"The" Onkyo TX-SR805 Thread - Page 511

I get the pops with my Samsung BD-P1400 and the BD-UP5000 too. They're are very soft pops and just more annoying than anything else. You can only hear them when starting/finshing a rr/ff/pause funtion. I have heard of this with other titles too, but can't remember which ones they were.

(no the software will probably never mature enough to have everything funtion properly. bring back HD .)

I get "pops" with the PS3 when it changes formats (from PCM to AC3, etc). It's the only "fix" that would make me consider sending in the unit for a FW upgrade (I'm a 1.00 SOL club member).

Yep, it's there. I believe I experienced it with "The Orphanage". There is a thread out there dealing with this issue, but no cure AFAIK. It could be a number of things, DTS encoding and Onk's DSPs included.

It seems that some people who have updated their DSPs, still experience a soft pop with some DVDs.

I am currently looking very hard at buying this receiver. The one thing I hate about my H/K AVR525 is the noticable gap in sound when switching channels or from 2 channel to 7.1. Does this receiver have this issue?

Yes and no.
I believe that if you have the latest firmware upgrade, then the gap you get when the receiver is trying to lock into the new format is dramatically reduced.

I guess that it is not a given that if I bought a new unit that it would have the latest firmware.?. Do you have to send the receiver to the factory to get the latest firmware?

It depends on the loader version. It is kind of a crapshoot, but I think the majority of the users here have loader version 1.01. If one has loader version 1.01 a DIY main firmware update is possible. If one has loader version 1.00 than it is NOT possible to upgrade without taking or sending to a service center.

The firmware thread is HERE.

Maybe I should look at a Denon .......?

Unless you are buying a floor model or opened item, the likelihood you would get a unit with main loader 1.00 is pretty low. If it has main loader 1.01, upgrading the firmware is not too complicated.

I just got a new 805. It came shipped with fw 1.08 and dsp updates.

I'm not having any issues.

D-extreme - how do you like it? How bad is the gap in sound when changing? My Harman/Kardon is like 3 seconds.

I love this receiver and it replaced an HK AVR-630. The gap if any is slight. Just make sure you program the inputs with surround modes, so it doesn't cycle through the modes.

I'm really glad I made the puchase, before all the new one's were gone. The sound quality has improved greatly over the HK.

hello,

i bought the 805 as well and have only 2 floor speakers Klipsch WF-35.

I only have two front speakers. And i'm new to this audio and speakers stuff.

I would like to know what is the correct configuration for my Onkyo and Speakers. I'm sort of confused wen looking at the Speaker Setting menu.

Somehow i cannot set Surround = NONE
and the Front is black out when I set Subwoofer = NONE

also, what are the numbers on the right? The speakers that are enbabled it says: 80Hz THX. What number should i put in for my speakers?



how about bi-amp? will that work better for my two speakers?

and the Level Calibration, what does it do? Does it set the speaker volume?

Thank you.

I came back from the vacation and found 805 replacement unit that Club Onkyo has shipped to me. The first unit did not emit any sound. This one had no such problems. Perfect external condition, though they forgot to include the remote control batteries. Not a big deal. After hooking it up, I ran the Audyssey . The sonic space it created swept away both me and my girlfriend. It was truly breath-taking. But then another reality set in. I run a seven speaker configuration with a mid-size center and small surround speakers. But my mains is a pair of Bose 601 Series 2 from 1985. These are monsters with tween 8 inch low frequency drivers, which should not be confused with their much smaller later replacements. They could shake up the entire building and bring the neighbors screaming obscenities even with a lowly 80 watt per channel entry level Sonny receiver that I bought in 1995.
But after running Audyssey the oomph was totally absent. There was very little mid-level base with any source I would try. Yes the sound was amazingly fast. The singer voices and the violins would breeze in the way that would make me believe I was in a concert hall. But everything was very bright, cold and lacked punch, warmth and "depth" of low-frequency content. I verified that my main speakers were set at full range and lowered the center's crossover to 80 Hz. It didn't seem to affect the sound. I went to tonal control and boosted the low frequency for mains to its highest setting. I didn't hear the difference. I remember reading in the Audyssey section that if a sub-woofer level is set too high before equalization this problem might result, but I DO NOT have a sub-woofer.

If you don't have a subwoofer and don't like what Audyssey did, try the Direct listening mode. It disables Audyssey equalization.

I would start buy running Audyssey. This is done by plugging in the microphone that came with the receiver to the input under the front panel.

The "numbers on the right" are the crossover settings. This would affect which frequencies originally destined for an given speaker would be sent to the subwoofer if present. If you don't have a subwoofer this is irrelevant, thus the blacking out when setting the sub to none.

Your speakers are full range so this should be fine. Still run Audyssey and see where it put things. It will conclude that you only have two speakers and should set itself appropriately.

Your best bet is to read the manual cover to cover. It will not only answer all of your questions, but inform you of many other things that you probably don't know. Searching this forum will also help.

You need to set Center, Surround and Surround back all to None in the speaker config. Just scroll all the way to the left past 40Hz and the next selection is None.

You don't need to worry about the crossovers for the front. If you set subwoofer to No, the fronts are automatically Full Band. I'm not familiar with your speakers, but if the manual for them says they can be biamped, you can bi-amp them. You could also try bridging as long as you stay with just 2 speakers or 2 speakers and a subwoofer.

