. Let me put it this way, my DVD player is set to output to 16:9, now if I take the Onkyo out of the loop my TV recoqnizes that it's receiving a 16:9 signal in from the DVD player and automatically sets the aspect to full. Now with the Onkyo in the mix, for some reason the Onkyo receives the 16:9 signal outputs at 4:3 as confirmed by my display, and because of that the aspect ratio wrong.

Just got my 805 (what a beast). I've used the following instructions to check the firmware (1.08 - hooray!). However, when I use the button under "Tone" it doesn't cycle thru the DSP version. It cycles thru the speaker DB levels instead. What am I missing? thank you.

Check Your existing firmware version:
=> Turn on Your unit, push & hold "Display", press "Standby", release buttons
=> To see additional firmware infos (DSPs etc) press button underneath "Tone" repeatedly ( don't wait to long)

They should read DSP 1= 08214A; DSP 2= 07518A; DSP 3= 07820B

Are you pushing the arrow button, just below "Tone"?

That was it...I was pushing the one right below and not the '>'. Although I did try that button earlier...just not quick enough . Thankfully I have the latest firware and updates for the DSPs. Great news. thanks much.

It does change the OSD, it stretches it, or something, so it looks proper on a widescreen (16:9) TV.

SD is 4:3, it's always 4:3, always. When you set a DVD player to 16:9 it only changes the way it scales anamorphic DVDs (so that they look properly on a widescreen tv in "Full" mode), but it still outputs a SD, 4:3 signal. There's no such thing as a 16:9 SD signal. SD is 4:3 - always.

Just set the TV to "Full" mode and be done with it, there's nothing else you can do, not in the 805 that is, and no firmware will change that, because there's nothing to change...

That's the thing even the OSD doesn't get stretched, my display reads the input coming in as 4:3 even though I have select 16:9 on the Onkyo, and that's the OSD I'm talking about.

Same here. My OSD doesn't show as 16:9, either...even though I've selected 16:9 in the setup menu. It's been a minor irritant to me since the beginning, although 16:9 material does display properly. My display reads it as 4:3/480p (and yes, my display is set to automatically detect "Full" when the appropriate material is displayed).

And BTW, walk, SD DVD is not always 4:3! It can be either 4:3 or 16:9; the display device picks up the "flag," if you will, from the source and/or content which tells it how to present the material on-screen.

Im having a hard time deciding if i should get the Onkyo TX-SR805 or the Yamaha RX-V1800.I have an xbox360 elite and a PS3 hooked up to the sony KD-34XBR970 and im looking for a nice AVR upgrade.Anyone have any advice?Thxs

The picture frame is still 4:3 though, it just has 16:9 content (or, 1.85:1 or 2.35:1) inside it... and the TV stretches it to 16:9. The flag you speak of, I remember hearing about that a long time ago, but I've never seen it work in practice. It could be that his TV is picking up the flag when run directly, but when run thru the 805, it gets stripped out.

I have a Samsung BD-UP5000 . Any idea how to listen properly PCM UNCOMPRESSED 5.1 via HDMI (bitstreaming)? Do I have to enable PCM in the player, or just bitstreaming audiophile?.

I ask because on bitstreaming mode the 805 would not be processing the signal....

The way I do it is with the player on Bitstream Audiophile and the 805 displays MULTICHANNEL.......

Am I doing it right?

You are doin it right... again.

Will the 805's speaker calibration system adjust the time delay for every channel including the subwoofer? After it does EQ adjustments on the channels can I defeat the EQ for the sub channel but keep the time delay setting (the sub has it's own auto adjust)?

thanks

The Onkyo OSD setup monitor type setting described on page 97 of the manual is somewhat misleading. I believe it only controls the on screen display of volume level changes, etc. that are displayed if immediate display is set to on. It has no bearing on the aspect ratio of signals passed through the receiver from external sources such as a DVD player or on the aspect ratio of the setup menus.

There may also be some confusion here between the on screen display of control changes and the on screen display of the setup menu. They are two different things. Most people never see the OSD (I haven't) because they have immediate display set to off. Changing the aspect ratio of the setup menus is an undocumented feature that was first described back on post 6486. This post isn't entirely clear so I'll try to describe it better.

First you need to select an input, such as phono, that will display a solid blue screen. On my receiver I don't get this blue screen on my two HDMI inputs. The blue screen will have black bars on the sides if the setup menu aspect ratio is set to 4:3 and will fill the screen if the aspect ratio is set to 16:9.

Next, hold down the display button on the remote until the aspect ratio is displayed. It will either show 4:3 or 16:9. As soon as the aspect ratio is displayed, let up on the display button. Pushing the display button again changes the setup menu display aspect ratio. When the setting says 16:9 the blue screen will fill the screen of a widescreen TV. As you toggle back and forth between aspect ratios you can see the change on the blue screen. Once this setting is changed to 16:9 the setup menus will fill the screen of a widescreen TV.

Recently purchased my 805 along with a pair of NHT 2.5i speakers. I also have an NHT SA-2 amp that I want to use to power the woofers of the 2.5i

Do I just connect the RCA plugs from the SA-2 line-in to the 805's Front Pre-out?

The SA-2 manual had also discussed using the Main-in - but I don't see that feature as part of the 805.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks