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post #15121 of 22607
Can anyone recommend a battery backup for the onkyo 805 and a cable box HD DVR? I have no clue what to look for. I keep getting power outtages that last for maybe a second or so, when that happens I lost all my setting on the receiver. Kinda getting sick of it and not sure if it would be worth to send it back for them fix.
post #15122 of 22607
Any UPS rated at 750ma or higher should do it.
post #15123 of 22607
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Originally Posted by walk View Post

The picture frame is still 4:3 though, it just has 16:9 content (or, 1.85:1 or 2.35:1) inside it... and the TV stretches it to 16:9. The flag you speak of, I remember hearing about that a long time ago, but I've never seen it work in practice. It could be that his TV is picking up the flag when run directly, but when run thru the 805, it gets stripped out.

I'll concede that the information is indeed stored within the confines of the 4:3 frame. However, that doesn't explain why the 805 won't output its OSD as 16:9 when clearly there is an option for it in the setup menu. With my display device, the 16:9 flag is picked up flawlessly through the 805 from all sources whether it be SD DVD, HD DVD, PS3/BD or HD-SAT. The OSD seems to be the only exception--and that's because, for whatever reason, it's not being output as 16:9. My display is "reading" the OSD information as that of a 4:3 full frame movie that doesn't require the anamorphic "de-squeeze", if you will, e.g. Gone With The Wind or Citizen Kane, etc. Clearly something's amiss here.
post #15124 of 22607
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Originally Posted by componentdisc View Post

Recently purchased my 805 along with a pair of NHT 2.5i speakers. I also have an NHT SA-2 amp that I want to use to power the woofers of the 2.5i

Do I just connect the RCA plugs from the SA-2 line-in to the 805's Front Pre-out?

The SA-2 manual had also discussed using the Main-in - but I don't see that feature as part of the 805.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

My guess is that what you proposed is the best way: connect the FL/FR pre-outs on the 805 to the SA-2's line-ins.
post #15125 of 22607
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Originally Posted by rmcdo View Post

The Onkyo OSD setup monitor type setting described on page 97 of the manual is somewhat misleading. I believe it only controls the on screen display of volume level changes, etc. that are displayed if immediate display is set to on. It has no bearing on the aspect ratio of signals passed through the receiver from external sources such as a DVD player or on the aspect ratio of the setup menus.

There may also be some confusion here between the on screen display of control changes and the on screen display of the setup menu. They are two different things. Most people never see the OSD (I haven't) because they have immediate display set to off. Changing the aspect ratio of the setup menus is an undocumented feature that was first described back on post 6486. This post isn't entirely clear so I'll try to describe it better.

First you need to select an input, such as phono, that will display a solid blue screen. On my receiver I don't get this blue screen on my two HDMI inputs. The blue screen will have black bars on the sides if the setup menu aspect ratio is set to 4:3 and will fill the screen if the aspect ratio is set to 16:9.

Next, hold down the display button on the remote until the aspect ratio is displayed. It will either show 4:3 or 16:9. As soon as the aspect ratio is displayed, let up on the display button. Pushing the display button again changes the setup menu display aspect ratio. When the setting says 16:9 the blue screen will fill the screen of a widescreen TV. As you toggle back and forth between aspect ratios you can see the change on the blue screen. Once this setting is changed to 16:9 the setup menus will fill the screen of a widescreen TV.

Great explanation! And yes, I definitely should have clarified that I was using OSD in reference to the setup menu, which is indeed a misnomer. In any event, your instructions seems to have rectified the situation and now my monitor reads it as 16:9, with the entire screen filled. Good lookin' out, rmcdo! And thanks, walk, for the exchange. In the end, everyone's input can potentially help to solve a mystery.
post #15126 of 22607
Thanks Kplex - that worked.

Kplex - you gave some advice a while back to a poster who had trouble with 'clicking'. That is happening to me. I have a 2.1 setup with a TiVoHD. Everytime I change the channel I hear the clicking as it tries to change it to another setting. I went into the setup and changed all the listening modes to 'stereo' but it still gives me the clicking as I change between channels.