The level calibration is for adjusting relative volume differences between speakers. Audyssey will do that for you automatically, or you can do it with an SPL meter.

Going out on a limb here and say the sound is probably more "balanced" than what you were used to before. Still, you may want to run Audyssey again, this time using all 8 positions and moving the mic all around the listening area (it will take 45 mins or so...)

When all's said and done though, if you don't like what Audyssey EQ does you can turn it off (under EQ) - while leaving the distance and level calibrations it performs.

Personally I'd get a subwoofer though, preferably 12" or larger. 8" is nice for main speakers but hardly in the realm of "sub" woofer.

baniels and kplex,

thank you for the input.
i did read the speaker's manual and onkyo manual. the speaker one does tell me much. and of course the onkyo does give lots of information.

even though it does, i am very new to this stuff. i don't understand.

but i will give the auto config a try tonight.

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now what about bi-amp, will it make the sound better? i guess i need to test both of the configuration out to be able to know the differences.

thank you again ...

+1

It is critical to run Audyssey with at least 6 positions. I was not happy with bass until I did this. All of the other sound calibration rules apply....try to remain quiet, turn off A/C or any other noise makers, verify/adjust individual speaker levels with an SPL meter after running Audyssey, etc.

Audyssey may be correcting/reducing frequencies that were getting a bass boost from your the room your speakers are in. This may not rattle the room as much, but you are getting a more balanced frequency response.

Will Direct mode allow me to listen to THX movie and NEO 6 processing? (I spent last night programming the remote and didn't have much time to figure out various listening modes. I will go back to RTFM today. ).

I have ran Audyssey for all 8 positions when I was setting the receiver up. I have actually used the last two positions for the same locations that I set positions #1 and #2, where my girlfriend and I usually sit watching tv.
You might be right about me not being used to "more" balanced sound. I would always have my previous Sony receiver run in loudness compensation mode.
If I understand you correctly, if I turn off Audyssey EQ under EQ, I will be able to change tonal controls while preserving the distance and level calibration, yes? That would allow me to boost the base, right? I seem to have access to tonal controls right now, but boosting base level produces no effect that I can hear. Thanks.

No, but you could go into the menus and totally turn off the Audessey EQ and switch it over to "maunual". With no calibration, then every mode would sound the same as DIRECT and you could then use the DSPs without Audessey.

First, I really appreciate any feedback. I believe that this receiver is capable of a really good sound and hope "to get there".

Each of these speakers has dual 8" drivers seating in an acoustically tuned tube within a common enclosure that opens up to a single vertical port. In addition to two woofers there are four additional high/mid frequency drivers in each speaker. Thus each speaker's woofer cone surface is 16 inches, which is significant. I've had them since 1985 consistently disturbing the peace paired to Akai and later, Sony receivers. While designed for generating surround sound from two speakers rather than precise dispersion, they are really capable of shaking the house. It puzzles me why Audyssey would tame them so much. Unless mains' polarity is reversed within receiver. Coming from a manufacturer of Onkyo caliber, that would be something.

The bass content with this receiver is definitely lower than with a cheap Sony that was driving my rig before. When played through Sony, the 5th element diva scene used to throw candles of the chandeliers I had on top of my speakers. That doesn't happen with this receiver even at maximum volume. Speaking of which, subjectively the maximum volume seems a lot quieter than what I have expected coming from another 80 watt per channel Dolby pro-logic receiver. I have also played Jumanji for its drum sequence. It just doesn't rock my house. Granted, the Sony generated enough bass for my taste only when I had it on loudness compensation. Does this receiver has this feature?

Separately, I have switched Audyssey processing off and have boosted the two bottom bands of receiver's parametric equalizer to maximum setting. Beats me, but I CAN NOT hear the difference between 0 level and maximum setting. Does anyone have any ideas?

You could check the speaker wiring polarity, though Audyssey should detect a mismatch and warn you.

Are you bi-amping? If you crossed the polarity on the woofer section you'd really kill the bass.

Note that in Pure Audio or Direct modes the EQ has no effect (is disabled)... Otherwise you should be able to hear a difference in Tone, though I'm not 100% sure if the EQ and Tone settings are additive or if Tone is disabled if you use EQ. Anyone know?

I can tell you this, the 805 has plenty of bass, or it should anyway if it's working right... I have tower speakers with 3 x 6.5" woofers, they play good and low, and in Pure/Direct mode (with stereo music) they will shake the walls if I want em to. I recommend a sub because even those monsters (rated -3db to 26hz mind you) don't fill the room with that pants-waffling LFE type bass you get in movie soundtracks.

There is (still) no replacement for displacement.

Dude..Your way offabout the bass.. Invest in a decent sub and you'll hear the difference. My Polk audio DSP 500 rocks my house at half volume. I also ran Audyssey with all 8 positions and the sound is awesome.

How do I check the loader version? I still dont know what the firmware advantages are for except for the DTS bomb. From what I understand thats only if you are bit-streaming. I have my PS3 and A2 outputting PCM. Can the PS3 bit-stream DTS HD 7.1 now?

Sorry I just dont have allot of time lately to read all the post from the beginning.

Maybe someone can also tell me. I have tried many times to register my 805 on Onkyo's site since I upgraded seven months ago.
It ask for the serial # I have tried both numbers on the sticker and the one on the back their site tells me they are not valid.