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post #20731 of 21406
Also, in regards to a different kind of eye candy...Anna Kendrick, Brittany Snow, and Anna Camp make for great leads.
post #20732 of 21406
After Earth

Technically a really good transfer. But it's not always about just about technicality - for me this lacked the wow factor of Pacific Rim as I just found there to be too many interior shots which lacked fine detail and an often subdued contrast didn't keep me reeled in like it should have. That being said there is no doubt this will be a high ranker as the outdoor scenes were excellent with remarkable depth and detail at times.

So overall much better than I thought but just lacking that extra edge to hit the top tier sweet spot,

Tier 1.5
post #20733 of 21406
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I couldn't find this slightly older title in the tiers, and since it's become one of my favorite films (it's just FUN, okay?), I think it should be included:

Pitch Perfect

Tier Recommendation: 1.0

This is a stunning, nearly flawless presentation from start to finish. A few scenes lack complete detail, but it is clearly a well put-together Blu-ray transfer with bright colors and sharp details.

Inspired by your rating I checked this out today and agree with your placing, really nice disc.

Pitch Perfect

Tier 1
post #20734 of 21406
The Brides of Dracula (region-free UK Import)

recommendation: Tier 4.5*


A little secret about this UK disc released by Final Cut is that it's region-free. Considering the Hammer movies are taking forever to reach the States on Blu-ray, that is its best trait.

Sadly, the film transfer is not much to write home about. This BD only shows modest improvements in actual resolution and clarity over DVD. The most improvement is shown in color fidelity and saturation, though fleshtones are a tad warm. Licensed from Universal, the film elements are mostly free of damage aside from a couple of scratches and a small amount of dirt that pops up on the left edge of the frame, late in the movie. My biggest complaint is the evident sharpening applied to the transfer. The source elements do not appear to be from the negative but an inferior source such as an Interpositive or possibly a film print.

The print's heavy grain structure has mild problems with analog noise, likely due to the dated telecine. This release has been mildly controversial because the film is presented in a 2:1 aspect ratio. I'm not an expert on this particular film's true framing but the weight of the evidence indicates one closer to 1.85:1 at the very minimum.
post #20735 of 21406
The Conjuring

recommendation: Tier 1.75*


Cross The Amityville Horror with The Exorcist, and you get The Conjuring. Warner's big-budget scarefest arrives on Blu-ray right in time for Halloween.

The Arri Alexa digital camera handles the brunt of the photography, producing clean video with excellent clarity. Some minor ringing and aliasing, possibly due to VFX, pop up in a few select shots. Inky black levels permit fantastic shadow delineation and detail, a critical requirement for director James Wan's intended scares.

This is not quite demo quality, the presentation is largely flat and has limited tonality to its color palette.
post #20736 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Phantom Stranger View Post

The Conjuring

recommendation: Tier 1.75*


Cross The Amityville Horror with The Exorcist, and you get The Conjuring. Warner's big-budget scarefest arrives on Blu-ray right in time for Halloween.

The Arri Alexa digital camera handles the brunt of the photography, producing clean video with excellent clarity. Some minor ringing and aliasing, possibly due to VFX, pop up in a few select shots. Inky black levels permit fantastic shadow delineation and detail, a critical requirement for director James Wan's intended scares.

This is not quite demo quality, the presentation is largely flat and has limited tonality to its color palette.

I just picked up a copy at Best Buy this afternoon. Reviews for the movie itself have been very good, so how did you like it? If it's as good as they say, with excellent PQ to boot, I won't have to be concerned about buyer's remorse. wink.gif
post #20737 of 21406
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The Conjuring

recommendation: Tier 1.75*


Cross The Amityville Horror with The Exorcist, and you get The Conjuring. Warner's big-budget scarefest arrives on Blu-ray right in time for Halloween.

The Arri Alexa digital camera handles the brunt of the photography, producing clean video with excellent clarity. Some minor ringing and aliasing, possibly due to VFX, pop up in a few select shots. Inky black levels permit fantastic shadow delineation and detail, a critical requirement for director James Wan's intended scares.

This is not quite demo quality, the presentation is largely flat and has limited tonality to its color palette.

I just picked up a copy at Best Buy this afternoon. Reviews for the movie itself have been very good, so how did you like it? If it's as good as they say, with excellent PQ to boot, I won't have to be concerned about buyer's remorse. wink.gif
I believe I've given more in-depth answers to your question elsewhere.tongue.gif It's eminently watchable, particularly if one were previously unaware of Ed and Lorraine Warren's various exploits over the decades. There are some good frights in it like the opening setpiece. It does become a tad hokey at the climax. In a deviation from the norm, Hollywood didn't change many of the actual details from the historic case.
post #20738 of 21406
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I believe I've given more in-depth answers to your question elsewhere.tongue.gif It's eminently watchable, particularly if one were previously unaware of Ed and Lorraine Warren's various exploits over the decades. There are some good frights in it like the opening setpiece. It does become a tad hokey at the climax. In a deviation from the norm, Hollywood didn't change many of the actual details from the historic case.

