"The" Onkyo TX-SR805 Thread - Page 753

Have your friend check the Listening Mode Presets in the 805's setup.
It could be set to Pure Audio mode for the signal type being sent to the 805.
I set mine to LAST VALID.

Page 84 of the manual.

He says when he tries to select a surround mode it says "not available".

What happen when he chooses the Stereo listening mode?

And what is the audio source? HDMI, analog? Not sure it makes a difference, but if HDMI, do you know if the source is set to pcm or bitstream?

Surround sound modes are not available for the multi-channel analog inputs.
I bet that's what your friend has connected his player to.

He has all his sources connected via HDMI.

What is the source (Blu-ray, SACD player, Computer) and what kind of signal (digital stereo, Multi-PCM, True-HD, etc)?

Let me know what he's trying to play with the surround sound modes and I will test with my system.

Just found this thread & boy is it long..lol.I've had my 805 since bout 07 or 08 & I really liked it,but after about 2yrs I started having a few problems with it.First the menu display wouldn't show on the tv sometimes,just a blue screen but the reciever's display would show the functions I was adjusting.If I pulled out the power cord while it was on & plugged it backed in,the display may come through the tv or I may have to do it a few more times.Then,one day I went to play the Wii with Jr & I got the same funky blue screen.The Wii is hooked up by the component Blue red green red & white cables.Again,but unplugging the unit while it was on then plugging it back up it would,after a few tries,show the video,sound seemed to always come through.It became such a problem I decided to hook the Wii directly to the tv & output the tv's toshlink back to an open input on the reciever & it worked.Then one day as I was going through the different soundfield settings I put it in pure mode & went out,not just the display but the sound too.I couldn't switch to anything else,it was stuck there.After the pull the power cord & plug it back up trick was done,(for about most of the day,It would let me switch the sound field but then the audio would completely dissapear,the video would show but no audio or audio for just a few minutes until about a half & hour of the unplugging ritual),the reciever went back to normal operation.
I had just began to REALLY fiddle with the audyess calibration.I know I should have did this years ago but when I ran it then,it seened to tame the sound down TOO MUCH,but as I have changed my music tastes,not in the type of music but the sound,(I come from a DJ-Pro Audio-Recording Studio backgroung),I stopped trying to get the EV 18sub multi speaker array sound & began to hear what music in a real world,not a concert,sounds like.Sorry,I just got to rambling there..anyway,long a** story short,I havent had any other problems with the 805,the last major thing I did was to run a line to it from my downstairs desktop puter,it had an hdmi out & the sound card can output audio at 192hz 24bit.When I play music though it I hear a slight difference with wave files but more with MP3 files,and since the 805 is a dumb reciever,I use the desktop connection to run rhapsody,pandora,netflix,(if not doing it through PS3)ect..With the sound card output at 192hz 24bit I can't use the surround modes,it won't push em through,but if I need to I just switch the output on the sound card down & then all the codecs work fine,only really need that when I watch a movie & need surround sound.
The 805 has been recently moved down stairs to the basement & had been replaced by the Integra 50.4,but the 805 is stil an excellent reciever,well,at least for me it is.

Does your friend have a surround speaker setup connected to the 805. If so, did he run the Audyssey setup routine or manually configure the 805 to know it actually has more than 2 speakers (default out of box configuration)? Even if only L/R analog audio inputs were connected; when configured for a surround speaker setup, the matrix expansion modes like DPL II or DTS:Neo would still be available. Having only stereo/direct/pure modes available tells me the 805 thinks it only has L/R front speakers attached (subwoofer optional, it doesn't effect available surround modes).

-Brent

He has a 5.1 Klipsch Reference setup and his sources are BluRay, computer, XBox 360. I'll probably go over and help him when I get a day off to see if I can figure something out. There's too much ******** included in pre/pro's and receivers.

My 5 year old 805 is going strong but the upgrade bug finally kicked in...

Black Friday pricing on the 818 was too low not to bite...the 805 has moved to the TV/Streaming room.

Audyssey XT32 is the real deal and is a HUGE upgrade over XT...
OSD is a nice step up and the dual HDMI Outputs come in handy...
I have gone to a 9.1 set-up via an outboard amp and love the new DTS Neo X listening mode...
Sound Quality is better and I can't tell any loss of power while playing my favorite movie demos...
Runs much cooler than the 805 but I am keeping the fans on top & the display on dim just to be safe...

I can see the 24p bug on the main HDMI out so I had to move to the sub HDMI out as a work around...
There a few more bugs with the networking/streaming functions but I don't use these features...

