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post #211 of 21406
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Originally Posted by supermackem View Post

Im not one to question anyone who makes this tier as i really use it to gague the overall pq of a title, but weeds is very high for what it looked like on my tv. It was nice but top tier title i think not.

I have to agree. I just finished watching Weeds: Season 1 last night, and even my wife commented on the noisy picture. It's very inconsistent. Some of the shots are beautiful, but it's wildly inconsistent with compression noise, softness, and weird contrast issues. I guess shoving 4 hours of content on a BD-50 isn't such a good idea.

It certainly doesn't belong higher than titles like Ghostrider or Hellboy, which have a more polished and consistent image.
post #212 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Iggster View Post

How is that possible?

1. Many others agree with the placement lower tier 2 or higher tier 3 remember theirs a new rating system.
2. If something was wrong with my setup wouldn't other movies be blurry? IMO even GHOST RIDER puts NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM to shame.

I have watched NIGHT AT THE MUSEUM a good 6 times due to my crazy son but even he is bored of watching it now lol

YAWN......
guess what movie my son kept bugging to watch right now... night at the museum.

**edit** so it seems like the movie has a ton of digital noise. when i say a ton i mean it their but not very noticeable just that its their way to much
post #213 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Iggster View Post

YAWN......
guess what movie my son kept bugging to watch right now... night at the museum.

**edit** so it seems like the movie has a ton of digital noise. when i say a ton i mean it their but not very noticeable just that its their way to much


watch any movie 100 times and you will notice more flaws with each viewing.
post #214 of 21406
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Originally Posted by eXgo View Post

watch any movie 100 times and you will notice more flaws with each viewing.

lol true! even pirates DMC xylon posted screen shots with microblocking.
post #215 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Iggster View Post

YAWN......
guess what movie my son kept bugging to watch right now... night at the museum.

**edit** so it seems like the movie has a ton of digital noise. when i say a ton i mean it their but not very noticeable just that its their way to much

Time code please. I didn't see ANY digital noise, much less "tons" of it!
post #216 of 21406
From HDD:

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Indeed, the positives are many. Director of photography Guillermo Navarro ('Hellboy,' 'Zathura') finds a wonderful balance between dark and light, which give the movie a rich, classical feel. Contrast can be slightly hot, but not enough to ruin detail, and the transfer is nicely textured and often very three-dimensional. Colors really pop, especially the deep browns, oranges and reds, which are free from smearing. Blacks are spot-on, and grain is minimal.

He mentions EE (I didn't notice it) but does not mention anything about any "digital noise".
post #217 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

From HDD:



He mentions EE (I didn't notice it) but does not mention anything about any "digital noise".

and he doesn't give timestamps either.

he is just a creative writer. that's all.

throwing around big words.
post #218 of 21406
The "New" Tier thread? Gold/Silver/Bronze/etc... This thread looks like a direct ripoff of what used to be here just run by someone else. You guys should really take some hints from when the HD-DVD guys have developed in their forum for rating media.
post #219 of 21406
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Originally Posted by WirelessGuru View Post

The "New" Tier thread? Gold/Silver/Bronze/etc... This thread looks like a direct ripoff of what used to be here just run by someone else. You guys should really take some hints from when the HD-DVD guys have developed in their forum for rating media.

just not the polls those things have been sabotaged! com'on look at traffic and some others have more 5 ratings then atl and training and some other movies
post #220 of 21406
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Originally Posted by WirelessGuru View Post

The "New" Tier thread? Gold/Silver/Bronze/etc... This thread looks like a direct ripoff of what used to be here just run by someone else. You guys should really take some hints from when the HD-DVD guys have developed in their forum for rating media.


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Originally Posted by Iggster View Post

just not the polls those things have been sabotaged! com'on look at traffic and some others have more 5 ratings then atl and training and some other movies

Funny that even the OP of the new rating system for HD-DVD's realizes the weakness of the new system that Guru thinks is perfect.
post #221 of 21406
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Originally Posted by WirelessGuru View Post

The "New" Tier thread? Gold/Silver/Bronze/etc... This thread looks like a direct ripoff of what used to be here just run by someone else. You guys should really take some hints from when the HD-DVD guys have developed in their forum for rating media.

that's exactly what it is. a direct rip off run by someone else.

your power of observation is scary


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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Funny that even the OP of the new rating system for HD-DVD's realizes the weakness of the new system that Guru thinks is perfect.

^^^^^^^^^^^^LOL
post #222 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Funny that even the OP of the new rating system for HD-DVD's realizes the weakness of the new system that Guru thinks is perfect.

well i like it how it was before but it seems like allot of people like to complain just for the hell of it and not try to help and give their advice on trying to improve the thread.

Not that I dont like the polls but they should not dictate where a movie should go. Someone with enough computer skills can go on each movie and vote it a couple of times just to sabotage it. I like the avs polls but hate how it averages both when this thread and the other are more of eye candy threads rather then overall movie thread.
post #223 of 21406
apocalypto tier 0 no way. Don't get me wrong, its a good looking transfer, but it's not great to the extent of placing it in my top 3 reference titles.
post #224 of 21406
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Originally Posted by teckademic View Post

apocalypto tier 0 no way. Don't get me wrong, its a good looking transfer, but it's not great to the extent of placing it in my top 3 reference titles.

