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post #1021 of 21406
FF: ROTSS looked pretty good on Blu-Ray. Mid tier 1 is about right.
It is unfortunate that the PQ shows how hard they hit Jessica Alba with the ugly stick. They should have hired Angelina Jolie instead of trying to make someone look like her.

Sony KDS-A552020 - rear projection - 1920x1080@60P - 8' distance
HK AVR-247
PS3
all via HDMI
post #1022 of 21406
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Is Netflix accurate in listing Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as a 1.85:1 aspect ratio? That would be lovely.

You guys have me eager to see this title so much so that I put it at the top of my queue, which means it should only take 6 weeks for me to receive it . Seriously, I've had TMNT and Black Snake Moan up there for at least 4 weeks and it still says "very long wait" for TMNT. I guess I'll see if Blockbuster has it. Do they still have those?

Brandon

both blockbusters within a mile of my place doesn't carry TMNT in bluray...

i'll probably check out black snake moan though...
post #1023 of 21406
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Is Netflix accurate in listing Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as a 1.85:1 aspect ratio? That would be lovely.

No. It's 2.35:1.
post #1024 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

No. It's 2.35:1.

Those bastards...they've misled me before. No worries though, I didn't really expect an action flick to be 1.85.

Brandon
post #1025 of 21406
Watched one tonight that I don't yet see ranked.
Disney's The Wild---If this isn't TIER 0...it is #1 on TIER 1
This had amazing detail and color plus a great audio track and a very fun family movie. Hasn't anyone else seen this yet??

Viewed on Sony 46" ES2000 720p thru HDMI on PS3 @8-9ft...this must look insane in 1080p.
post #1026 of 21406
The Wild is one of the best video presentations I have seen.
post #1027 of 21406
Might as well stuff 28 Days Later into the "Coal" tier. The very nature of the material prevents a higher rating. The only reasons to own this movie on Blu-ray Disc are the lossless audio and to have it sitting next to 28 Weeks Later on your shelf.
post #1028 of 21406
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Originally Posted by OhioMike View Post

Watched one tonight that I don't yet see ranked.
Disney's The Wild---If this isn't TIER 0...it is #1 on TIER 1
This had amazing detail and color plus a great audio track and a very fun family movie. Hasn't anyone else seen this yet??

Viewed on Sony 46" ES2000 720p thru HDMI on PS3 @8-9ft...this must look insane in 1080p.


The Wild is ranked about 2/3rds of the way down in Tier 1. It's definitely there. And I held it in high regard when it first came out. I can't find my original post because it was in the other (closed) thread. In the before time. The long long ago.

Way back then I was one of the few who regarded it higher than the Tier champ at that time: Chicken Little. The movie is okay, but the PQ is excellent.

Brandon
post #1029 of 21406
It was late, so I'm not surprised I missed it on there, thanks for pointing to it Brandon. This really is the most detailed BD I've seen yet. So life-like that my cat watched half the movie.
post #1030 of 21406
Has robocop been ranked yet. I justed finished watching it on my ps3-onkyo 705- 52xbr4 and wasn't that impressed. There is still alot of noise and grain. It is an improvement over the dvd but not that much. It is a soft image with less then stellar blacks. I would put it in the tier 4 or 5 category. The disc comes with a dts hd ma track but i could only hear the core. It was alright but you could definitly tell it was old, the voices are sometimes scratchy and off, on the other hand they did do some nice work on creating a 360 enviroment. Rain effects and bullits wiz acros the soundstage. what are other peoples opions on this disc.
post #1031 of 21406
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Is Netflix accurate in listing Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as a 1.85:1 aspect ratio? That would be lovely.

You guys have me eager to see this title so much so that I put it at the top of my queue, which means it should only take 6 weeks for me to receive it . Seriously, I've had TMNT and Black Snake Moan up there for at least 4 weeks and it still says "very long wait" for TMNT. I guess I'll see if Blockbuster has it. Do they still have those?

Brandon

I also use netflix also and have found it annoying trying to get in demand bd disc. I have been trying to get smallville for weeks. I do however have a great strategy for getting new realeases. The saturday before the disc i want is being realeased i return a disc i have. Then i take everthing out of my queu except for the disc or discs i want without fail i have always gotten the disc on the tuesday it is realesed.
post #1032 of 21406
So what's the verdict on Surf's Up ? I watched it last night and LOVED it. Since the movie is filmed in a documentary style its difficult to judge it but I think it should be in high tier 1.
post #1033 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Deviation View Post

Might as well stuff 28 Days Later into the "Coal" tier. The very nature of the material prevents a higher rating. The only reasons to own this movie on Blu-ray Disc are the lossless audio and to have it sitting next to 28 Weeks Later on your shelf.

