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post #22591 of 22868
Does the TX-SR805 process or alter the picture in any way if the sources outputs from video game consoles to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV?
post #22592 of 22868
If it's HDMI it will just pass it through so no.
post #22593 of 22868
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Originally Posted by wal-dog View Post

If it's HDMI it will just pass it through so no.

But if it is component video?
post #22594 of 22868
If you keep the input/output the same, it will be untouched. So, HDMI in and HDMI out = pass thru, Comp in and Comp out = pass thru, Comp in and HDMI out = NO pass thru.
post #22595 of 22868
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Originally Posted by clamonte3 View Post

Comp out = pass thru

Except for 480i?
post #22596 of 22868
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Originally Posted by Furious Knight View Post

Except for 480i?

Not sure. I haven't used 480i/p sources for quite a while. I'd check, but my 805 is in the shop.
post #22597 of 22868
Hello all,

I've had this receiver for several years (I can't even remember how many) and I've been pretty happy with it, no real problems to speak of. (I wish, of course, that it had more HDMI inputs, but we can get by.)

Recently, though, I bought the latest edition AppleTV. I plugged it in and expected it al to "just work" and was dismayed to find that -- though I could hear the audio from the AppleTV -- I could not see the video from it. Some searching on the web suggests that the 805's HDMI chip may not be compatible with the latest AppleTV. (Yes, the AppleTV shows that it has the current firmware update, or seems to; I've never performed any kind of update to the 805, if there is one, I didn't know about it.)

So, I'm writing to ask two things. First, does anyone out there have experience getting a current (2013) generation AppleTV to work through this receiver? If not, does anyone have any good experience with a largely equivalent tier Onkyo that DOES work with the current generation AppleTV--if so, what model?

Thanks!

Todd
post #22598 of 22868
I don't have any information to help you Tigerninety, but I wanted to express my bewilderment at the problems associated with HDMI. I thought it was a mature technology and standard. I have difficulty getting my 805 and home theater PC to consistently talk. I get a good handshake about 50% of the time, otherwise I have to switch from one source to another until their is a successful handshake and the 805 is able to pass everything through.
post #22599 of 22868
Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Onkyo 805.
When I separate the gadget from power it loses its memory. I've read in the internet that the PowerCap (5,5V 0,1F [C8007 on the HDMI board]) is responsible for this. However, I was only able to find a SMD condenser instead of a PowerCap on the board. Does anyone know what I have to do to restore the ability to memorize the settings? I'm glad for every helpful answer.

Wolf
post #22600 of 22868
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Originally Posted by WhiteWolf89 View Post

Hey guys,

I have a problem with my Onkyo 805.
When I separate the gadget from power it loses its memory. I've read in the internet that the PowerCap (5,5V 0,1F [C8007 on the HDMI board]) is responsible for this. However, I was only able to find a SMD condenser instead of a PowerCap on the board. Does anyone know what I have to do to restore the ability to memorize the settings? I'm glad for every helpful answer.

Wolf

I would be surprised if the system memory backup condenser is located on the HDMI board. It would make much more sense for it to be located on the mainboard. Did you happen to get that PowerCap location from one of the HDMI failure repair threads?

Another option I recommended to someone a few pages back is to pick up a cheap UPS. You're only going to depend on it to provide memory backup, not for actual use of the 805 during a power outage so it should be good for weeks of memory protection.

-Brent
post #22601 of 22868
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Originally Posted by Furious Knight View Post

Does the TX-SR805 process or alter the picture in any way if the sources outputs from video game consoles to the receiver and from the receiver to the TV?

If you search back in this thread, the capabilities of the 805's video chip have been discussed ad nauseum. Otherwise, you'll need to provide a bit more information to get a more helpful answer...input format/connector, source device, output format/connector.

As the manual shows, same input to output is passthrough. 1080i/p component will actually be downscaled to 720p output (chip limitation). IIRC, 480i/p composite&component will be output as 480p HDMI unless you force 720 upscaling via the secret menu. There are potential issues related to 480i/p widescreen source material depending on how it's flagged...the 805 may letter/pillarbox it, seems like that was a problem for the Wii crowd in particular. Even when new, the 805's video chip was nothing to write home about and upconversion/upscaling was usually best left to another device in the chain...either the source or display. Onkyo offered the step-up 875 with the Reon chip (state of the art at the time) for those wanting major video processing in the receiver.