For my situation, a dedicated theater room playing only Blu-ray movies, this is a big upgrade!

Hey...what's the 24p bug?Don't think I've heard bout that yet..hope there's a vaccine for it...lol.

The timing isn't quite right on the nr818. Movies aren't a true 24frames per second they are 23.9x, so every ~45 seconds or so there is a double frame to make up for it, on the 818. I had an 818 and didn't notice the issue, but I didn't think the XT32 update from XT was worth bothering with in my room, and liked my dual sub output, so I stayed with my NR1007 and sold off the NR818 for ~ what I bought it for. The sub HDMI output (second output) on the 818 doesn't exhibit this issue, and still has limited on screen gui so people use that to circumvent the issue, until Onkyo fixes the issue with a firmware update (Assuming they can???)

Oh..ok.I haven't noticed this issue on my Integra 50.4 or the old onkyo 805..I will pay close attention to see if it does suffer,(the Integra),this issue.I've watched a few movies & if it is an issue there I haven't noticed it as of yet.
Thanks for the info.

I have never seen the 24p bug on the 805 and I doubt it is there...I noticed the bug on the first movie I watched on the 818. For me, it is no big deal to use the HDMI sub output as the new OSD was getting old after a week. I make a fair amount of volume changes after I start a movie and I don't want my wife aware of them.

Update on my 805.
As I stated earlier,I had upgraded to a Integra 50.4 and put the 805 down stairs to run some oldschool Cervin Vega's & they pounded,but after a couple of weeks the audio would go out of any source that was digital though the picture would stay(using hdmi cable),so I decided to take it to the shop & have it looked at.The service center said it was the prossessor on the hdmi board going bad & I figured,no problem,I'll have em fix it & keep rolling but boy was I in store for some horrible news.It appears that onkyo no longer makes the hdmi board for this unit & there isn't a substitute or work around for it.The service center wasn't on onkyo's official list of centers so I got the hdmi board # from them & called an authorized one & gave them the part #,they called onkyo & low & behold they don't have it anymore,they quit making it.I am so upset about this because I really loved this reciever & now it may just be a paper weight.Onkyo told my original service center for me to go to shop onkyo n find a refurbished unit there & they'll give me a little of on the purchase.WHAT A JIP,the 818 is the only one close to the 805(that I was told) as far as power in the amp section & it's about $1000.I haven't seen a reciever under $1000 that maches up to the 805 as far as the ultra thx\raw power.I belive the 805 was rated at about 135watts per channel-all channels driven,even if not.it sure floated my boat with it's performance,my cervin vega vs 150's are 4ohm speakers & the 805 pushed them like no other.I can't spend $1000 or more on another reciever,heck,not even $600 after just getting the Integra 50,4.
If anyone can help with either finding a way to get it fixed or finding a comprable reciever (power\thx certified),let me know...I'm feeling realy sick now..lol.
Edited by G I Joe - 2/23/13 at 1:35pm

They get parted out on Ebay now and then. Maybe you'll get lucky. Set up an eBay alert so you don't have to search every day.

Wow, that does suck...the 805 is not quite 7 years old. I will keep babying mine...

I have the 818 and it is a worthy upgrade to the 805 but I am running 8 ohm speakers. I paid quite a bit less than a grand for it and the price should continue to fall as we move towards Summer.

I found an Intergra DTR 8.2,they want 300 for it but I'm gonna talk that down,anyway,does anyone know how this reciever is as far as the amp section?I went to Integra's home page & the specks don't look bad.On the wed page it doesn't have a 4ohm rating but according to Integra's info on the reciever,it says min 4ohms so I'm assuming it will be stable at that.The bad side is it has no hdmi what so ever.That's not much of a problem since I can work around that by running all hdmi devices through the tv then the audio output to the reciever.That is the work-around I'm going to try with the 805 first.I was told by the technition that it's a chance it may work,but the audio,anolog or digital runs though that proccesor,maybe because of the on-board dacs.is why,he didn't say & I didn't think to ask at the time I picked it back up.He mentioned that when the tsunami hit Japan a lot was lost,not just Onkyo but other Japaneese manufactures too,that may be the reason onkyo has no parts for my unit,anyway,I digress,back to the question at hand,anyone who can chime in on the Integra dtr 8.2 vs the onkyo 805 as far as power & soung quality please do..any help is well appreciated...thanks in advance
P.S. The Integra is thx select & the Onkyo is thx ultra but I don't know how much that matters in real world use.
Edited by G I Joe - 2/23/13 at 1:39pm

When doing the firmware update with the dongle adapter, I seem to get to that state where it asks for the file 805_223a.mot, after which it does nothing, it shows that baud rate pop up a couple times but there on, nothing.
Has anyone had this problem ?