Exactly.

It was recorded on the DV format, wasn't it? Anyone who expects this to look anywhere close to "good" is crazy.

Frankly I am very surprised that this would even be offered in Hi Def.
post #1034 of 21406
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Originally Posted by OhioMike View Post

Watched one tonight that I don't yet see ranked.
Disney's The Wild---If this isn't TIER 0...it is #1 on TIER 1
This had amazing detail and color plus a great audio track and a very fun family movie. Hasn't anyone else seen this yet??

Viewed on Sony 46" ES2000 720p thru HDMI on PS3 @8-9ft...this must look insane in 1080p.

Just came across this excerpt while reading a review on the XBR4 TV:

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I know that computer animation can look good on most displays, but it can still be useful when judging detail and the richness (but not accuracy) of a set's color reproduction. There are better animated films than The Wild (Blu-ray), but none that look better. It's an exceptional disc, and the detail brought out by the Sonyparticularly in the animal furis amazing. The colors are also vivid and bright, but never over-the-top.

http://www.guidetohometheater.com/fl...r4/index2.html

Brandon
post #1035 of 21406
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

I also use netflix also and have found it annoying trying to get in demand bd disc. I have been trying to get smallville for weeks. I do however have a great strategy for getting new realeases. The saturday before the disc i want is being realeased i return a disc i have. Then i take everthing out of my queu except for the disc or discs i want without fail i have always gotten the disc on the tuesday it is realesed.

Thanks for the tip.

Brandon
post #1036 of 21406
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

Just came across this excerpt while reading a review on the XBR4 TV:



http://www.guidetohometheater.com/fl...r4/index2.html

Brandon

I'd like to get the opinion of someone with a 1080p set before moving the wild up. I don't have Surfs so can't review that one. I'm going to watch FF this weekend and maybe Day After Tom now that my firmware will play both.
post #1037 of 21406
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Originally Posted by AustinSTI View Post

I'd like to get the opinion of someone with a 1080p set before moving the wild up.

1080p/24 JVC RS1 on a 123" screen.

The Wild should be moved up. It is better than TMNT (which was superb as well).
post #1038 of 21406
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

1080p/24 JVC RS1 on a 123" screen.

The Wild should be moved up. It is better than TMNT (which was superb as well).

Done - right above TMNT now
post #1039 of 21406
I don't know if this is in the list yet, but I think it should be somewhere in the mid to upper Tier 2 (silver)........awesome picture quality on this one!

42" Panasonic Plasma (75U) 768p
PS3 though HDMI
6-7 ft. viewing distance
post #1040 of 21406
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Originally Posted by AustinSTI View Post

Done - right above TMNT now

post #1041 of 21406
Just did a search on this thread to see if there was anything re: availability of any Blu-rays with 7.1 discrete (prolly Dolby TrueHD). Came up with zip. Used to follow this thread, but haven't in quite a while, so if this is a redundant question here, I apologize.

According to my current understanding, there are only a very few discrete 7.1 audio-channel media sources available and all are PS3 games (RFOM and Motostorm, maybe others). I'm trying to better define some of the operating capabilities & features of the Onkyo 905 and it would be useful if there was a Blu-ray disc (other than PS3 games) with discrete 7.1 audio channels; but I think such a beast does not yet exist? My player is the PS3. Any confirmation?

- da Choge
post #1042 of 21406
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Originally Posted by mosman22 View Post

I do however have a great strategy for getting new realeases. The saturday before the disc i want is being realeased i return a disc i have. Then i take everthing out of my queu except for the disc or discs i want without fail i have always gotten the disc on the tuesday it is realesed.

I do the same thing with the same result, except I don't remove everything from my queue. As soon as a movie's release date is announced you can move that movie to the top of your queue. I usually have 3-5 movies on the top of my queue that haven't been released yet. The only time I'm buggered is when don't add it to my queue because I think I'll buy a movie, then read the reviews and decide to rent (FF:ROTSS.) Then it's the "Long Wait."
post #1043 of 21406
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Originally Posted by da Choge View Post

Just did a search on this thread to see if there was anything re: availability of any Blu-rays with 7.1 discrete (prolly Dolby TrueHD). Came up with zip. Used to follow this thread, but haven't in quite a while, so if this is a redundant question here, I apologize.