How can I make the clicking go away - so that it only recognizes stereo and doesn't try to change it?

Thanks again
post #15127 of 22607
Smarty Pants, DOUBLE THANKS!!!

Why don't we share the same woman?
post #15128 of 22607
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Originally Posted by mariowar View Post

Smarty Pants, DOUBLE THANKS!!!

Why don't we share the same woman?

My woman or your woman?
post #15129 of 22607
I don't have Tivo so this is mere speculation, but perhaps the sound effect is a mono signal, in which case changing the way the Onkyo handles mono to be L/R or some such thing might help. Just a guess though.

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Originally Posted by componentdisc View Post

Thanks Kplex - that worked.

Kplex - you gave some advice a while back to a poster who had trouble with 'clicking'. That is happening to me. I have a 2.1 setup with a TiVoHD. Everytime I change the channel I hear the clicking as it tries to change it to another setting. I went into the setup and changed all the listening modes to 'stereo' but it still gives me the clicking as I change between channels.

How can I make the clicking go away - so that it only recognizes stereo and doesn't try to change it?

Thanks again
post #15130 of 22607
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Originally Posted by baniels View Post

I don't have Tivo so this is mere speculation, but perhaps the sound effect is a mono signal, in which case changing the way the Onkyo handles mono to be L/R or some such thing might help. Just a guess though.

Sounds reasonable to me, but I don't have a Tivo either.
post #15131 of 22607
Not that I don't try to get everything set up as perfectly as possible - but while we wring our hands over the aspect ratio of a OSD / setup menu that we should only need to utilize for 2 minutes a week, people are crying and begging for the most basic of necessities in third world countries.

Perhaps to ease my own guilt, I'm going to send one of them a year's subscription to Audiophile magazine.
post #15132 of 22607
Does anybody of you experience a loud popping sound during DTS HD playback? It was really loud and scared me that my speakers gave way(fortunately not). This happened while I was watching Rambo and The Longest Day. By the way I have a Panny BD30 as my player. Any comment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks...
post #15133 of 22607
If I want to use an external HeadPhone Dac/Amp, and it offers optical input, would I just connect the optical output from my 805 to the optical input on the Dac/Amp?

Does the 805 automatically output audio over optical once connected, or do I need to change any settings?

I have my PC feeding my 805 all source material via optical as well, so I was hoping I wouldn't have to change any settings to swap back and forth when I want to go from speaker to HP listening.
post #15134 of 22607
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Originally Posted by kamagong16 View Post

Does anybody of you experience a loud popping sound during DTS HD playback? It was really loud and scared me that my speakers gave way(fortunately not). This happened while I was watching Rambo and The Longest Day. By the way I have a Panny BD30 as my player. Any comment will be greatly appreciated. Thanks...

You are experiencing what we lovingly call "the DTS bomb". It can potentially damage your speakers, in fact there are a few confirmed reports.

This bomb happens with certain titles (DTSMA only) while audio is being bitstreamed to the 805.

Fortunately there is a fix thanks to a few dedicated people on this forum. You need to update the DSPs in your receiver. All the information can be found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13401952

and here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297

The update can be performed relatively easy provided that you FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Ask if you have more questions.
post #15135 of 22607
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Originally Posted by gunbunnysoulja View Post

If I want to use an external HeadPhone Dac/Amp, and it offers optical input, would I just connect the optical output from my 805 to the optical input on the Dac/Amp?

Does the 805 automatically output audio over optical once connected, or do I need to change any settings?

I have my PC feeding my 805 all source material via optical as well, so I was hoping I wouldn't have to change any settings to swap back and forth when I want to go from speaker to HP listening.

It automatically outputs optical if the current source is connected with optical or digital coax.
post #15136 of 22607
I can't seem to find any documentation or other reason to believe that Audyssey is disabled for 192Khz Multichannel audio over HDMI, as suggested by the post quoted below.