I agree.

And don't get me wrong either, because I do, in fact, think it is a fantastic looking title. Just not "Tier 0" good.
post #225 of 21406
Personally, I didn't think Night at the Museum looked that great. Maybe it's placed a bit too low, but it's definitely not up there.

Also Blood Diamond. I really expected this movie to look awful given the huge thread crapping on Warner. This baby, minus a few scenes and camera angles, looked REALLY good. I was very happy with how it looked and like where it is placed. Sound was unbelievable as well.
post #226 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

Funny that even the OP of the new rating system for HD-DVD's realizes the weakness of the new system that Guru thinks is perfect.

Ironic indeed

Anyways Apocalypto should be placed in the middle of tier 1. Here is how I would place it..

TIER 0

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
Corpse Bride
A Scanner Darkly

TIER 1


Chicken Little
Open Season
Crank
Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl
Happy Feet
The Wild
The Ant Bully
Apocalypto
Happily N'Ever After
Black Hawk Down
Kingdom of Heaven
post #227 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Schlotkins View Post

Personally, I didn't think Night at the Museum looked that great. Maybe it's placed a bit too low, but it's definitely not up there.

What display are you using?
post #228 of 21406
excellent work, i like this tier thread a lot more than the old one.
post #229 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

What display are you using?

Nothing special - Pioneer 5070 from 8 feet.
post #230 of 21406
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Originally Posted by youknowryan View Post

excellent work, i like this tier thread a lot more than the old one.

err, this tier thread appears to be an exact copy of the old one,tier titles and all
platinum,gold, copper etc
post #231 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Schlotkins View Post

Nothing special - Pioneer 5070 from 8 feet.

You are a bit far back from that size screen, but not unreasonably so. Anyway, what what it about Night at the Museum that prevented you from thinking it was very good (I still think it is one of the very best I have seen yet)?
post #232 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin View Post

You are a bit far back from that size screen, but not unreasonably so. Anyway, what what it about Night at the Museum that prevented you from thinking it was very good (I still think it is one of the very best I have seen yet)?

It's actually 7 1/2 feet if that makes a differences. I'm feeding from a PS3 at 1080p24.

In any case, let me pop this back in the next couple days just to see if my mind is rusty. I saw it back in March so perhaps it will look better know that I thought. Any scenes you'd recommend I hit to see the pop?

Thanks,
Chris
post #233 of 21406
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Originally Posted by Schlotkins View Post

It's actually 7 1/2 feet if that makes a differences. I'm feeding from a PS3 at 1080p24.

In any case, let me pop this back in the next couple days just to see if my mind is rusty. I saw it back in March so perhaps it will look better know that I thought. Any scenes you'd recommend I hit to see the pop?

Thanks,
Chris

Chris, honestly I wouldn't say there are any particular scenes to look at since I thought it was much more consistent than the majority of titles. But I seem to remember being impressed by the first scene that introduced us to the museum (as the camera goes inside).

The depth, three dimensionality, sharpness and colors were all excellent.
post #234 of 21406
Hey Austin,

The new Tier thread is looking good; but can I suggest a few changes in the top portion of the first post.

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A good example of this is the intentional softness of Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. While the picture of the film is very good and looks very film-like, it lacks depth. However, it still ranks in Tier 2 because it also lacks any video artifacts and the picture quality is very pristine.

Sky Captain is actually in Tier 3.

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Please visit Doby's handy guide to Blu-ray reviews here to compare this general list to that of published reviews.

I would also delete this part. Other than that, the list is looking good. I'm glad to see plenty of members participating.
post #235 of 21406
I would also vote for Apocalypto being moved. Open Season and Chicken Little had much more 3-D pop and appear more flawless. Apocalypto is too heavily-stylized for Tier 0 IMHO.
post #236 of 21406
I wish I could see 3D pop At least I seee a wonderful picture.
post #237 of 21406
Just watched Reign of Fire, went and checked out HDD's review just now. This transfer is murky with only so-so blacks and not so great shadow detail, with VERY noticeable edge enhancement in some scenes and at times borderline blooming whites. The print itself isn't even in great shape and I noticed blemishes on a few occasions. What the hell is Peter Bracke looking at sometimes? Certainly not the same film I am on some occasions. The audio is flawless with insane imaging, and he gave that part of the review 4 stars, while the video got 4 1/2! Honestly this is one of the worst BD transfers I've seen which is unusual for Disney, which IMO produces the best BD transfers of all studios. Put this one way down in the tiers imo.
post #238 of 21406
Whoa, move Weeds way down. Very inconsistent transfer, lots of grain in some episodes.

Oh, and I watched Primeval last night. Terrible movie, but good PQ. High tier 2
post #239 of 21406
WOW. POTC 2 has got to be the best BD I've viewed to date. Out of about 5. Just got me a player!
post #240 of 21406
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Originally Posted by eXgo View Post

I agree, I saw tons of 3d scenes as well throughout.

I'd like to have the setups that you guys do because my setup is surely 2d.
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