"The" Onkyo TX-SR805 Thread - Page 103

Actually, all my inputs produce lower then max volume... I have tried CBL, AUX1 (Xm Radio) etc. The most the volume will go to is 87.5 Absolute. Disappointing to say the least!!!

I did the Audessy dance again this evening. Same "lower volume". I did take your advice and boot IntelliVolume - for all inputs. Some improvement.

I feel I have bought a 40W $1000 receiver...

Thanks for the info

Go into Speaker Level Calibration 2.4 in the menu. I'm betting one of the speakers is set to +12 and that's why your volume maxes out at 87.5 Absolute. Change that speaker to 0, then make relative adjustments to the other speakers to keep everything equal (if there's enough range), then you will get "maximum" volume.

BTW, do you really listen at 87.5 Absolute on a regular basis?

It seems that the OSD for the 805 is 480p, so it's only able to overlay it on top of a 480i/p input. I don't know for sure about the 875/905, but I would guess that since it has a scaler it should be able to overlay the OSD over any resolution signal.

Just wanted to chime in on the 1014/1015 to 805 upgrade question. As I stated earlier, I upgraded from a 1015 to the 805 and the change in audio quality was very significant (for the better). My speaker system consists of Athenas (F2's, B1's and C1) along with an SVS PB12-plus/2 sub.

xxxxxx, thanks for chiming it, for this is very much the upgrade I'm considering: have had a 1014 for ~ 3 yrs, driving Ascend Acoustics with a SVS PB 10 sub (room is only ~ 2000 cu ft), and am considering an upgrade to the Onkyo 805 (or 875 if I get convinced that the Reon chip does much for improving sdtv). Good to hear your feeling that it did make a positive diff.

Doesn't this depend on the sensitivity of your speakers? I set my mains at +2.5dB in order to get a C-weighted SPL reading of 75dB at the primary listening position using the receiver's test tone. If I understand the THX specs correctly, calibrating the test tone to 75dB will result in the volume setting of "0" being the correct reference level for movies, although that is subjectively too loud for a lot of us.

Dumb question: Maybe I'm going blind, but I can't find the serial number on my 805. Where is it?

I bought a Sony blu-ray player yesterday and hooked it up to my 805 but after going through the settings I only get 2.0 PCM sound.

Been at it all night but I still don't understand why it doesn't do multichannel PCM.
Can anyone give me some help with this ????

Thanx

Exactly (and your room and speaker distances too). Doing what you did should calibrate to reference.

Not sure what the original poster was talking about when he said 82 dbs was what he was getting. He should be using the test tones to calibrate (to 75 dbs).

Thanks. You are correct in that my center speaker is set to +12. I will try the adjustment later today.

BTW - no, over 87 would not by my normal listening level! I had just installed and done the setup - then told my wife we are ready to listen to Pink Floyd. Sounded great at normal volume. I went to crank it up a bit (more for the wow factor) and hit the 87 wall...

Guess I need to think about a new center speaker ;-)

Hey after narrowing down my choices i am on the cliff trying to decide between the okyo 805 and the yamaha 861.
Basically overall it seems the onkyo is better in every regard except for the upconversion which it is lacking. Now the 875 and 905 are out of my budget so there not an option.

Is the upconversion really a big factor? Does it make a big difference? I'll be using cable tv with hd programing, xbox 360 with component out, and in the near future blue ray/hd dvd player through hdmi

based off this what do you guys suggest

Just finished placing my order for the 805 . 50 pounds ! WOW !

I'm with you.

The only difference is I'm trying to choose between the 705 and 861. Both can be purchased for around the same price.

I will receive my 805 today, couldn't sleep last night, all I thought about is how it is going to sound.

I see a lot of people talking about the differences between the 805 and 905, it seems that upconversion keeps coming up. One question

1. Can you really tell the difference between 720p and 1080P/i when viewing an upconverted 480p dvd?

HDMI Audio (see page 99 of the manual) being set to ON can cause this. Normally it should be set to OFF.

Hopefully you are using an HDMI cable??