As I understand it, the "Multichannel" listening mode does not bypass Audyssey. Page 72 of the manual shows the Multichannel listening mode as having a checkmark for "176.4/192 kHz" PCM sources.

Am I misinterpreting something?

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Originally Posted by tansahk View Post

I have searched this thread and I think I know the answer, but would like to re-confirm. I am trying to understand the best way of playing SACD/DVDA over Hdmi as multi-PCM from Oppo 970 DVD player. Here are the options as I understand:

1. Pure audio: Turns off video and all audio processing (including Audyssey). Actually manual just mention video being turned off but no mention of audio processing.

2. Direct: Turns off all audio processing (including Audyssey).

3. Multichannel: Audessey is on (if PCM is less than 176KHz).

Is this correct? Have you guys experimented with these modes to see which one sounds the best? I guess this may depend on ones personal preference. I just recieved my 805 today, will be doing some experiment myself tonight, but wanted to get some feedback as to what settings to checkout.

Thanks for your help.
post #15137 of 22607
Question, When running Audissey (7.1 system) all speakers pass except the Subwoofer. Note the subwoofer works fine and have tried running Audissey with various Sub levels. It is a Axiom Grand Master EP350.
post #15138 of 22607
Does the sub output the test tones when you go to adjust levels? Before running audyssey you should confirm that all speakers are properly outputting sound.

Have you triple checked your cables? What do you mean exactly when you say "the subwoofer works fine"? It works when?

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Originally Posted by tmauceri View Post

Question, When running Audissey (7.1 system) all speakers pass except the Subwoofer. Note the subwoofer works fine and have tried running Audissey with various Sub levels. It is a Axiom Grand Master EP350.
post #15139 of 22607
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddgtr View Post

You are experiencing what we lovingly call "the DTS bomb". It can potentially damage your speakers, in fact there are a few confirmed reports.

This bomb happens with certain titles (DTSMA only) while audio is being bitstreamed to the 805.

Fortunately there is a fix thanks to a few dedicated people on this forum. You need to update the DSPs in your receiver. All the information can be found here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13401952

and here

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016297

The update can be performed relatively easy provided that you FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

Ask if you have more questions.

I have a Panny BD30 with 2.2 firmware and the latest 805 DSP and firmware (1.08 I think)...I was watching Harold and Kumar E.F.G.B. last night on Bluray and heard a cracking sound every so often...I wouldn't say it was a real loud popping, but it was not part of the mix...it is a 7.1 mix and I am running 6.1, but I don't think this would have anything to do with it... Has anyone else noticed this? I'm not sure if it's the 805 or the BD30...
post #15140 of 22607
so has the DTSMA bomb been fixed with a patch or does it still do it?
post #15141 of 22607
Quote:
Originally Posted by baniels View Post

Does the sub output the test tones when you go to adjust levels? Before running audyssey you should confirm that all speakers are properly outputting sound.

Have you triple checked your cables? What do you mean exactly when you say "the subwoofer works fine"? It works when?

It outputs the Audissey tone through the sub.
post #15142 of 22607
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Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

so has the DTSMA bomb been fixed with a patch or does it still do it?

The DSP firmware update (CD + optical) resolved this for all models.
post #15143 of 22607
you know if all the newer 805's comes with the latest firmware?? Crutchfield was sold out recently and just got them back in stock.

Also is the lipsync issue common?? I'm kinda in between the 806 and 805, but like the 805 price/specs much better.
post #15144 of 22607
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Originally Posted by WHATTHEDILEO View Post

Not that I don't try to get everything set up as perfectly as possible - but while we wring our hands over the aspect ratio of a OSD / setup menu that we should only need to utilize for 2 minutes a week, people are crying and begging for the most basic of necessities in third world countries.

Perhaps to ease my own guilt, I'm going to send one of them a year's subscription to Audiophile magazine.