According to my current understanding, there are only a very few discrete 7.1 audio-channel media sources available and all are PS3 games (RFOM and Motostorm, maybe others). I'm trying to better define some of the operating capabilities & features of the Onkyo 905 and it would be useful if there was a Blu-ray disc (other than PS3 games) with discrete 7.1 audio channels; but I think such a beast does not yet exist? My player is the PS3. Any confirmation?

- da Choge

Motorstorm shows up as 7.1 on my setup, but RESISTANCE FALL OF MAN is 5.1 on my receiver....
post #1044 of 21406
Thanks for moving The Wild up Austin
post #1045 of 21406
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Originally Posted by da Choge View Post

Just did a search on this thread to see if there was anything re: availability of any Blu-rays with 7.1 discrete (prolly Dolby TrueHD). Came up with zip. Used to follow this thread, but haven't in quite a while, so if this is a redundant question here, I apologize.

According to my current understanding, there are only a very few discrete 7.1 audio-channel media sources available and all are PS3 games (RFOM and Motostorm, maybe others). I'm trying to better define some of the operating capabilities & features of the Onkyo 905 and it would be useful if there was a Blu-ray disc (other than PS3 games) with discrete 7.1 audio channels; but I think such a beast does not yet exist? My player is the PS3. Any confirmation?

- da Choge

I've seen "Daddy's Little Girls" which is PCM 7.1 (48kHz, 16-bit) - http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=430

Also blu-ray.com lists "Delta Farce" as PCM 7.1 (48kHz, 16-bit) - http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=491
post #1046 of 21406
IMHO, "Galapagos" should reside at the top of Tier 1 and possibly Tier 0. Fabulous colors. Incredible detail and 3-D pop.

Viewed via PS3 over HDMI on a calibrated Samsung LN-T4066F 1080p set. Viewing distance is 6-7 feet.

On another note, I've watched "The Patriot" on the same setup. While I consider the PQ to be excellent, I question its insertion to the middle of Tier One while "Kingdom of Heaven" has consistently dropped to the low end of Tier One. IMO, KoH is at least the equal of "The Patriot" and KoH offers a better assortment of 3-D "pop" scenes.

Also, I found "The Patriot" to be nearly devoid of film grain during the second half of the film while the beginning of the movie showed a lot of grain. Now, I know about the attitude we have about film grain around these parts, but why wouldn't it be consistent over the entire film? The second half of this flick's PQ is near-reference level. The lack of PQ consistency over the entire film is something I don't see that we can forgive without some kind of explanation. IMO, KoH certainly tops the overall PQ from a consistency standpoint as does the Tier 2 (really?) offering of "Casino Royale".

BTW, it's good to see "The Wild" at the top of Tier 1. I agree with Rob Tomlin. On Blu-Ray, "The Wild" represents ridiculous PQ. It's at the top of the list for "reference" material.
post #1047 of 21406
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So what's the verdict on Surf's Up ? I watched it last night and LOVED it. Since the movie is filmed in a documentary style its difficult to judge it but I think it should be in high tier 1.

I watched it last night and I agree upper tier 1, excellent transfer.
post #1048 of 21406
I've got Nip/Tuck Season 4 and I would have to say it's firmly in Tier 2 territory. It's a huge step up from DVD, but I'm guessing they just aren't using the same caliber of recording gear as, say, Pirates. Plus they put 4 episodes per disc so the compression quality is lower. Audio is not lossless either.

Disturbia is unranked? If the Blu-ray is anything like the HD-DVD version, it's easily Tier 1 material.

46" Samsung LN-T4671F, 1080p, PS3 for Blu-ray / 360 for HD-DVD (both via HDMI)
post #1049 of 21406
Yes, Surf's Up belongs in upper Tier 1. Very nice, and actually one of the better animated HD titles I have seen in terms of movie quality.
post #1050 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Ken Beck View Post

I've seen "Daddy's Little Girls" which is PCM 7.1 (48kHz, 16-bit) - http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=430
Also blu-ray.com lists "Delta Farce" as PCM 7.1 (48kHz, 16-bit) - http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=491

Thanks! I noticed both movies were from Lionsgate; wonder if any influence from part owner Cuban with his HD background played into producing these relatively minor movies in 7.1?

-da Choge
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