Make sure you go in the Ps3 menu under Sound and choose "HDMI" and then "Automatic".

Also when the movie starts, remember to choose the Uncompressed option in the Audio Set up menu of the Blu Ray disc.

Thx,
claude

I believe mine was in the lower right corner on the back of the receiver ...

If you still have the box, it should be printed on the outside. That's where I found mine; easier than pulling the AVR out of the cabinet .

Thanks, I will let you know. You have an outside theater, Nice. I also noticed you live in the midwest outside Chicago. I'm in Montgomery, next to Oswego. I have a projector on a 120" screen in my garage where we sit in our drive way and watch the games, not as good as what you have.

I also turned mine up all the way for the first time. With a 2.0 source (ran a 20-foot coax cable from the PC for iTunes...) using Dolby PLII Music, it wasn't that loud. In fact once it hit about 60-75% (on the bars, I couldn't read the numbers from the back of the room...) turning it up didn't seem to make it go any louder.

Then I switched it to Pure Audio mode and tried again, holy crap I couldn't get it past 50-60% without worrying my neighbors would call the cops.. HUGE difference. I have it bi-amped to a pair of Polk RTi150s, rated "500 watts" tower speakers...

SO either there's something about PLII or the DSPs that limit the volume or it's just that much louder in 2-channel mode vs 5/7 channel. ?

Oh, the music was Metallica by the way...

Yes I am using a HDMI cable bunga but I use the blu-ray player from Sony and not a PS3.

Will look into that jgb60, hopefully that will be the probleem

This is fine for upconverting sd dvds. The question in my mind is whether or not the Reon is effective in upconverting sdTV to 1080p better than what my projector does (RS1). The RS1 has a Gennum chip for doing this, so the question is whether or not the Reon does it significantly better. At some point I'll probably buy a 875 and do a side by side test. (My guess is that I won't see much diff with the Reon, and then will decide to go with a 805!)

millerwill,

If your projector has the Gennum then I don't think you need the Reon. Save the cash and go with the 805.

Isn't the Gennum considered superior?

The video processor in the RS1 is the Gennum GF9351. Yes, it's supposed to be very good, but I guess I thought the Reon HQV was better. I definitely do NOT know, and you could very well be correct. And the 805 would indeed be the more reasonable choice.

Seriously,who watches sd tv anymore? Everything I watch is in HD. Is anyone going to actually use the upconvert on the 875 or 905..I have the 805 and it does everything I want. I don't watch enough tv to worry about sd tv and if I do have to watch it,its not going to kill me.Upconverted dvd's look awesome off the ps3.

I agree.

I will let my HD DVD player handle upconverting DVDs and I'll live with the limited amount of the crappy SDTV I watch. I'll save that extra cash I'd would've used on the 875 or 905 and spend it on my new HDTV.

Well, I do admit to watching some sdtv on occasion (me and Tony for the History Channel), and my wife likes the BBC America series. Most tv is hd, though.

Therefore IF the 875 did a much better job of upconverting sdtv to 1080p for my RS1 projector--better than the processor in the RS1 does--then I would be willing to pay the extra 200 to 300. I doubt that it will be better, though, but I'm willing to wait to hear something definitive. (Don't need it for sd dvds; my Sammy 1200 BRD has a Reon in it and does beautiful job with sd dvds.)

2-300..try 700-1000..

The MSRP is 600 diff.

So everything you watch is already 1080P? I guess you don't watch anything but HDDVD or Bluray?

My cable box outputs either 480i, 720p or 1080i depending on the actual program being watched. My TV takes 1080p native, so clearly there is some conversion that needs to be done by something in the signal chain.

The 875 will be doing the conversion from HD *or* SD to Full 1080P HD with better quality than what you get in the 805

So yes, I will be using the conversion capabilities in the 875. Until my cable company supplies all programs in 1080P, I will be using the Reon's capabilities for a long time.

Whether you care about the Reon's capabilities is your choice, but the Reon does more than just convert SD to HD

I upgraded my choice from the 805 to the 875 because I realized that I should see a benefit from 80% of the stuff I watch (the other 20% being Bluray)