Yes, I actually realized, after I posed the question to you, that you had written a full review on Do.Blu so I went and read it. Very good review, as always, and glad to read that it's very *watchable* (in my case I was NOT aware of Ed & Lorraine Warren's exploits).

From all that I've read, this movie doesn't resort to gratuitous violence, for which I am glad. Give me a good, psychological scare over the slasher trash any day and I'm a happy camper. cool.gif
post #20739 of 21406
Just got back from a viewing of Escape Plan. If what I saw in the theater translates to Bluray, this could be a Tier 0, especially with the facial detail from Arnold and Syl. Muted color palette, but very well executed.
post #20740 of 21406
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Just got back from a viewing of Escape Plan. If what I saw in the theater translates to Bluray, this could be a Tier 0, especially with the facial detail from Arnold and Syl. Muted color palette, but very well executed.
I'd guess that one hits Blu-ray sometime in January.

Dead Souls

recommendation: Tier 4.5
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This was an original movie made for the Chiller cable channel. For a new production released to Blu-ray in 2012, this is one ugly, cheap-looking film.

The 16mm film is erratically shot and lit, indicating a rushed shoot made on the very cheap. It appears they've tried to correct those mistakes in post by tinkering with the color timing of various scenes. The color correction is one of the most inconsistent and poorest jobs I've seen on the format, resulting in crushed black levels, washed-out contrast and a flat, dull appearance.
post #20741 of 21406
Hannibal: Season 1

Recommendation: Tier 1

This is one of the most detailed and richly contrasted TV series I've seen to date on Blu-ray. Incredibly fine detail resolution consistently throughout. Clothing texture is discernible. Black levels are fantastic 99% of the time, resolving detail even in the darkest sequences. Almost every shot in the show has jaw-dropping qualities. Not sure if the show was shot on film or hd cams, but the show has a constant amount of film grain, also.
post #20742 of 21406
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Hannibal: Season 1

Recommendation: Tier 1

This is one of the most detailed and richly contrasted TV series I've seen to date on Blu-ray. Incredibly fine detail resolution consistently throughout. Clothing texture is discernible. Black levels are fantastic 99% of the time, resolving detail even in the darkest sequences. Almost every shot in the show has jaw-dropping qualities. Not sure if the show was shot on film or hd cams, but the show has a constant amount of film grain, also.
I really thought it was the best new show from last season. The Blu-ray set also contains an episode which NBC refused to air. It has very stylish production design.

Bring Me The Head of the Machine Gun Woman (Region-locked UK Import)

recommendation: Tier 3.0*

A funny, violent exploitation film from South America, this digitally-shot production has serviceable video quality for a new release. British distributor Clear Vision has given it a solid presentation from a technical standpoint, though the digital cinematography's gamma is overly bright and washed out.
post #20743 of 21406
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I really thought it was the best new show from last season. The Blu-ray set also contains an episode which NBC refused to air. It has very stylish production design.

Most definitely. Mads Mikkelsen's portrayal of Hannibal thus far is chilling. I'd dare say even as good as Anthony Hopkins' Dr. Lecter. Pretty cool they included the unedited episodes also.
post #20744 of 21406
Se7en

Razor sharp (almost always), swallowed by deep, inky blacks, with an amazing shadow details at the same time. It's hard to believe Se7en is almost twenty years old.

Tier 1

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Man of Steel

I believe some poeple will not be happy how grainy Man of Steel is. It's sometimes less, and sometimes more intensive, but still pretty thick, which is pretty unusual for this type of big budget film. I think it could be resolved just a little bit better, since bitrate, as usual for Warner, is not impressive (it's pretty constant for most of the time, somewhere around 22Mbp/s), but it still looks amazing. Blacks are exactly as they should, and facial details simply screams from the screen. Beautiful.

Tier 0.75
post #20745 of 21406
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Man of Steel

I believe some poeple will not be happy how grainy Man of Steel is. It's sometimes less, and sometimes more intensive, but still pretty thick, which is pretty unusual for this type of big budget film. I think it could be resolved just a little bit better, since bitrate, as usual for Warner, is not impressive (it's pretty constant for most of the time, somewhere around 22Mbp/s), but it still looks amazing. Blacks are exactly as they should, and facial details simply screams from the screen. Beautiful.

