The New PQ Tier thread for Blu-Ray - Discussion - Page 41

I agree. I would say one of the very best titles I've seen. Cars is also very good.

I just watched it and I agree!

Damn, I wish Amazon would hurry up and ship my order for Rat and Cars!

Okay, I've gotten a lot of movies to look at while the Forum Nazi's were doing their thing:

Cars: Solid movie, great PQ and AQ. I would say it's Tier 0 for sure, right behind Pirates. I still think the Wild has some of the best detail and dimensionality I've ever seen, but the detail in Cars rivals it and also presents one of the best color palettes I've seen in an animated title yet.

Spider-Man 1: I think it should be lower than Reign Over Me...middle of Tier 2

Spider-Man 2: I think this should be around where Spider-Man 1 currently is.

The Shining: My first time ever seeing it. Very good movie. Very good transfer for such an old film, but I would say it is also mid Tier 2, below Spider-Man 1. Reign Over Me is easily better than both Spider-Man 1 (which appears a little "hot" to me) and The Shining.

I'll be getting Ratatouille today from Netflix so that should be great to see as well. It's the first HD title to get an overall perfect 5 Stars from High Def Digest.

As always: PS3->1080p24->46XBR4 (8 feet)

Brandon

I haven't even gotten my copy of 2001 from Amazon yet, and it shipped over a week ago.

Brandon

I will check it out.

Ratatouille is without doubt the Tier 0 material and I will go as far as putting it on top of Tier 0. Cars is also really good. I would put it in bottom of Tier 0 or top Tier 1.

There should be a Pixar Tier above Tier 0....

I agree with the above, but I wanted to be sure to highlight (bold) the part that I particularly agree with as I don't want anyone to think that this title is anything less than fanstastic!

The sound was incredible as well.

'Galapagos' is in the unranked group, but I agree--it definitely belongs in Tier 0. Really stunning.

I watched a bit of Spidey 3 and I have to say that I was disappointed. The outdoor nighttime scenes did look spectacular, but in most other scenes the film had an overall blue-ish cast to it that looked unnatural. It could be my setup, but most other discs look fine in that regard.

Russell

I watched both Ratatouille and Cars last night. Both are beautiful transfers. Ratatouille's placement should be upper Tier 0, about on par with Corpse Bride. Cars I would place lower Tier 0, or at the very top of Tier 1. Pixar did a nice job with both of these films.

Watched Ladder 49 on Friday evening. This one is definitely top silver tier material. It was a very clean transfer with good black levels, plus the fire looked amazing in HD. On par with Spidey 1, if not better...

Philips 42" 1080P/60 LCD
PS3 doing the pulldown
8ft viewing distance.

Alright, sorry for the lack of updates

Ratatouille, Cars, SM1, The Shining, and Ladder 49 have been added. SM3 was demoted. New releases for this week have also been listed.

And once more, be sure to visit our Unranked Titles list and thank you for visiting, please come again

+1
blown away by what Pixar has done here. There animation is so far above anything out there right now, Dreamworks aways does a solid job but once you go back to seeing Pixar again you know why they are so far ahead of everyone else...


Tier 0 or higher if possible
The BEST PQ around right now...

768-Panny Plasma, 8-9 feet away 58' screen, Sony S1

I agree. I'm kind of torn between ranking Cars ahead of Ratatouille or not. They are visually different movies. Cars is a lot more vibrant which lends itself to the "wow" factor, but definitely strikes me as being a pure digital transfer (since it's animation). However Ratatouille is so lifelike at times, especially with the environments. There are moments where I think I was actually watching film with little creatures digitally placed in there. Make no mistake about it though, these two are the cream of the crop IMO (I was never much impressed with Corpse Bride). Both are great buys, and I think the sales figures that come out this Friday will show that.

Another vote for Ratatouille in Tier 0, I just don't know where i'd put it. On another note, I rented Vacancy this weekend (no idea why...oh yeah, Kate), and I wasn't overly impressed. However I think this has a lot to do with the visual style of the film. A lot more earth tones are used (greens and browns) along with the blacks, since it's an obviously "dark" movie. The shadow detail seemed good, but nothing close to a similarly styled movie in Black Snake Moan. In the movie's (Vacancy's) defense, it was filmed 95% at night, so it really never had a chance to show the range Black Snake Moan did.

I'd say this is a tier 2-ish type movie, but I wouldn't recommend it for placement just yet until a few other people chime in on it. I'm only speaking up because I notice it's still in the "unranked" section.

Brandon

Unless I missed it, I see Spiderman 1 and 3 on the list but not Spiderman 2?

Added, it must've been lost in the fray somewhere


Any comments on the placement of Rat and Cars? Perhaps we need a more objective way of placement for titles in Tier 0--like setting up a poll on a third party site or some other way of mathematically measuring input. I dunno...

I haven't seen Dave Matthews, but Cars definitely should be below Ratatouille, POTC, shouldn't be on top of it.

PS3 1080p/24 on a Mitsu 65731 at 8'.

Hopefully I will receive my order from Amazon today or tomorrow and can give my 2 cents shortly. Needless to say, I have high expectations!

There are so few Tier 0 titles, I think placement is irrelevant at this point in time...just my 2cents.

Thanks

I'd put 'Rat' and 'Cars' 1 and 2 respectively as far as best BD I have ever seen. I watched both movies with my jaw on the floor. Simply amazing.

I like how they have a voting system in the HD DVD forum for tier ranking. seems less prone to individual suggestion (as long as enough people vote )

Cars has a much more vibrant color palette, but only during the racing and flashback/imagination scenes. After Lightning gets stuck in Radiator Springs, the palette washes out a bit, but becomes more vibrant as Lightning becomes less selfish, leading up to the last race. John Lasseter does an excellent job of explaining the reason for this on the commentary track, which is BTW the best commentary track I've ever heard on a movie. Lots of insight, and an explanation of nearly every scene in the movie without any fluff. This is the commentary track that every other should be measured against.

Rat looked beautiful. I'd honestly have a hard time ranking one against the other, as both were visually stunning.

I've only recently started reading that thread, so I'm not sure of all the details over there. Here a person's equipment is taken into consideration when gauging their review. I think that's important.

Has anyone seen CETK?

I agree with most people both pixar movies are phenomenal but Ratattoulie is a bit more WOW to me than cars.

One movie i just picked up was 300. And I disagree with its placement, Unless your considering sound also in the factor, I thought the Film Grain (purposely or not purposely) was very detracting from such a great movie. I rate it below quite a few movies of mine.

I'll be receiving it from Netflix tomorrow so I'll try and post some impressions then.

Brandon

300 looks fantastic just the way it is.......grain and all.

Mosquito noise due to compression and grain look almost identical and there in lies the problem with the grain being ok or it is artistic argument. While grain maybe consistent throughout the movie, thankfully mosquito noise is not. There are some very clean looking BD's like Apocalypto and Casino Royale, but there is some intentional grain and even a bit of mosquito noise on both and it is hard to tell which is which.