-Brent
post #22602 of 22868
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Originally Posted by tigerninety View Post

Hello all,

I've had this receiver for several years (I can't even remember how many) and I've been pretty happy with it, no real problems to speak of. (I wish, of course, that it had more HDMI inputs, but we can get by.)

Recently, though, I bought the latest edition AppleTV. I plugged it in and expected it al to "just work" and was dismayed to find that -- though I could hear the audio from the AppleTV -- I could not see the video from it. Some searching on the web suggests that the 805's HDMI chip may not be compatible with the latest AppleTV. (Yes, the AppleTV shows that it has the current firmware update, or seems to; I've never performed any kind of update to the 805, if there is one, I didn't know about it.)

So, I'm writing to ask two things. First, does anyone out there have experience getting a current (2013) generation AppleTV to work through this receiver? If not, does anyone have any good experience with a largely equivalent tier Onkyo that DOES work with the current generation AppleTV--if so, what model?

Thanks!

Todd

Have you done some standard troubleshooting to make sure that port works properly for other HDMI source devices? Ports do go bad without losing all of them. Does the AppleTV work via HDMI when connected directly to the display? Swapped cables to determine good/bad cable?

Lastly, have you experimented with startup order of devices? HDMI of the 805's vintage can be rather senstive to "who" talks "when" during the handshake process. I always work backwards from the display->receiver->source since the source is going to configure itself based on what the end device says it's capable of. Some source devices seem to only ping once and then give up, maybe the AppleTV behaves that way. My TWC STB does...if it misses the projector or 805 handshake during power, it still transmits audio via HDMI, but video drops to composite (maybe component, not connected) until I power cycle once the projector and 805 have stabilized. My more recent disc players seem to be more tolerant of booting up faster than the display. YMMV.

One can work around the 805's HDMI port limitation with an inexpensive HDMI swtich from someone like Monoprice. I've been running a 4 port switch for nearly as long as I've owned the 805, which I got within a few months of its launch date.

-Brent
post #22603 of 22868
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Originally Posted by riverwolf View Post

If you search back in this thread, the capabilities of the 805's video chip have been discussed ad nauseum. Otherwise, you'll need to provide a bit more information to get a more helpful answer...input format/connector, source device, output format/connector.

IIRC, 480i/p composite&component will be output as 480p HDMI unless you force 720 upscaling via the secret menu.

Brent,

Okay, if I hook a Playstation 2 with component cables to the 805 and from the 805 I hook with component cable to the TV, will it outout in 480i if the source is 480i or will it force deinterlacing into 480p?
post #22604 of 22868
Are there any ways to keep to avoid deinterlacing of 480i sources into 480p with the 805?
post #22605 of 22868
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Originally Posted by Furious Knight View Post

Brent,

Okay, if I hook a Playstation 2 with component cables to the 805 and from the 805 I hook with component cable to the TV, will it outout in 480i if the source is 480i or will it force deinterlacing into 480p?

pass through = no processing

480i component in = 480i component out

Edit to add...this has always been my understanding. Post #1 has a breakdown that claims 480i component is deinterlaced to 480p, but that could be a typo. The manual says input to same output is unprocessed, which to me would include deinterlacing. I'm not wired for component so I can't check.
Edited by riverwolf - 4/17/13 at 2:50pm
post #22606 of 22868
My TX-SR805 display was dead. After reading the exceptionally good instructions by Cambrian, I replaced the 2 resistors. After powering back up, the display remained dead. I thought the repair experiment had failed. However ... Hooked up all the peripherals (TV, speakers, Blue-Ray, etc.), because except for the display, the TX-SR805 was fully functional. After about 1 hour of use, the display magically came on. It has been working ever since. I am not sure what this behavior signifies - whether the repair actually worked, or whether the resistor replacement had nothing to do with the display reappearing. The 1 hour delay is incomprehensible. Thanks again to Cambrian for the exceptional repair photos and instructions.
post #22607 of 22868
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Originally Posted by isystemsi View Post

My TX-SR805 display was dead. After reading the exceptionally good instructions by Cambrian, I replaced the 2 resistors. After powering back up, the display remained dead. I thought the repair experiment had failed. However ... Hooked up all the peripherals (TV, speakers, Blue-Ray, etc.), because except for the display, the TX-SR805 was fully functional. After about 1 hour of use, the display magically came on. It has been working ever since. I am not sure what this behavior signifies - whether the repair actually worked, or whether the resistor replacement had nothing to do with the display reappearing. The 1 hour delay is incomprehensible. Thanks again to Cambrian for the exceptional repair photos and instructions.