Tier 0.75

So, I'm assuming you were able to watch a UK version, for the U.S. release of Man of Steel is on November 12.

Regarding grain, I LOVE it if it doesn't become noisy or obscure detail. The ideal for grain is to give it the look of film and to actually enhance details.
post #20746 of 21406
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So, I'm assuming you were able to watch a UK version, for the U.S. release of Man of Steel is on November 12.
I'm from Poland, and it was released here almost a week before official release set for October 25.
post #20747 of 21406
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I'm from Poland, and it was released here almost a week before official release set for October 25.

I had no idea you lived "across the pond." Lucky you for being able to get Blu-ray releases 2-3 weeks before we do! cool.gif
post #20748 of 21406
Excision

recommendation: Tier 1.0*

Absolutely flawless video, presented in a technically perfect manner. Some would likely classify this disc from Anchor Bay as being worthy of Tier 0. I can't go there but the detail is magnificent, revealing an incredible level of high-frequency content. Close-ups are jarring in how much they reveal of the actors' imperfections and wrinkles. Some of the more gruesome shots are probably too revealing, if you get my meaning.

Blood-C: The Complete Series

recommendation: Tier 1.75*


Funimation serves up this anime series produced by well-known animation house CLAMP. Some stray compression artifacts occasionally rear their head but the picture quality has clean line-art and a mildly flat color palette. However, black levels are quite nice and help the fluid animation pop on occasion.
post #20749 of 21406
No one else is watching horror BDs for Halloween?

Prince of Darkness

recommendation: Tier 3.25*


Easily one of Scream Factory's nicer transfers, the film elements appear to have survived in excellent condition. I am completely satisfied with the mostly film-like transfer, though some mild halos are visible. There is a touch of softness to certain shots, entirely due to the 1987 movie's original photography. The new color grading retains the deep black levels while allowing better color saturation and contrast. Its proper grain structure is retained and superbly handled by the AVC video encode.

I can't in good conscience place this higher due to limitations in its cinematography.
post #20750 of 21406
Just finished Fellowship of the Ring. What do you guys think of the color grading issue? I only noticed one scene that looked too green, and that was just a brief shot. I guess I'll add in my vote the it was, for me, with my 7 foot viewing distance on a 40" TV easily Tier 1.00
post #20751 of 21406
^^^^^

In regard to Phantom's question, I will be watching The Conjuring on Halloween night (by myself, with all the lights out in my man cave). I may just rent another one from the horror genre if time allows me to.
post #20752 of 21406
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Just finished Fellowship of the Ring. What do you guys think of the color grading issue? I only noticed one scene that looked too green, and that was just a brief shot. I guess I'll add in my vote the it was, for me, with my 7 foot viewing distance on a 40" TV easily Tier 1.00
Well, they definitely changed the color grading for the extended edition's transfer. I really don't have a dog in this fight, as it's a fantasy world and I think they had more leeway in meddling with it after the fact. The current rank for Fellowship of the Ring's theatrical cut is Tier 4! The newer extended edition is in Tier 1.75 at the moment. I could dig the individual scores up but I think some advocated for a higher placement. Your vote will probably bump it up a notch.
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^^^^^

In regard to Phantom's question, I will be watching The Conjuring on Halloween night (by myself, with all the lights out in my man cave). I may just rent another one from the horror genre if time allows me to.
It has the best audio mix I've heard in 2013. The surround mix is an integral part of watching it.
post #20753 of 21406
Yeah I watched the extended bluray from the amazing gold and black box set. From what I saw, colors were great, detail was preserved in all range of shots, facial detail was excellent, and blacks seemed to be excellent. An uncalibrated mid level LED set is obviously not the best to judge black levels, but from I saw they were there. There was not that much color overall, but what was there I thought was excellently represented. Also, this is the first time watching it on with an actual sound system, and boy is it a whole new movie! Every step of the troll, the balrog, when Frodo puts on the ring, all the oomph that I want is perfectly transcribed to the sound.

Just finished Two Towers as well, and I have the same opinion at Tier 1.00.
post #20754 of 21406
Monster's University

Tier Recommendation: Tier 0


You might not be surprised that this blu-ray is basically one of the best ones I've ever seen in my life. I immediately added this to my Amazon wish list (I got the blu from Netflix) because it left me speechless the entire movie with HOW GOOD IT LOOKS.

Seriously. This is what blu-ray is all about. The surround sound isn't too shabby either.
post #20755 of 21406
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Monster's University

Tier Recommendation: Tier 0


You might not be surprised that this blu-ray is basically one of the best ones I've ever seen in my life. I immediately added this to my Amazon wish list (I got the blu from Netflix) because it left me speechless the entire movie with HOW GOOD IT LOOKS.