Thanks.
Srinath.

My father just upgraded to a new Onkyo A/V receiver and gifted me his SR805 with burnt out display as well as providing me with brand new speakers and sub. Had this link favorited for several months but just got around to soldering the new resistors in tonight! Display is alive and well and working flawlessly! Thank you for taking the time to post this for all of our benefit..

My Onkyo is in a cabinet behind me (no line-of-sight). What do I need to take advantage of the IR Input/output on the back of the 805?

You'll need some sort of RF remote with an RF to IR bridge, or an IR repeater setup. I personally use a Harmony 890 with the RF to IR bridge which is then wired to the IR In port on my 805. I think Niles makes some good stuff too.

I'm a bit late to the party with this but if you're in the States, have Onkyo check their international stock, starting with Canada. The Canadian idea has bailed me out of a couple of problems at work. Might cost you a bit more to get the part but it's worth a shot. .

Goo luck!

Jim

So, there is no cable that has an IR "eye", that plugs into the IR input that I can point my remote at to control the Onkyo?

To my knowledge, no. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist

They used to exist but the last time I saw one was 6 years ago at the local HT place (that closed 4 years ago).

You can find them on Amazon it seems http://www.amazon.com/Infrared-Receiver-Extender-Description-Compatibility/dp/B002JSDHCY. They seem to still exist so you should be able to find some at a well known store. I just did a basic google search.

You'll need one for the input and one for the output as each port is unidirectional. The cables should not be but I recall when I purchased and first setup my Onkyo that you could get cables that only had a receiver or a IR LED. The one I linked seems to have both the IR LED and Photoresister but I would research more before purchasing as I frankly only glanced over the description and first review.

I was underwhelmed with the remote capabilities of the 805 using the onboard IR feed. I now use an IR emitter on the front to enable the full capabilities of the Onkyo remote. Search and you will find descriptions of 805 limitations using the onboard IR feed.

This is what I have, the one on the left has a standard 3.5mm plug as does the one on the right, but, the one on the right has 2 of those things split (Y-shape) from the 3.5 mm plug. Will these work, to plug it directly into the IR in?

The description for that item says:
Those look like IR flashers, not IR receivers. The one with the Y shape is most definitely a flasher (I had one with my Mitsubishi RPTV). The other looks like the ones that come with a Harmony. Those will only transmit IR signals when sent from a piece of equipment than can send the right signal thru the 3.5mm jack.

Update: Switch your listening mode to "PLXII Movie".

Next try turning off the cable box, then the Onkyo, and then the cable box and Onkyo back on. PLIIx Movie can decode better channels and this will prevent the Onkyo circuitry from attempting to match the output on whichever channel you are watching.

Original response...

Turning off both devices, unplugging the Onkyo, plugging it back in, powering on the Onkyo first and then powering on the Cable Box appears to have corrected this exact problem for me, Scientific Atlanta 8300HD box from Optimum Online (Cablevision), and Onkyo TXSR-805. I also changed one setting under Setup for the Onkyo TXSR-805, here is that setting:

• Setup Screen
• Under 3. Audio Adjust, select option 2. Direct.
• Change 'Delay Enable' DSD from No to Yes. This was a hunch, from the manual text below.
• Also, I am using Stereo listening mode, at the moment with only two front speakers.

This combination is working well. I attribute the improvement to turning on the components in a particular order / rebooting the hardware on both to improve the HDMI handshake.

I had the exact same issue of frequent popping and the audio frequently stopping after the popping, within five or ten minutes of using the cable box and changing channels, particularly ESPN perhaps because of HD audio. The troubleshooting combination listed here appears to have corrected the problem at least for the past several hours. This problem randomly started happening after three or more years of using the exact Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR box from Optimum without issue, with the Onkyo TX-SR805.

Quoted from the Manual, curious if there is any input as to why this may or may not help with HDMI audio from a cable box. In my mind, it makes sense that audio signals are processed by the Digital Signal Processor.

"Delay Enable
■
DSD
This setting determines whether or not DSD (SACD)
audio signals are passed through the DSP for A/V Sync,
delay, etc., processing when the Pure Audio or Direct listening
mode is selected.
No:
DSD signals are not processed by the DSP.
Yes:
DSD signals are processed by the DSP."

Good luck with your Onkyo 805.

Cowboy
Edited by cowboy76 - 3/29/13 at 12:12pm