Electricity is magic.
post #22608 of 22868
I am looking over reviews of the Onkyo TX-805, for I just purchased one out of the Penny Saver for $240 and fortunatly this Behomoth looks like its been babied. It is silver but is a change from my black Onkyo TX-SR573 that I bought when it first came out in 2005. This TX-805 came out in 2007 and its amazing, between the upgrade in performance and features and the addition of THX certification, HDMI, latest (to this day) DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD technology. Actually the main reason I am upgrading from my perfectly fine performing TX-SR573 is due to the lack of power that this little unit has in being able to drive my power hungry but awsome sounding Sony SA-VF700ED 5.1 speaker system. They have a sensitivity rating of 88db (1W, 1m) which is not exactly efficient. I know once I get the TX-805 hookup up to these puppies that they will breath a sigh of relief from being pent up for so long...lol. I first need to buy a bigger cabinet to accomidate my new addition smile.gif Anyhow, getting back to why I am emailing you....I just wanted to comment on your nicely done Home Theater but thought the ceiling choise was unusual and was wondering where your Home Theater is located?
post #22609 of 22868
Thinking about selling my 805 and "upgrading" (I know, that's debate-able) to 818. Just wondering what would be the Fair Market Value of a 805 at this time. The receiver works fine with no issues.
post #22610 of 22868
I got mine for $240 off of Craigs List. He was asking $275 and I talked him down. I have been seeing them average $300 if you have everything that came with it when you perchased it new. Hope this helps.
post #22611 of 22868
I was able to get about $500 for mine in 2009. I wouldn't go over $175 now. Too many improvements with things like THX Loudness Plus, XT32, SubEQ, Audyssey DEQ and Volume in the newer models. The 805 was a heck of a value for its time but its time has passed.
post #22612 of 22868
Man still love and use my 805. What is the comparable replacement?
post #22613 of 22868
If you want THX Ultra2 then the 3010 is the lowest cost option. Onkyo dropped the ball by going losing Ultra2 on the 10xx series. The true 805 replacement was the 1007 which was Ultra2.
post #22614 of 22868
I know the 805 will accept and decode 2-channel 24 bit/196 kHz digital via its HDMI inputs. But what about via its optical inputs? Are these limited to RedBook (16 bits/44 kHz)? I ask because I'd like to use my MacBook Pro/iTunes as a high-res digital music server. The Mac can output up to 24 bit/96 kHz optical digital (196 kHz is not supported) from its 3.5 mm headphone jack (you just use a mini Toslink -> Toslink cable). Thanks!
Edited by pchemist - 6/1/13 at 2:33pm
post #22615 of 22868
congrats on your great buy! Mine still runs like a clock. fantastic receiver, and I dread the day it finally dies.
Did you read about putting fan(s) on the top, rear to draw out heat? Might be a good idea for longevity. I did it because so many folks said it was a good idea, and whether or not they help, my 805 hasn't tripped up once since I've owned it.
post #22616 of 22868
Thread Starter 
My parents still are using my original 805 when it first came out. It is like a tank and the sound is still powerfully good! smile.gif
post #22617 of 22868
OK, talked to Onkyo USA and they told me that the optical input will support up to 24 bit/96 kHz.
post #22618 of 22868
The owners manual states that comp in and HDMI out results in a a conversion to 720P. So it will work but depending on your gaming devices will either be up converted or down converted to the 720P setting.
post #22619 of 22868
The owners manual states that comp in and HDMI out results in a a conversion to 720P. So it will work but depending on your gaming devices will either be up converted or down converted to the 720P setting. Check out the manual online if you need further info on the video proccessing of this unit
post #22620 of 22868
My 805 is almost 7 years old now and is still going strong. Never had any issues, just keeping trucking on. I'm starting to get the itch to upgrade though, due to just buying a new 3D capable TV. I thought I could use an HDMI splitter to split the signal from my PS3 to my 805 and my TV so I could run 3D while getting the benefit of the multichannel PCM sound. Turns out that the splitters I researched all will downgrade to the lowest HDMI version (1.3a for the 805). That means that I can't get 3D to my TV using a splitter. My temporary solution is to plug the PS3 directly into the TV, but then I only get 2.0 PCM sound to my receiver by the optical audio cable from the TV to the receiver. I'm not expecting to be a huge 3D watcher, so I guess this will do when I just want to show it off.

I think I'll wait till this new 4K passthrough gen of receivers start coming down in price and jump on the TX-NR929. The 828 is a big step down in quality from the 818 if you compare the specs.
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