Seriously. This is what blu-ray is all about. The surround sound isn't too shabby either.

Your words echo the sentiments of everyone else who has reviewed this on Cinema Squid's site. I get my copy tomorrow and I can hardly wait to see it!

http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/movies/reviews?release-key=ed0ad9d3-dcb3-44a6-b322-4a8a3b8ccb83&view=table
post #20756 of 21406
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Originally Posted by fredxr2d2 View Post

Monster's University

Tier Recommendation: Tier 0


You might not be surprised that this blu-ray is basically one of the best ones I've ever seen in my life. I immediately added this to my Amazon wish list (I got the blu from Netflix) because it left me speechless the entire movie with HOW GOOD IT LOOKS.

Seriously. This is what blu-ray is all about. The surround sound isn't too shabby either.

Great to hear! cool.gif I have this coming today and am going to watch it this afternoon.
post #20757 of 21406
I might get around to Monsters University this weekend. As always, one can more closely scrutinize these transfers in the 1080P screenshots linked below.

Embrace of the Vampire (1995)

recommendation: Tier 5*


Alyssa Milano's classic remains in standard definition. Anchor Bay has used a SD source and upscaled it to 1080P for this transfer. There is no reason to upgrade from your DVD of this masterpiece.


Embrace of the Vampire (2013)

recommendation: Tier 1.5*


A remake that has nothing to do with the original film, this movie has a vivid digital sheen with superior clarity. It would have been entirely pristine if not for one suspect scene.
post #20758 of 21406
The Last Exorcism Part 2

Terrible movie...good PQ!

Let me start out by praising the various scenes in New Orleans. There is one aerial view (in an early scene) of the city that is simply mesmerizing, with amazing details, color, and clarity. There are also many close-up shots of New Orleans streets and shops that offer up some excellent details, appreciable depth, vibrant colors, and very strong contrast. I would say what I'm describing in this short paragraph came close to Tier 0.

Much of the movie takes place indoors (in the Group Home and several other buildings) and these are somewhat inconsistent. Most shots treat us to fine details in general, along with excellent black levels and shadow details, but there are sporadic shots where softness creeps in and details suffer. Facial close-ups are demo-worthy all the way through, even those of the young female actresses. Flesh tones are also spot on.

Besides scenes with softness, there are a couple of shots where the black levels falter. They aren't gray, or crushed, but they are a bit flat. And with that lack of depth in black levels shadow details aren't what they should be.

All in all, this one was a looker, not reference quality mind you, but good enough to be afforded a place in Tier 1, albeit at the bottom.

Tier Recommendation: 1.75*

Viewed from 7.5' using the equipment listed below....
post #20759 of 21406
The Conjuring
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The Conjuring

recommendation: Tier 1.75*


Cross The Amityville Horror with The Exorcist, and you get The Conjuring. Warner's big-budget scarefest arrives on Blu-ray right in time for Halloween.

The Arri Alexa digital camera handles the brunt of the photography, producing clean video with excellent clarity. Some minor ringing and aliasing, possibly due to VFX, pop up in a few select shots. Inky black levels permit fantastic shadow delineation and detail, a critical requirement for director James Wan's intended scares.

This is not quite demo quality, the presentation is largely flat and has limited tonality to its color palette.

I'm going to "agree" and "disagree" with my colleague Phantom on this one. I agree with him that this produces "clean video with excellent clarity" and that there is "some minor ringing and aliasing." I also agree that there are "inky black levels" [that permit] "fantastic shadow delineation and detail." I also agree, to a certain extent, that this "is largely flat and has limited tonality to its color palette." So far, so good. But I do NOT agree that "this is not quite demo quality," for even though this clearly falls short of "reference quality," its virtues are strong enough to call it "demo quality." I say this because Tier 0 is reserved for "reference quality," whereas Tier 1 has "demo quality" material (see Page One of the Tier Rankings thread).

I will add that I was REALLY impressed with all of the outdoor scenes. You could see every detail in tree bark, leaves, foliage, etc. outside of the house of the Perron's family Rhode Island home. I was elated that the director chose to include MANY of these shots.

I was going to write more, but I'm tired, so let me end this short review by saying that Phantom and I are almost in total agreement, and this includes the placement recommendation...

Tier Recommendation: 1.75*

Viewed from 7.5' using the equipment listed below....
post #20760 of 21406
I forgot to mention that I really enjoyed The Conjuring. Compared to The Last Exorcism Part 2 it was Oscar-worthy! smile.gif
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