While your inclination toward charity is commendable (), I'm not sure I see how it adds anything of significance to the overall discussion. Just sayin'....
post #15145 of 22607
If a guy wants to run a pair of towers that are separate from his 5.1 mains in the same room (2 ch music vs HT), can the pre outs for Zone 2 be run to an external 2 channel amp to run the towers for 2 channel, music only playback? Also, how does the sub come into play for the 2 channel playback for the Zone 2 output?
post #15146 of 22607
Quote:
Originally Posted by Goatse View Post

you know if all the newer 805's comes with the latest firmware?? Crutchfield was sold out recently and just got them back in stock.

Also is the lipsync issue common?? I'm kinda in between the 806 and 805, but like the 805 price/specs much better.

I got a new 805 from 6th Ave last week and it has all the latest firmware. I have not noticed any lip-sync problems at all.
post #15147 of 22607
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Originally Posted by Dermott View Post

If a guy wants to run a pair of towers that are separate from his 5.1 mains in the same room (2 ch music vs HT), can the pre outs for Zone 2 be run to an external 2 channel amp to run the towers for 2 channel, music only playback? Also, how does the sub come into play for the 2 channel playback for the Zone 2 output?

Yes, you could use zone 2 for 2 channel output in the same room. The sub is not active. Keep in mind that your sources need to be connected with stereo analog cables.
post #15148 of 22607
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmcdo View Post

The Onkyo OSD setup monitor type setting described on page 97 of the manual is somewhat misleading. I believe it only controls the on screen display of volume level changes, etc. that are displayed if immediate display is set to on. It has no bearing on the aspect ratio of signals passed through the receiver from external sources such as a DVD player or on the aspect ratio of the setup menus.

There may also be some confusion here between the on screen display of control changes and the on screen display of the setup menu. They are two different things. Most people never see the OSD (I haven't) because they have immediate display set to off. Changing the aspect ratio of the setup menus is an undocumented feature that was first described back on post 6486. This post isn't entirely clear so I'll try to describe it better.

First you need to select an input, such as phono, that will display a solid blue screen. On my receiver I don't get this blue screen on my two HDMI inputs. The blue screen will have black bars on the sides if the setup menu aspect ratio is set to 4:3 and will fill the screen if the aspect ratio is set to 16:9.

Next, hold down the display button on the remote until the aspect ratio is displayed. It will either show 4:3 or 16:9. As soon as the aspect ratio is displayed, let up on the display button. Pushing the display button again changes the setup menu display aspect ratio. When the setting says 16:9 the blue screen will fill the screen of a widescreen TV. As you toggle back and forth between aspect ratios you can see the change on the blue screen. Once this setting is changed to 16:9 the setup menus will fill the screen of a widescreen TV.

Thx, that did it, it's been bugging me for a while now. Finally I don't have to adjust the aspect ratio manually on my display as the Onkyo is finally output a 16:9 anamorphic signal out.
post #15149 of 22607
A Gazillion thanks to all of you guys who responded. Searched the forum for the corresponding updates and did the DSP update this afternoon. Haven't done the Main firmware update yet because I have yet to buy the rs232 cable. Anyway my Main FW version is 1.06 so I'm not that behind. The DSP updates were successful after a few attempts (couldn't get to the s/pdif screen) but patience pays so now success. Again my THANKS to all of you. God Bless...
post #15150 of 22607
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Originally Posted by Archbushman View Post

I have a Panny BD30 with 2.2 firmware and the latest 805 DSP and firmware (1.08 I think)...I was watching Harold and Kumar E.F.G.B. last night on Bluray and heard a cracking sound every so often...I wouldn't say it was a real loud popping, but it was not part of the mix...it is a 7.1 mix and I am running 6.1, but I don't think this would have anything to do with it... Has anyone else noticed this? I'm not sure if it's the 805 or the BD30...

It is not your speaker configuration.
This is not the DTSMA bomb either, it's a separate issue. Some crackling or quiet pops occur either during playback or pause/rewind of certain titles. At this point it is unclear as to what exactly causes it - at least that was what I found out after some research I did about a month ago. Myself I would include DTSMA with Onkyo and Panny until things clear out. Noone has come correct so far, yet Onkyo released the DSP updates, DTS has re-released some titles and so forth. Everything's hush-hush.
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