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post #2971 of 22607
7/16/07 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by NickFoley View Post

It's time for a sticky on the subject of receivers not displaying DTSHD or TrueHD on the display panel.

I agree, considering there are only 2 on the market that can decode it, and there are this many questions in so many threads....wait till the other receivers hit the market with the same feature.

I vote for a

-Why your receiver won't display Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master HD, but your still getting lossless sound!-

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post #2972 of 22607
7/16/07 at 6:56pm
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Originally Posted by dobieck1 View Post

I agree, considering there are only 2 on the market that can decode it, and there are this many questions in so many threads....wait till the other receivers hit the market with the same feature.

I vote for a

-Why your receiver won't display Dolby TrueHD or DTS Master HD, but your still getting lossless sound!-

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First: Congrats on being the first on page 100!!! No, you do not win an 805

Second: what the heck, it only takes a second to write the answer for those folks. Same problem with analog->HDMI video... I've answered that one a bunch... yelled at first, but just decided to do it from now on
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post #2973 of 22607
7/16/07 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by grubavs View Post

First: Congrats on being the first on page 100!!! No, you do not win an 805

Second: what the heck, it only takes a second to write the answer for those folks. Same problem with analog->HDMI video... I've answered that one a bunch... yelled at first, but just decided to do it from now on

I did answer, 4 posts back.
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post #2974 of 22607
7/16/07 at 7:37pm
I concur!
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post #2975 of 22607
7/16/07 at 8:32pm
I just got my hdtv 2 weeks ago. My speakers came in last week. Now I just need a sub and receiver. Not sure which route I want to go but the 805 seems like it will fit nicely and give my x series speakers the juice they require.
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post #2976 of 22607
7/16/07 at 8:37pm
Thread Starter 
Oh yeah! 100 pages baby!
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post #2977 of 22607
7/16/07 at 11:07pm
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Originally Posted by dobieck1 View Post

I really think this delay is blown WAY out of proportion. Theyre are maybe 4 or 5 people on here talking about it. According to what I have read, and my own experience, it is only noticeable in real-time applications. For example, plugging a microphone in and playing a karioke game. You will hear it a split secend after you sing. Or shooter games on gaming systems where when you press the button to shoot, you hear the shot a split second later. You can bypass both of these situations using analog cables.

For almost everyone, there is no noticeable delay/synch/or whatever with watching movies or TV. Exception may be certain cable channels that are just plain bad and have nothing to do with the 805. And if there is a delay/synch isses between the TV, cable, and 805, you can most likely adjust it out with the AV synch setting on the 805.

In reading some of the posts on here, you would think the 805 is a big pile of dog shat because of this, which just isn't the case.

I encourage you to pick one up, and see for yourself. Most places have a 30 day policy so what do you have to lose.

For some people it will matter, for others it wont. It is as simple as that. It depends on what camp you're on. If you're on the camp thats not affected by the small delay (those that primarly watching tv/movies/video and listen to music), then I can totally see why one would think that it is blown out of proportion since you hear about it almost every page but you don't actually experience it in realworld situations.

For others that do karaoke, studiowork, instruments, and certain gaming activities, it could be a major problem. There have been atleast a few people that have returned it for only this reason (even though they love the receiver otherwise), so i think it is a valid topic of discussion when people ask about advice on this receiver. I feel that they deserve to know about it as well the other quirks that others have mentioned.
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post #2978 of 22607
7/17/07 at 5:20am
I have my hd-a1 connected to an onkyo 805 receiver. I get 720p no problem but cant get 1080i. The player locks up when I change resolution. I did not have this problem when the a1 was directly fed (via hdmi to a dvi converter) to my tv. Anyone know if this is an onkyo or toshiba issue?
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post #2979 of 22607
7/17/07 at 6:19am
hey guys i'm deciding between this reciver and the yamaha RX-V861 after having the 805 do you still feel its on top for the price range? Browsing through the thread it seems people are having latency issues.
Will this happen to me if i'm just watching hd cable and hd/blueray movies? Also does the thx ultra 2 make a big noticable difference?
Does the onkyo upconvert to 1080p like the yamaha?
I cant find any info about it on their site
When you guys decided to get this one what made you choose the 805 over the yamaha rx-v861?
Please help me out here i cant make a decision on this being that i'm working 10,000 miles away (doing this for the rents)
THanks V
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post #2980 of 22607
7/17/07 at 7:32am
I really think this latentcy issue is not a deal breaker. Again there are a few here who think it is a significant issue, but it is only a big issue if you are doing a lot of real time applications with this unit. If that's the case, you should just use this unit as a dumb amplifier (use the multi-channel input) or look for a unit that has a less complex DSP.

Nothing comes for free in the signal processing world.

Again the TV audio being out of sync is not the Onkyos fault. A lot of channel add a hard coded audio delay in their signal, but many times a "one size fits alll" does not always work. Onkyo can't do anything about the broadcasters who have over corrected their signal. Again this delay is only very bad on a few channels, it is not across the board.
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post #2981 of 22607
7/17/07 at 7:43am
Here's one that I know that someone has a good suggestion for..

I have all of my components, including my receiver (Onkyo TX-SR805) in a closest in another room from my HT room. 805 is connected via HDMI to TV, thus I am not getting and OSD as designed.

As I am playing with different surround settings, I can't see the receiver to see what surround mode I am in unless I walk to where the component rack is to look at the receiver. Same thing goes with all of the other OSD's that I am missing with the HDMI connection.

Other than connecting another TV via component or s-video in the HT room to see the OSD's, does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this easier? I'd even be happy if each surround setting had a descrete remote code because now, there is no descrete code for THX-PLXii, THX-Ultra2 Cinema, etc. You have to press THX on the remote, and cycle thru the various THX modes wih the arrow keys - by doing that, I have no idea what surround mode I am in unless I walk to the receiver!

TIA
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post #2982 of 22607
7/17/07 at 8:11am
dbuchler- If you press the HDMI monitor button that is on the front of the receiver can you see the OSD now?
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post #2983 of 22607
7/17/07 at 8:48am
I had the same problem.You have to hit the hdmi on the front panel twice.Once to select it and the 2nd time to change it.I use s-video for the osd and it works fine..
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post #2984 of 22607
7/17/07 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by dbuchler View Post

Here's one that I know that someone has a good suggestion for..

I have all of my components, including my receiver (Onkyo TX-SR805) in a closest in another room from my HT room. 805 is connected via HDMI to TV, thus I am not getting and OSD as designed.

TIA

I am having the same problem as all of my equipment is in my attic and connected only HDMI to TV.

Here's what I have found so far:

1) I CAN see on screen setup menus. Completely replaces incoming video with menu display
2) I CAN see volume control, input selected and surround setting info when watching a Component input (still out HDMI to TV) overlaid ON TOP of video.
3) I CANNOT see any information when watching HDMI input other than the aforementioned setup menus.

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Originally Posted by devilbones View Post

devilbones dbuchler- If you press the HDMI monitor button that is on the front of the receiver can you see the OSD now?

Will this fix my problem and allow me to see volume, surround info, input name overlaid ontop of HDMI input signals?
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post #2985 of 22607
7/17/07 at 9:00am
No it does not (ever) show any kind of OSD over HDMI inputs.
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post #2986 of 22607
7/17/07 at 9:03am
LOL....I almost enjoyed reading this page...

I have gotten yelled at in the past for reposting questions already answered. I thought for sure you guys were going to lay the hammer down...but didn't.

You guys are alright in my book!


So, I received my stuff last night but got distracted by the family and didn't get started until 9pm or so. I got as far as tearing everything down to mop the floor (that hasn't been touched in years. Kids are pleased all spiders are gone). I removed all the dust and continued on replacing the receiver, DVD player, and (yes...still have it) the VCR.

Everything is in but I'm playing hooky to buy cables and finish it up. I have a few pictures I'd like to share. Looking for how to neatly run cables. Or is there a more appropriate forum for that?

-Drew

Wire Mess !
Wire mess 2
Room Torn Apart
Very impressed that J&R took the time to box the 805 into a larger box.
J&R Box
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post #2987 of 22607
7/17/07 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by NickFoley View Post

It's time for a sticky on the subject of receivers not displaying DTSHD or TrueHD on the display panel.

It's time for the 1st post to be updated, if the owner is still around. If not, we need a moderator to do it.

Other topics that need to be "stickied" in the first post:
- Delay issues, how to fix them.
- "Clicking" and how to fix.
- I have 8ohm speakers, what do I choose? (6ohm)
- ...

I'll think of more later.
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post #2988 of 22607
7/17/07 at 9:37am
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Originally Posted by walk View Post

No it does not (ever) show any kind of OSD over HDMI inputs.


Not true. If I turn on immediate display, it shows me volume control with HDMI input/output -- when it is a 480i source.

However, I leave immediate display off, per the recommendation in the manual.
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post #2989 of 22607
7/17/07 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by dbuchler View Post


I'd even be happy if each surround setting had a descrete remote code because now, there is no descrete code for THX-PLXii, THX-Ultra2 Cinema, etc. You have to press THX on the remote, and cycle thru the various THX modes wih the arrow keys - by doing that, I have no idea what surround mode I am in unless I walk to the receiver!

TIA

Press the display button on the remote (while the remote is in "receiver" mode). This will show what is being input to the receiver (DD 5.1 or DD 2.0 or whatever). The receiver display will, by default, show what you are outputting on top of that -- i.e, PLIIx or whatever.
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post #2990 of 22607
7/17/07 at 10:23am
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

Not true. If I turn on immediate display, it shows me volume control with HDMI input/output -- when it is a 480i source.

However, I leave immediate display off, per the recommendation in the manual.

I have immediate display ON (I know against the manual rec). Is this why I am able to see OSD over HDMI while using a component input?

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Originally Posted by walk View Post

(No it does not (ever) show any kind of OSD over HDMI inputs.

And is this true for anything other than the previously discussed 480i input (over HDMI)? I would love for some way to be able to see what the 805 is doing without having to look upstairs in the attic. So there is NO WAY for me too see any type of OSD (other than setup menu) over the HDMI while passing a 1080i/p source?
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post #2991 of 22607
7/17/07 at 10:30am
Looks like, not.

I'd actually like to have the opposite - be able to adjust audio settings without the OSD coming up and cutting off the audio that I'm trying to adjust...
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post #2992 of 22607
7/17/07 at 11:28am
[quote=dbuchler]Here's one that I know that someone has a good suggestion for..

I have all of my components, including my receiver (Onkyo TX-SR805) in a closest in another room from my HT room. 805 is connected via HDMI to TV, thus I am not getting and OSD as designed.

As I am playing with different surround settings, I can't see the receiver to see what surround mode I am in unless I walk to where the component rack is to look at the receiver. Same thing goes with all of the other OSD's that I am missing with the HDMI connection.

Other than connecting another TV via component or s-video in the HT room to see the OSD's, does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this easier? I'd even be happy if each surround setting had a descrete remote code because now, there is no descrete code for THX-PLXii, THX-Ultra2 Cinema, etc. You have to press THX on the remote, and cycle thru the various THX modes wih the arrow keys - by doing that, I have no idea what surround mode I am in unless I walk to the receiver!


I can see my osd via hdmi. Check pages 47 & 48 for instructions.
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post #2993 of 22607
7/17/07 at 11:46am
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Originally Posted by g_bartman View Post

I can see my osd via hdmi. Check pages 47 & 48 for instructions.

What is your input signal when you are seeing your OSD? And when you say your OSD you mean you can see the:
1) Input Name
2) Surround Mode selected
3) Volume Control
4) Setup Menus (these I can see)

I have done what the instructions say (set HMDI out to YES per page 46) but still cannot see anything onscreen when it's HD 1080i input on HDMI. What am I doing wrong?
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post #2994 of 22607
7/17/07 at 11:49am
Is this delay across the board on the entire Onkyo line, or just the 805?

I am considering the 875 or 905...
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post #2995 of 22607
7/17/07 at 11:50am
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Is this delay across the board on the entire Onkyo line, or just the 805?

I am considering the 875 or 905...

The 875 and 905 are not out yet. I'm willing to give the 875 a shot though.
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post #2996 of 22607
7/17/07 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by evena View Post

I have immediate display ON (I know against the manual rec). Is this why I am able to see OSD over HDMI while using a component input?

Yes.

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So there is NO WAY for me too see any type of OSD (other than setup menu) over the HDMI while passing a 1080i/p source?

I believe so -- same for 720p (and I think 480p).

The only way to see overlaid OSD info (immediate display info) is via 480i over HDMI (I believe).
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post #2997 of 22607
7/17/07 at 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by caesar1 View Post

Not true. If I turn on immediate display, it shows me volume control with HDMI input/output -- when it is a 480i source.

However, I leave immediate display off, per the recommendation in the manual.

Watching 480i via HDMI kinda defeats the purpose, huh?
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post #2998 of 22607
7/17/07 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by legierk View Post

Watching 480i via HDMI kinda defeats the purpose, huh?


Well this happens if you are channel surfing on the non-hd Comcast cable channels.

I have 480i pass through set on my cable box -- so I see the non-hd cable channels without stretching (no need to stretch to fill a 114 inch screen!). So IF I had kept immediate display on, it would show the volume on the screen for those channels.

But I rarely watch SD cable on my projector anyway -- usually HD cable or DVDs (sent at 720p) anyway.
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post #2999 of 22607
7/17/07 at 12:18pm
The only gaming that we do on our system is Wii, so I went ahead and ordered an 805 from Robert. I also bought two more RBH 661-SE speakers so that I can have a 7.1 system. Once the dust settles a little bit I will get a BD player and maybe a HD DVD player.
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post #3000 of 22607
7/17/07 at 12:23pm
So no comment on my wiring mess?

Another one, are all HDMI cables created equal?
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